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Staredit Network -> Concepts -> Oddites of the "Triggers O' God"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-05 at 05:07:47
good question, cuz u could have a map that says, BURN IN HELL, MACS SUCk...and then execute the trigger, LOL
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-08-05 at 07:57:12
Well depends on if its when it tries to run the trigger, or it checks the condition to see if its true. I think the latter is most likely the case so it'll just freeze on entry into the game. [after the briefing]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-08-05 at 17:48:34
They freeze when the condition/action runs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SacredElf on 2005-08-05 at 20:54:20
Poor macs users closedeyes.gif

i have found(think so) when u change a ghost air weapon and u have a wraith in the map wraith change it also
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-08-06 at 06:43:12
Likely because it uses the same memory offset?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-06 at 09:38:04
Weapon Affect! When you change a Unit, you affect 3 others Units Weapon
-Kerrigan Affect Hero Goliath and Hero Vulture
-Siege Tank(siege mode) affect Hyperion and Norad 2

Tech :censored:ed up!
It seems that when you change weapon some of the Tech Screwed up. You can research them but they'll stay like you didn't (mostly units reactor, Long range Bullet marine, Goliath Boosted missile) Maybe more.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-08-06 at 10:53:06
I think some of those "Techs" you mentioned are upgrades...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-08-09 at 14:15:37
Any other "oddities" (not exactly glitches but close) you guys have found?

Thanks for getting back on topic sessasse. happy.gif

PS (I was in Maui on a horrible TV internet thing when i did Post #23.. yay maui!! biggrin.gif)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yoni45 on 2005-08-09 at 19:09:33
QUOTE(SacredElf @ Aug 5 2005, 06:54 PM)
Poor macs users  closedeyes.gif

i have found(think so) when u change a ghost air weapon and u have a wraith in the map wraith change it also
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QUOTE(Sessasse @ Aug 6 2005, 07:38 AM)
Weapon Affect! When you change a Unit, you affect 3 others Units Weapon
-Kerrigan Affect Hero Goliath and Hero Vulture
-Siege Tank(siege mode) affect Hyperion and Norad 2

Tech :censored:ed up!
It seems that when you change weapon some of the Tech Screwed up. You can research them but they'll stay like you didn't (mostly units reactor, Long range Bullet marine, Goliath Boosted missile) Maybe more.
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those probably arent bugs but the fact ur setting the values, thereby nulling the values affecting the rest of the units...

For example, say u have unit -29321 deaths for P1, its a 4 byte value, as in

XX XX XX XX

when it comes to weapons, these are actually used, so say for example

3F D2 12 6A

now u wanna change the 3F to set it to seomthing else such as 02, so u say SetDeaths(P1, SetTo, -29321, 2);

but what this ends up doing is setting the whole 4 byte value to

02 00 00 00

so ur changing the weapons of the units that had weapons D2, 12, and 6A, thats why u want to use Add or Subtract in these cases, (although since theres an existing value, u'll have to do some quick math for that), so as not to affect the other units and their weapons...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-09 at 22:59:21
There are similer problems with modding. You should have the exact same problems if you were a sloppy modder. I think that before someone sets out to make a map with EUD trigs, they should consult modders to make sure they cover all their bases.

ADDITION:
Oh ya, and it's important to know when to set, and when to add.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-08-10 at 01:57:26
YOu add when you know what value the byte is already at. So you know to add a certain amount to the byte to get the outcome you want. Setting is for when you dont know the value or are just too lazy to fnd out. It changes every byte in the long but its a lot eaier to do tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carlsagan43 on 2005-08-10 at 18:11:01
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The mac code is not more "polished", only different than the PC code. It is not a "variation" of the PC code; it is whole another language. Because of this, programmers and hackers alike usually do not make programs for the mac, since then they have to learn both languages.


I saw an article that said macs were switching over to an intel processor. Maybe that might give them a chance.
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