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That statement refutes what Swap posted (With proof, mind you) directly. So either show some proof or at least reason with common sense.

As for the bible:


http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Boo...&p=1022662#curr

It's a pretty good read. (I'd suggest reading the excerpts from it in the link. It reads just like it.

I think its crap. Thats my opinion.

I believe Jesus existed, but was not the Son of god nor did he die for our sins. If he died for our sins on the cross, what about the guy next to him on the cross who was ALSO dying?

There were 3 people next to him dying. Since they weren't the son of God they couldn't have taken our sins. Whenever I tried to think of this in a bible study I wondered if by saying this the bible and priests throughout the ages ment that Jesus now resides within hell. I have never gotten a straight answer.

I believe the Bible is pretty stupid, like Christianity. Then again, that's an opinion, so I suppose I shouldn't state it.

Those bible codes are crap. Somone found one reading: The bible code is a snake-oil hoax, or something along those lines. You can find patterns very easily in anything of sufficicient ize. These patterns are meaningless.

The only thing about this is that it's only possible to predict the past. There are simply too many phrases to predict the future. (Same reason Moby blam worked.) I want someone to use the entire lord of the rings and see if they find anything.

What the hell? Why was I shot down for saying I think of the Bible as I do Greek Mythology?

That's all it is. The Greeks beleived that, it was their religion. Stories, is all they were, the same sort of stories in the Bible. What I mean when I say that is that I think of them as stories, and nothing more. I do no worship nor beleive (except possibly metephorically) in any of the stories. I treat the Bible as you treat Greek Mythology, as stories.

I wasn't disagreeing with him at all. It makes sence that once it was written down that it would have been preserved. But lets think about who wrote those scripts. The hebrew culture was, early on, at a crossroads for many cultures. They met the egyptians early on, who are known to have had a developed religion at the time also. One of these cultures was Babylon, who is recorded for enslaving them for some time. (Under Sargon) They were enslaved because of one original belief, that there was only one god. Back then the custom was that when you moved into a different kingdom you accepted the new gods that were there. Judaism allows only one god no matter where you were. So babylon enslaved them for not changing their beliefs. Here they would have been exposed to many religious teachings, including that of Zoroaster. (Although that's debatable, his veiws were incorporated into the religions of the area at that time.) At around this time is when the first biblical wirtten scripts (Genisis only) come from. After being held for some time, they were asked to leave, and went through the first Diaspora. (Dispersal) Spreading their ideals to the rest of the world.
Your talking about this, I'm talking about before it would have been recorded.

To disprove Bible Code, some guy did it to Moby blam and found the same sort of stuff...

Bible Is a Book full of Bullshiz.
The religion Itself Is a Big Bullshiz.
God Is bullshiz.



God was created to explain things that no one Knew.

Now UFO are our "new" god, The have been created to explain fiew things.

I hate UFO's. Women come and say 'The Aliens impregnated me' to cover up that they went out and farked some drunk illegitimate child out in the middle of nowhere.

What the hell would UFO's explain?

Dunno. Maybe Roswell Accident? Strange light in the sky? Corn Flakes Circle... (herm..corn flakes?)
It's like Angels, what do they explain?

This is what is explains. farking rednecks......

Adam And Eve was an expression in the Bible, along with many other stories.

I, do not believe in it, though.

You call that a religion?
A god?

I don't think so!

Scientology?
Dunno, just throwing that out there.

Scientology's a joke. Beliveing that aliens came to earth ages ago just to brainwash us into believing in jesus. Just a joke.

Yeah. That's bull shiz.

Aliens did come here though. The 50s. ^_^

Sure they did. They came billions of lightyears just to sit in space and watch us quarrel duing the Cold War...

I doubt it was aliens. They would have done something. Made contact, blown the shiz out of us, etc.

I'm sure aliens have come here, or at least are out there. But thats not part of this topic.

- Thats what my dad always says.

Personally, I dont like any religion. Religion is for the weak, and who have fear of death. Death is nothing to be feared. It is a release from pain and from our cumbersome and fleshy bodies. To die is to gain infinte knowelage and wisdom.
To die is to become God.

Religion... pathectic...

This is the most hypocritical post I've ever seen.

Death is to gain infinate wisdom and knowledge... That's religion. If you do not believe in religion than there is NO life after death, so you can't have any wisdom. Your conscienceness just ceases to exist.




UFO stands for unidetified flying object. So in practice an angel could be classified a UFO.

Thats just what I believe what happens when you die. Its not my relgion.

Because you dont have a relgion doesn't mean theres no life after death, and religion doesn't nessisarily have anything to do with life after death. This means you can believe whatever you want and having that not relate to your relgion (or have it relate to it).

Example:
"I believe you are on crack. GEE-HAD!!"

If you gain infinite power and knowledge from death, why dont you go kill yourself, meanie, and quit the bull shiz.

Anyways, Scientology was actually invented as a means of making money. If you'd notice, the founder of Scientology is a millionaire.

The Bible is not meant to be taken literally. This is true. Adam and Eve lived to 900 years old. Untrue. Sins are the result of free will. God gives us free will. This is true. God made the universe, and made rules for it, and he follows those rules, which is why God will not just end the world as he feels like it. He plays by the rules. Definitely far better than anyone else can.

Now I'm no hardcore religious guy, partially because Religion isn't a system of belief, but a moral system, to me. As far as I've concerned myself, I haven't broken the Ten commandments, but nor do I follow them to the letter. I even go to a Catholic School (and before you say my school sucks, we are number 2 overall in the sports program in the country according to Sports Illustrated, so F*** OFF before you get a bunch of 18 year old linebackers ready to break your spine).

The Bible IS FICTION. The Bible is also NON-FICTION. The history stories did occur, and the prophetic and Torah (the first five books, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy), are all not true, but rather they reveal a truth of human existence. For example, when the people wander for forty years in the desert, it shows that when people complain, bad stuff always happens. When people turn away from God, they turn to other God, in folly (most of the time), then God withholds his blessing, and the people complain some more, until those who actually ARE faithful to God, rescue the people though Divine Intervention. The Old Testament prophecies are a series of parodies, and actual prophecies, not only of the time in when they were written (2k BC, 500BC, 617BC, and 40 AD and on, respectively). The morals and Law found in the first five books were MAJOR moral and ethical improvements over the time in which it was written. If you read the Bible, there are hundred, upon thousands of inconsistencies. The Bible is not meant literally. Nor is it meant to be believed to the letter; but known for what it means.

This is the Jewish system. 39 books that are the Tanakh, that define their lives and morals. Some events are true, some are true, but unexplainable (Ten plagues of Egypt, the first nine are explainable through natural phenomena, the tenth is Divine). Remeber that the moral improvements may seem barbaric some of them, but some necessary; e.g. unlawful or incestuous marriage. No one has to tell you today that you can't marry your sister, but several thousand years ago, this was common practice.

The Christian system believes that Jesus is the fulfillment of the old prophecy. He rescues the world, and ends the power of a tyrant, while saving those who believe in him, and at Perousia (End of the World), he saves ALL of the world.

The most controversial of the Christian Scriptures is the book of Revelations written by (who we think is) John the Beloved Apostle. It is not an actual amalgamation of the end of the world, it was a political outcry against Nero and Domitian, the two WORST Christian persecuters in Roman emperor history.

Also from this is 666: the hour of the beast. In Jewish systems, each name has a numerical value, and Domitians happened to equal 666. If per se, it were 317, we would be saying "317 is sinful". We don't know why we say it, we just do. 666 was applies to many people throughout history, some whom people see as great people in history. Martin Luther King was attached to the number 666 (believe it or not, it was a major deal 40 years ago), or the emperor Constantine. They were thought to be agents of the Devil, which is why 666 is a sign of the devil.

And as for a system of the afterlife, only the Christians have a defined afterlife, the Jews do not. They simply believe in a dumbed down version of Christian Purgatory. As for death, it is a part of life (ha ha, yeah ironic, isn't it?)

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In conclusion, it is the truth, but not for what we assume we can take it for. It is false, but not in the sense that it is ALL false. There is historical accuracy. The Exodus did happen. Just not in the way it was told.

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Death is not to gain infinite anything. It only allows you to UNDERSTAND whats going on. It's like seeing the face of God, if you can comprehend it, you will die, because you can understand it. No one ever said St. Peter is now the wisest person in the universe. Tell me where it says that. Tell me where in the Bible that death is wisdom. and maybe I'll stop thinking you don't know anything about the Bible. You got two things working against you-murder (overzealous passion, cruelty and cold-bloodedness, causes death), and suicide (deprivation of hope, causes of death). If you can prove murder and suicide are wisdom, then I'll believe you know more than me. Ohh, and by the way, ALL reasons for murder and suicide are selfish. Good luck. Religion does not say death is anything. It's just death. No bodily existence. If you are fortunate enough to be Hindu or Buddhist (like me), then you get to go through life all over again.

Something I remebered when thinknig about the bible a while back...

Consider the following.

A day is not exactly 24 hours long, it's more like 23, 56, and 4 seconds.
Accumulated this time measne we are 6 years in the future. (Starting at when the ano domini callender begins.) Yet since it was falsly started (6 years too ealry.) this means that right about now our time is synchronized with something we could have known nothing about at the time. In a few decades we'll start inadvertently living in the future again though.