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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-03 at 22:40:49
Well Shape, OF TEH censored.gif COURSE IF THEY MADE A DISEASE FOR US IT WOULDNT KILL THEM.

If all your arguments are just so, they'd have completely different censored.gif ing biology.
And then, counter my goddamn argument that the disease would HAVE to be compatible enough with humanity to infect it that the body's immune systems would counter it somehow.

And now, tell me where the hell you heard that there are critters near the goddamn core. I want to see a website, a name of a book, SOMETHING. If your just saying "it hasn't been published" I'm not going to censored.gif ing believe you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-03 at 23:42:05
It has to have the qualities of life. I'm not sure what the scientific definition is, but it has to do things like maintain homeostasis, respond to stimuli, have a definite life span, metabolism, and have cells. I think all life on EARTH all share some common qualities, but maybe when we find other life on some other planet they might not need water. But that would mean their entire biology is different.

Yea, basically what Snake said:

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If all your arguments are just so, they'd have completely different  ing biology.
And then, counter my goddamn argument that the disease would HAVE to be compatible enough with humanity to infect it that the body's immune systems would counter it somehow.



And about life near the core, I did recently see on the discovery channel that whenever we drill deep, even as far as we can go we ALWAYS find some sort of life, TONS of it. They said there are many bacteria all the way down there. So who knows, if we keep digging deep and finding the life then who knows.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-07-03 at 23:43:53
Yes, their entire biology would have to be different. I'm not saying there are going to be any humans on another planet that don't need water. Read my edit ^ above.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-03 at 23:45:18
Aren't we carbon based lifeforms? Maybe other lifeforms are based on some other element. Don't know how though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-04 at 07:01:46
Well, yeah. Planet with a lot of carbon=carbon life forms. That why we're carbon based. There's a lot of carbon around. Likewise with some other elements I suppose.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-07-05 at 16:04:39
Nearly everything said is true. Ill add some of my own rantings if u dont mind..
1: DESTROYING NATURES ORDER
2: most are extremely ambitious (yes i am, and am personally proud of it, but its thought of as bad in most places)
3: creating soup to try to improve life-which it did for a while.. then powered up bacteria attack..
4:everything above
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-05 at 18:26:07
We are all going to die. It's inevitable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-07-06 at 14:48:07
Well ho didnt know that? Of course were all going to die.

And Silver-Dragon, your being too spacific. Like Destorying Natures Order isnt a quality of Mankind. That would be greed, because we need more and more space for us.

And the soup thing, I'll pretend you didnt say that... -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-06 at 21:50:14
I think every animal that exists is influenced by some type of greed. MIGHT be a few that don't have it, but I personally doubt it right now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-07-06 at 23:41:27
I hate the human race. They would sell their own kind out to make themselves look better. They would kill any amount of people to save their own life. They are all hypocrites and there is no pure good human. They are the only living thing that kill millions of their own kind. Thats right, I hate myself too. I hate all humans. They are just a bunch of worthless selfish garbage to me...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-07-06 at 23:52:12
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I think every animal that exists is influenced by some type of greed. MIGHT be a few that don't have it, but I personally doubt it right now.
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Animals dont have greed or any quality that humans have. They have instinct. Instinct tells in order to live you need to kill that chicken over there and eat it.

Or... A dog-house pet wouldnt kill his owner because he needs food.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-07-07 at 11:29:37
oops sorry, i mean soap, not soup sad.gif how could i sad.gif i know how it sounded.
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And Silver-Dragon, your being too spacific. Like Destorying Natures Order isnt a quality of Mankind. That would be greed, because we need more and more space for us.

I didnt say its a quality of mankind. Destroying the order of nature is what mankind does.
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I hate the human race. They would sell their own kind out to make themselves look better. They would kill any amount of people to save their own life. They are all hypocrites and there is no pure good human. They are the only living thing that kill millions of their own kind. Thats right, I hate myself too. I hate all humans. They are just a bunch of worthless selfish garbage to me...

Lol. U might notice there is no pure good dog either. Actually u might have discribed me, but i never killed someone, and i won't kill more then 10 people to save myself.. i think..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-07-08 at 16:53:55
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I hate the human race. They would sell their own kind out to make themselves look better. They would kill any amount of people to save their own life. They are all hypocrites and there is no pure good human. They are the only living thing that kill millions of their own kind. Thats right, I hate myself too. I hate all humans. They are just a bunch of worthless selfish garbage to me...

1. you're a human
2. well no shit we do that, it's effective
3. animals do similar things
4. you're a hypocrite also and you need to stop using the term "they".
5. if other animals were capable they would kill millions of their own kind too
6. if "they are all just a bunch of worthless selfish garbage to you" then you are a worthless selfish piece of garbage, meaning you hate your own actions, the actions you can change yourself.
7. wait a few years if you plan on doing something bad and you will not believe you even thought all this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-08 at 18:52:04
Ok I'm serious about this, if you hate the human race so much then just kill yourself, you just make the human race worse if you don't believe in it and just mope around all day because you think humans suck, you aren't contributing to society with it tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2005-07-08 at 22:47:11
Humans are just doing this to themselves and each other. If it weren't for all this racism, killing, greed, and whatever the hell else there is, this is what I would view as a perfect world. Some people think they have everything, but with all their selfishness, they don't think of those who have nothing but their families to love. Those are the people who are truly rich, not in possessions, but in the love they all share. Those who are rich in their possessions are sometimes secluded in the darkness of their cash, their belongings, except for those who truly care about them. Sometimes the rich in possession are just stuck up bastards who just think about themselves and don't give two asses about the needy. It is them who are ruining us, and the fact that more and more people want to be like them, that burglaries and mugging is happening. They want to also make it big like them, but are just being as bad as them. People should be grateful for what they have.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-09 at 22:43:06
The human race does suck in many ways indeed, but hey there's nothing we can do about it. I can just say "Ah the hell with this" and just kill myself but hey I believe there's some pleasures here in life that we just must not miss out on happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-07-09 at 23:30:08
Bah if you would rather be a mouse, would you? I'm thinking that humans aren't doing too bad off in the world. The only problem is politics and power.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-09 at 23:36:43
I think it is racism and hate and personality and characteristics distortions of people that are truly problems to the human race.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-07-10 at 04:09:00
I havent gotten the chance to read this entire thread, but I'd have to say that we are our own tools in every way. When you say you have "yourself", you are sorta refering to yourself as an object, and possibly, a tool. You can control yourself, so you are your own tool in a way. How you choose to use it defines who you are. Greed is desire gone bad, but it can be overcome and prevented. Humanity is a race that is neither good or evil, because that is not how either work. We started off trying to survive. Surivival is neither good or evil, it was a neutral state. So Humans never started out as either. Then suddenly, someone thought up good and evil. WTF? suddenly, killing someone else and taking all their shit so you will live on is bad? WHY!?!? But it was accepted. And good and evil were formed. Good = favored, Evil = unfavored. However, although the system was accepted, the same ideals and beliefs never will be, and thus, there is no singular version of good and evil. Why? Because there never was a good and evil to begin with. It was all just about survival... Humans are only what they make of themselves. Whether what that is is good or bad is an opinion, and therefore, can never be right or wrong.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stilth on 2005-07-10 at 08:39:51
QUOTE(Neiji @ Jul 6 2005, 07:41 PM)
I hate the human race. They would sell their own kind out to make themselves look better. They would kill any amount of people to save their own life. They are all hypocrites and there is no pure good human. They are the only living thing that kill millions of their own kind. Thats right, I hate myself too. I hate all humans. They are just a bunch of worthless selfish garbage to me...
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(Originally wrote a good post but its 5:40am and my neck is killing me, so I just laugh at the stupid person)

Btw: I am not greedy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-07-14 at 11:36:26
The reason we dont kill outselves, IS that were all pragmatic to some extent. We dont kill outselves because of what was posted in this topic already, and that were afraid of pain right before we die.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-14 at 15:34:47
... you can kill yourself without feeling pain, pain isn't a reason for people not killing themselves -.-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-07-17 at 17:14:34
No, humans, including myself have fear of the unknown, and death is one of the greatest unknowns.

The great unknowns:
God
Death
Taxes (Joking)
Tax law (More jokes...)
Boys are clueless about girls
and
Girls are oblivious to the manly bliss of being a shallow lazy bum with no hidden motives and no grudges that last for a decade, unless it includes girls.


Man, warhammer was right, fast paced music does mess with teh head...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-07-17 at 17:20:07
Oh theres always some pain..think about it.. shoot ureself in the head...split second of extreme pain..
Don't u wonder why the worlds homeless population is so high? they dont want to kill themselves..
I wouldnt either.. if i was like them.. theres always a chance of getting up in the world.
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but, most likely, theyll live their life in misery... i am so happy their pain isnt my pain..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-07-17 at 17:29:31
and that's humna, every person SHOULD feel guilt at being lucky, yet glad that it isn't them at the same time.


Also, I had a teacher who served in Vietnam, and he told us once that it's the shot that you don't hear that kills you. Which is true, because a bullet usualy goes faster than sound, you wouldn't possibly hear the shot that kills you. Also, I bet that bullet would go faster than the pain pulses from your nerves in your head.


No, humans fear death, they fear not existing, and they fear the unknown, why do you think people in the medieval times were so superstitious? Think if you were to bring a car to the middle ages. First reaction from the people?

"MAGIC THE EVIL WITCHES AND WARLOCKS BRING DARK MAGIC TO OUR LANDS! LET GRAB A LEG OFF OUR DEAD FATHER'S SKELETON AND USE THEM AS CLUBS TO KILL THEM!"

Fear, anger, etc. It's a fear of death,a nd the unknown, not pain.

Does a mother fear pain when delivering a child? Probably, but so doesn't exactly draw a gun and shoot her child, does she?

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