QUOTE(devilesk @ Aug 7 2005, 03:49 PM)
Why exactly do replays get corrupted because of a patch?
Seems to me the only way this is affecting melee is because due to patching the replays get corrupted, but I don't understand why?
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Everything being said is answered if you read my above posts.
I don't see an answer, is Blizzard unable to make it so that new patches don't corrupt replays? Would it be possible to fix a replay or something to make it be able to run in a new patch?
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Ihatett Stop it, you're full of Sh*t. You mean nothing and no One like your point. Now leave it and Mod, close this thread before i go on rampage on every ass on Sen
This isn't an intelligent argument anymore with posts like that.
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Your argument's are weak, and the millions of "melee" players don't care what you have to say. I will work my ass off to ensure that legal action is brought against him if he continues.
This is why I don't like people in America. They don't care what the other side of an argument is saying. They simply KNOW they are right and won't debate it properly.
And aren't these TRIGGERS were dealing with, which are not entirely useful in melee maps. The patches are all thats really hurting melee. Although I could be wrong because I do not play melee.
QUOTE(UED77 @ Aug 7 2005, 02:50 PM)
If you wish to watch earlier replays, nothing prevents you from installing multiple versions of Starcraft, and patching them to different versions. That way, you can watch all the replays you wish. There. Doesn't affect you anymore, does it?
UED77
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We should be forced to go to a website and install a 9 MB patch just to watch a replay. It's more than hectic, plus you have to find out which patch the replay was played on.
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Aug 7 2005, 02:57 PM)
We should be forced to go to a website and install a 9 MB patch just to watch a replay. It's more than hectic, plus you have to find out which patch the replay was played on.
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And there is a program (bwchart) that makes doing just that insanely easy.
QUOTE(chuOS @ Aug 7 2005, 02:52 PM)
What? There isn't even a million total Starcraft players! You can try as hard as you like, but Blizzard can't and most likely wouldn't do anything to him.
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There were 150,000 thousand people at that event alone; there are easily over 1 million players world wide.
And yes, he flagrantly trashes the EULA, so Blizzard has every right to do whatever they want to him.
UED77, just go away. I have explained in fairly good detail how his numerous actions have hurt "melee", directly and indirectly.
I'm not going to stay here arguing against you guys. Since this is a UMS site, you guys don't care about the real game; all you care about is the relatively-insignificant UMS. There are too many of you here for me to argue against. I've stated my points, whether you want to read them or not (they are mainly on the fist page in various replies), and I have stated what I will do if this continues.
Have a nice day.Ihatett, at this point, is just dodging ponts. Tell me, how does
"No, he isn't. Those people don't release the exploits to the general public like he does. They work with the companies in fixing it."
Or
"Absolutely dead wrong.
Finding and release game-exploits to the general public, is wesmic and I mentioned, as much more damaging to the gargantuan number of melee players than it is to the insignificant number of UMS players."
Or
"UED77, your first point has been adressed, and your point about the replays is dead wrong. Try watching some 1.12 replays, buddy. In fact, 1.12 corrupted replays 1.11 replays, and it contained no balance changes.."
Reply to:
"If you wish to watch earlier replays, nothing prevents you from installing multiple versions of Starcraft, and patching them to different versions. That way, you can watch all the replays you wish. There. Doesn't affect you anymore, does it?
UED77"?
Mr. ihatett? once again, you don't even have a point to argue here, you just have some vendetta against DK.About your "Oh he's telling everyone exploits", oh yeah, they knew about those exploits before, you ass, all that DK has really done is compile lists of glitches, exploits, and adverse effects. It's like saying making a list of diseases helps spread diseases. I see that before you can be pinned down and broken, you're going to run.
QUOTE(Rantent @ Aug 7 2005, 02:56 PM)
This is why I don't like people in America. They don't care what the other side of an argument is saying. They simply KNOW they are right and won't debate it properly.
And aren't these TRIGGERS were dealing with, which are not entirely useful in melee maps. The patches are all thats really hurting melee. Although I could be wrong because I do not play melee.
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DK's last discovery nearly brought online melee to a crashing end, for all we know, this could just be a gateway to possible melee modifications.
Wesmic, tell me, so he's going to soon discover how you run triggers in melee? Until that happens, you're full of bull. Oh he almost did something that's impossible.
"all you care about is the relatively-insignificant UMS. There are too many of you "
Your full Of sh*t, shut up, take your pills, and hope you die soon.
If someone searched through SC's memory and understood everything about it then I'm sure eventually someone would find a really bad way to exploit something. Really the only thing DK has done was spread the news of this new discovery on SEN.
You skipped about half of my posts. I would appreciate it if you didn't do that.
I'm leaving this thread now. I've said what I needed to say.
Please quote the part of the EULA he is violating. I read it all myself and I'm not sure.
Yeah, I know how horrible it is for UMS to become extremely customizable, I mean, UMS isn't about customization, it's about observer melee maps!. The patch you blams keep ranting on about hasn't been confirmed by Blizzard, who are, most likely, not even aware of the existence of the EUD triggers. I think they have better things to do then surf UMS Starcraft sites.
Yeah Devil you make think of something. If people Use thoses triggers for bad things, it's not DK responsability. It's those kidz which can't deal with this "Power" Anyway, you know How B.net Is, Almost any of SEN map have never been popular on B.net...
QUOTE(ihatett @ Aug 7 2005, 04:03 PM)
You skipped about half of my posts. I would appreciate it if you didn't do that.
I'm leaving this thread now. I've said what I needed to say.
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I haven't skipped your posts, yet I'm sure you've skipped mine.
Tell me how replays get corrupted due to a new patch, if they don't contain anything that was fixed in the new patch, such as a replay containing mutamorph, which would corrupt a replay.
Also don't think it's right you create such a topic, then just leave.
hey wilhelm. BLizzard did the first UMS Map, Scv Race, Nexus destroy, King Of hill. Those Melee Observation?
So, we have an interest in UMS.. big deal, no need to go off calling us "insignificant". For god sakes, starcraft melee is insignificant compared to what goes on around the world this very moment. Get a life and don't go around throwing lawsuits at someone just because he discovered something.
QUOTE(ihatett @ Aug 7 2005, 02:59 PM)
There were 150,000 thousand people at that event alone; there are easily over 1 million players world wide.
And yes, he flagrantly trashes the EULA, so Blizzard has every right to do whatever they want to him.
UED77, just go away. I have explained in fairly good detail how his numerous actions have hurt "melee", directly and indirectly.
I'm not going to stay here arguing against you guys. Since this is a UMS site, you guys don't care about the real game; all you care about is the relatively-insignificant UMS. There are too many of you for me to argue against. I've stated my points, whether you want to read them or not (they are mainly on the fist page in various replies), and I have stated what I will do if this continues.
Have a nice day.
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Watching and Playing the game are easily two different things. In Korea gaming it more of a sport like in the US and a lot of people who watch is don't even play the games. Though I wouldn't at all be surprised if most of the people who watch it in Korea do play it.
And 150,000? Where did you get that number because the largest stadiums in the world don't even hold 150,000. And all I see are lawnchairs on a small beach.
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Yeah Devil you make think of something. If people Use thoses triggers for bad things, it's not DK responsability. It's those kidz which can't deal with this "Power" Anyway, you know How B.net Is, Almost any of SEN map have never been popular on B.net...
Truth.
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Aug 7 2005, 03:03 PM)
Please quote the part of the EULA he is violating. I read it all myself and I'm not sure.
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Go to the Uberation 2.0.0.6. news post, he broke 5 of their restrictions, Wilhelm, Blizzard is aware of this, new patch might come any day
devilesk, if Blizzard supported replays from previous patches than the new patches would be twice the size they already are.
wilhelm, DK's already modified the trigger system, he's already discovered modding in melee, who says he can't do it again?
I was being sarcastic about the observer maps, but it seems to be what they think of as ideal UMS. Wesmic, until THEY say something, there is not much of a reason to believe there is a patch coming 'any day now". Maybe if there's enough sites ranting on about it, but really, you're bi-tching about an easily solved problem: Download the old patch and watch them in single player. So, until I see some evidence to the contrary, this is all about some vendetta against DK, which has no place on the forums.
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Aug 7 2005, 04:09 PM)
Go to the Uberation 2.0.0.6. news post, he broke 5 of their restrictions, Wilhelm, Blizzard is aware of this, new patch might come any day
devilesk, if Blizzard supported replays from previous patches than the new patches would be twice the size they already are.
wilhelm, DK's already modified the trigger system, he's already discovered modding in melee, who says he can't do it again?
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Seems like Blizzard should just make their next patch compatible with replays created in past patches
The 150,000 number was from the magazine reporting the event. Stop acting like you know things when you don't.
Also, while not everyone there plays all the time, it's clear that at least 95% of them has played. With all the players that didn't go to that single event in Korea, in addition to the other players world wide, there are easily over one million players... I wouldn't be suprised if there were over two million.
I'm closing this topic (I forgot I could), so only mods can reply. There is no use anymore for it being open; you're just having an ignore-my-posts-and-bash-Starcraft fest.
He's been warned.
Wesmic, I'd believe that it's possible to run triggers in melee when you show me some real proof, not just "oh he did this once so he must be able to do this now".
Wesmic said that there was once a program that uncorrupts replays to make them playable in a new patch, yet it was never recreated for the patch following it. Someone should recreate or make a program that does it, it would be easier to use than bwchart and installing an old patch