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And fear, of course, is a type of want.

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Fear is not a want. It is an instinct.
We instictively run away from a giant ball of fire hurrling towards us. We instictively fight back or run away when we are being chased or attacked by a lion.
We dont WANT to run away or fight back. We either do or dont. Its the "fight or flight" response. Every animal has it.
Just to clear this up before you bring it up (which I'm sure you would):
Our instinct isn't to WANT to live, our instinct is to NEED to live. We NEED to procreate and carry on the human race. If this wasn't true, we probably wouldn't be here today. It is hard-wired into our brain to survive no matter what. We cannot get rid of that. BUT, we can ignore it, like in such cases as suicide or saving someone's life (example: taking a bullet for the prez ). But there was no such thing as suicide in the animal kingdom way back when.

Fear is, basicaly, a want to avoid allowing a certain event to happen(or not happen).
Whether certain fears are due to instinct doesn't matter- instincts are just urges, urges are just wants.
If you take a cat and drop something heavy above it, it'll move.
It wants to avoid having that heavy thing land on it, even if it doesn't actualy form the thought into words.

I just explained this.
Our brain has hardwired us to survive no matter what. Its not that we want to, its that we need to. If you think about it, we all WANT to live, but if put in action (such as dropping something heavy above a cat) it will move because it needs to live (it doesn't think if it wants to live or not). Its not a choice as to weather or not it WANTS to live, it NEEDS to live. I believe humans are the only animal that actually has that choice whether to live or not. We can choose, but all humans have it hard wired into our brain to NEED to live, but we can ignore it.
Fear is an instinct, not a want. Instincts are not wants or urges , they are bits of information in every animal that tell it to survive and reproduce and give it good judgement.
But, some fear, such as humans feel such as at a scary movie is different. It is because we do not know whats going to happen, we cannot predeict the outcome. That also causes fear. I guess that could be related to Wanting to know the outcome, but it bassically stems from the same thing. needing to survive.
I will agree with you to some extent, only because fear is much too complicated for me or you to describe. Humans have intertwined fear with choice which makes a description much more tricky. For all animals other than humans though (except for maybe primates), fear is what I decribed.

You're overusing the word "need".
Humans commit suicide. Therefore, it's not a "need", just a stronger urge than other things.
The fact that a person can "lose" their "instincts" is a sign that instincts are in the mind, and thus are controllable.
If it's controllable, then it's part of you, your mind.
If someone drops a heavy object above your head, and you don't panic, then when you move, it was by choice.
If you really wanted to, you could have just stood there.
But you were motivated by a want that is the result of, or is an instinct.

there is always a bit of trueth in what you post. yes, instincts are controlable, but to a point. and your " you dont have to move bla bla bla..." yeah...who wouldnt move? i would. i would move liek lightning.

You don't have to though, that's the point. Therefore you don't "need" to, otherwise you would do it regardless of whether you wanted to or not.
Whether there's a limit to how controllable instincts are doesn't matter- they are controllable, and they are much more than possible to completely disregard.

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Nah, it's just that it makes absolutely no sense.

ADDITION:
After trying to parse it, I think you were trying to say:

"If you were motivated by an instinct, then it is an instinct."

Which is still retarded.

What I was trying to say is what I did say. I don't see how I could simplify it.

I just did correct and simplify it...

now now children......

oh, and what dose instinct have to do with power?!!? just a quick question.

Something about fear being the primary cause to power or something. And fear is a part of instinct. Personally, I thought this topic would've died 1 page ago. I thought wrong.

No, you tore it to pieces and completely changed the meaning into something completely different and that I believe to be untrue, unlike what I did say, which I do believe to be true.

Summary:
Power over humans is generally caused by want.
They want money, you have money, you can choose, together, to be legally abliged to give them money in return for their effort. You have power over them, because they do not want to break this deal.
They want for their wife to always be ignorant of the fact that, say, they're child beaters. You know they're child beaters. You make a deal, they give you money, you don't tell their wife they're child beaters.
Fear is a negative want. They fear the idea of their wife knowing.
Fear is a want for something not to happen or exist.
According to Dark, fear is, for the most part, caused by instinct, which, according to him, is something that is not part of ourselves.

I will try to resolve this, although you are all still entitled to your own opinions:
Fear is not a want. It can cause wants, but that's different.
To describe fear for humans is too hard, dont try. I will agree with you somewhat, and you might with me, but you dont have to.
Power can be a lot of things. It depends soley on your situation. If you have 1 million dollars and you are about to be driven off a cliff be a maniac you cannot buy your way out of it. Fears can be overcomed and freewill and choice change the aspect of power, also. It really doesn't matter if you have 1000 children. If someone finds them all and kills them then your family genes will die. Or, if nobody has the means to find all 1000 of your children you will survive and produce more offspring. It is all very complicated and this discussion could go on for a very long time. This is my last post, and last view of this topic
Also, I never said instinct wasn't part of ourselves. I said that it is hardwired into our brain. Instincively, if we dont think about wanting to live or not, we will decide to live. Push a man infront of a moving bus and he will try to duck down or run off the street, even if he was thinking about killing himself just 10 minutes ago. You have to think about killing yourself, you have to want to kill yourself, you dont think when you are saving your life by instinct.

Well, if you're willing to drop it, then I am too, and will allow you to have the last word.

Though...
That means that I don't really have much to say in this topic anymore then...
>_>

its great that you understand the human brain so well......but what dose that have to do with power?

The brain is basicaly the center of thought in humans, and fear is an emotion, which is very strongly tied with thought.

My idea of power is more minerals.

Or... All your base are belong to us!

so, power comes from the brain.......but where dose the brain get it?

Where does it come from?
Whatever it is that gets turned into power. Fear, want(which I say are both the same thing)... umm... well, not much else.

ok, what about all of the natural leaders? where do they get it, and why do people fallow. what do they have that makes everyone want to fallow them, in to death most of the time. what gives them that.....whatever they have?

As I said before, a combination of fear and want.
They know what peoples' fears are, they know what peoples', they know how to exagerate them and make them care more about them, they exploit that.
Basicaly, their power comes from being geniuses of the mind.