Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-11-13 at 23:19:20
Yes but it might not of been ALL of the peoples choice. just like the american revolution some people wanted to stay loyal to england. when the russian czars were overthrown the people thought that communism would be a good thing but generations later they regretted it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-14 at 01:21:07
You all should understand that no communist country today is truly communist. There isn't supposed to be a dictator; he's supposed to step down when the country is stable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-11-14 at 09:56:32
Communism is a great idea and would work wonderfully if not for one factor: Humans.
We are stupid greedy primates, and we ruin everything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-14 at 16:19:37
Conver the entire human population to reptiles! So that's the answer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Shattered_moose on 2005-11-14 at 19:03:12
In theory it would work, in practice we humans are far too greedy to ever create such a society.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2005-11-14 at 19:44:14
Communism is a good idea, so long as it is paired with democracy, and limited in size. I think that all governments are better when the county they govern is state-size or smaller.
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In theory it would work, in practice we humans are far too greedy to ever create such a society.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-11-14 at 20:14:56
Let's overtake luxumbourg and turn it into a communist society, then we can see if it will truely work on small scale.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by re_casper on 2005-11-14 at 20:45:49
i say no but the idea of communism is great... like fair amount of land to all sounds nice and all. The reason why i say no is because that communism gives the dictator a lot of power. He is very near a king. The dictator basicly runs the country... Communism isnt bad if you can use it correctly... however,
(off topic) i think democracy is a lot better than communism.
Communism may not be very bad, Sometimes useful like in the fuedal era. But... slavery is kinda off... There are both good and bad for Communism
(off topic) i think democracy is a lot better than communism.
Communism may not be very bad, Sometimes useful like in the fuedal era. But... slavery is kinda off... There are both good and bad for Communism
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-14 at 22:47:39
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You all should understand that no communist country today is truly communist. There isn't supposed to be a dictator; he's supposed to step down when the country is stable.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Killa_04 on 2005-11-14 at 22:57:08
Well, I think communism if it was setup democraticaly it'd be a good idea. They'd all vote for how they felt and they'd all get relatively the same wages. Stalin just made communism look bad because he was a dictator. Socialism to me is superior and anything is better than capitalism. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2005-11-15 at 07:30:28
QUOTE(Shadow-Killa_04 @ Nov 14 2005, 10:57 PM)
Well, I think communism if it was setup democraticaly it'd be a good idea. They'd all vote for how they felt and they'd all get relatively the same wages. Stalin just made communism look bad because he was a dictator. Socialism to me is superior and anything is better than capitalism.
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Yes, Very true. Many people take Stalin as an example to claim that Socialism/Communism is no good
.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-11-15 at 18:52:08
i have a very important question.... why did america want to erradicate communism?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-15 at 19:49:59
We were afraid of Communist Russia and their nuclear weapons and the didn't really like us so we decided to have the whole commie scare. Stupid bigots. Seen the movie Good Night and Good Luck? Some great quotes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-11-16 at 21:24:34
QUOTE(Aikanaro @ Nov 13 2005, 01:29 PM)
I don't Understand any of you, Capitalism does not work properly either. In Communism, It favors the majority. In Capitalism, It favours the minority. When Communism is applied, It is done by the people of the country. Thus works very well, everyone is knowledgable of what Mess they have gotten out of, nothing is taken granted. What is this attitude of "not good In reality"? Care to explain why? Oh I know you all insist upon the word "Greed", But thats no near from being true. I'd like examples of such a thing happening. Also, Capitalism is actually *BASED* on greed. Capitalism, itself in a sense means, The Capital, Like The Center, one's self. While Communism, has actually the word community in it as a root word.
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Capitalism being based on greed is how it's economy works. It's about people competing against one another for more money. If you want to care about the majority, keep the economy as elastic as you can. You see, greed HELPS capitalism. It just gets out of hand when monopolies come into play. And that's when you got to put your foot down and start laying down the law.
Communism on the other hand, isn't that bad. It can work. But the major problem with it, is that greed HURTS the country. People are not naturally worried about other people. Especially not their country as a whole; Communism has no invisible hand.
Me personally, I'm in between capitalism and socialism.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-11-17 at 20:46:52
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Communism as an idea? Great!
Communism as a reality? No way.
Communism as a reality? No way.
All that I want to say, has been said.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-18 at 17:22:30
Communism would work if not for one thing: People like to own things.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 00cnr on 2005-11-19 at 16:20:10
Yes, in a perfect world every nation should be Communistic, the system would work flawlessly nad there would be no poverty. Unforchantly we don't live in a perfect world and Communism doesn't work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-11-19 at 20:39:41
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 14 2005, 12:21 AM)
You all should understand that no communist country today is truly communist. There isn't supposed to be a dictator; he's supposed to step down when the country is stable.
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What about North Korea? People say North Korea is still truly a communist country
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2005-11-19 at 21:44:45
North Korea is a totalitarian state. If you disobey or anger Kim Jong Il you will most likely be 1) Locked up, 2) Killed, or 3) Locked up and then killed.
It is in no way a communist country.
It is in no way a communist country.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-19 at 23:53:25
I'd also like to add that Utopia literally means 'no place', just to get that out there, forgot to put in previous post, and no one would see if I just edited.
People don't like doing things for no reward, even if it's just a good pat on the back, 'good job, Frank!'. Without that, they have no motive to work
People don't like doing things for no reward, even if it's just a good pat on the back, 'good job, Frank!'. Without that, they have no motive to work
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2005-11-26 at 21:21:59
Just use Communism as a tool for ambitious people to gain power. If a whole bunch of people get screwed over in the process, oh well...
That may have sounded ignorant, but as we can see in everyday life, those who take the initiative (spelling?) often have chances to gain more. Forget about the theory of Communism. Instead, think about what it can do for certain overly ambitious individuals. Then the rest is history -- use Communism as a "uniting banner" to be proud of:
The Chinese are officially Communist, their government system allows for certain individuals to gain more power, but hell, nobody in China thinks like a Communist anymore. They think capitalistically under a Communist banner. So can Communism work that way?
That may have sounded ignorant, but as we can see in everyday life, those who take the initiative (spelling?) often have chances to gain more. Forget about the theory of Communism. Instead, think about what it can do for certain overly ambitious individuals. Then the rest is history -- use Communism as a "uniting banner" to be proud of:
The Chinese are officially Communist, their government system allows for certain individuals to gain more power, but hell, nobody in China thinks like a Communist anymore. They think capitalistically under a Communist banner. So can Communism work that way?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-27 at 17:31:41
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What about North Korea? People say North Korea is still truly a communist country
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It is the closest of those nations that do call themselves communist, but remember, a true communist state has no dictator.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Frozen-rpg on 2005-12-11 at 21:34:34
communism has the right ideas behing it, everyone being equal, however it does not work because the work force it has no driving force behind it. with out a driving force the people has no reason to work hard. In a capitalistic nation the work force is inspired to work harder because if one works harder they recieve more money.
example:
lets say one produces speaker parts for a living,
in a capitalsitic country you would be paid, lets say $10 a speaker. You work harder to recieve more money. Lets say if you really work hard you can make 7 speakers in a day, thus recieving $70 for that day.
in a communistic country you would be paid by the day not by the work. Lets say you are paid $50 a day no matter how many speakers you create. Thus the average joe would slack off and not work very hard, producing maybe 4 speakers, because their income is not based upon their performace.
example:
lets say one produces speaker parts for a living,
in a capitalsitic country you would be paid, lets say $10 a speaker. You work harder to recieve more money. Lets say if you really work hard you can make 7 speakers in a day, thus recieving $70 for that day.
in a communistic country you would be paid by the day not by the work. Lets say you are paid $50 a day no matter how many speakers you create. Thus the average joe would slack off and not work very hard, producing maybe 4 speakers, because their income is not based upon their performace.