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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-18 at 17:33:58
If the school wants them, then by all means, have them in.

Bush said he'd not put a draft up, as there's no need as of now.

And I wouldn't be drafted into the military because of my eye problem anyway tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-11-18 at 18:14:18
QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Nov 18 2005, 04:05 PM)
Or better yet, have you seen their civilian casulaties?
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If you haven't... http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

I personally think it's their decision. You may not like it, but they're free to make their own choices. If the military starts forcing their way into public schools to recruit, then we have a problem...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-11-18 at 18:21:27
This forum is too polarized either far left or far right. So few moderates around here. As far as I'm concerned, the military should sell itself. "You get a run and you can shoot people, just not ours. Okay? Just follow the orders we give you and you can kill people." Sure, you may not like it, but the fact is that people will wage wars so long as they have the technology to do so. All you need is alot of people and some weapons (even heavy stones can kill people).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-11-18 at 20:09:15
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We're waging a war overseas, in a environmentally and politically hostile country full of insurgents whom want to take their land back from us.

We need more soldiers in Iraq if we are going to stay the course, so recruiters should be allowed to go and recruit.


ok we arnt really having a war at all. who are we fighting? terrorists? more like a supression of rebellion. yeah and it was THIER land in the first place.

we dont need more soldiers in iraq. we actually have too much over there, easier for the rebels. and i believe the death toll for soldiers hit 2000 not a while back. thats nothing compared to other wars.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-18 at 21:25:07
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We need more soldiers in Iraq if we are going to stay the course


Precisely why we never should have been there and should be trying to get out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-11-19 at 18:23:39
QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Nov 18 2005, 05:05 PM)
Muslims are not Terrorists.
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You think I don't know that, you meanie? I AM a muslim. But this isn't about religion, this is about the American millitary needing more soldiers if it wants to do what it has to do. No matter how wrong its objective is, we don't have enough soldiers to patrol their entire goddamn country effectively.

America may be suffering minimal casualties, but the insurgents don't want to kill us. What they are aiming for is causing America to pull out of Iraq as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, if America pulls out, there are two factions violently opposed to eachother, the Sunnis and the Shiites/Kurds. And they WILL kill eachother even more if we pull out.

Don't tell me that I'm ignorant and muslims aren't terrorists again, I didn't say they were. I said they were INSURGENTS.

Terrorists: Want to kill everyone.

Insurgents: Want to take their country back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-11-19 at 18:31:02
I will not vote, that'll teach some punky ass kids, like me 10 years ago.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-19 at 19:45:43
If the school wants them there, so be it. If they dont, then don't have them there. I just think it'd be a bit hypocritical to have a JROTC and deny recruiters.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-11-19 at 19:46:39
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No matter how wrong its objective is, we don't have enough soldiers to patrol their entire goddamn country effectively.

War should be reserved for noble causes. America should not be the 'World Police', we should pull the fark out and worry about our our farking country. 8 trillion dollars of debt is not economic stability. Nuetral is usually the best side.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-19 at 19:48:25
Saddam was a potential threat, had he gotten nuclear arms (or kept, if you believe that). It was to our best interest to remove him and replace the government.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-11-19 at 19:56:33
QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Nov 19 2005, 07:46 PM)
War should be reserved for noble causes. America should not be the 'World Police', we should pull the fark out and worry about our our farking country. 8 trillion dollars of debt is not economic stability. Nuetral is usually the best side.
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That doesen't change the fact that we're already in Iraq and have already farked up the country. We pull out, MORE PEOPLE DIE. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? We have to stay the course for at least another five years.

THINK, bud, THINK.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-11-20 at 15:17:03
Agreed
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-11-20 at 16:10:00
I don't think miliatary recruiters should be allowed in schools. If you're interested, go to the nearest miliatry office or whatever.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-11-21 at 01:50:12
What about some of the students who's only option is to join the military in order to pay for college, but doesn't have the resources to go to the recruiter location or its in another city?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-11-21 at 21:43:57
Can someone answer the question I put in way up at the top?

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What exactly is the situation?


Is it forced a seminar or one of those things that you can walk up to and ask about?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-11-22 at 16:34:18
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Nov 21 2005, 09:43 PM)
Can someone answer the question I put in way up at the top?
Is it forced a seminar or one of those things that you can walk up to and ask about?
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In every one that I've encountered, it's just a table or a booth that is set up somewhere (like in the hallway or lunch room) with 3 or 4 army recruiter guys. You can either walk up to them or they will stand up to talk to you sometimes. I think they are selective whenever they take action though, because they have walked PAST me to ask other guys to join. You are not obligated to do anything they ask. They're kind of annoying, but they don't really bother me much. Like I said earlier, if this is what we get instead of a draft, then I'm all for it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-11-24 at 01:22:45
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but the insurgents don't want to kill us. What they are aiming for is causing America to pull out of Iraq as quickly as possible.

snake you do know your wrong there, right? If you didn't notice... the insurgents are called "al-quada in iraq", notice they beheaded farking contractors, ran planes into wtc. So your gonna sit there and say that they ran planes into the wtc becuz they wanted us out of their country? didn't think so.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-11-24 at 11:42:56
Saddam was no 'potential threat'. Have we found any nukes yet? Hell no!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-11-24 at 14:11:27
None of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi. There is no creible evidence for an Al-Qaeda/Iraq connection. bin Laden hated Saddam fro his secular regime.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-11-24 at 15:03:15
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Nov 16 2005, 02:35 AM)
I just wanted your opinion on this topic.

I feel that like or hate the military we have, they have earned the right to promote themselfs and encourage others to join their ranks by traveling to schools.  No one is forcing you to join the army, I mean if you don't like the recruiters, ignore them - even if they are talking directly to you.

Its also seen as a slap in the face to many military men/women, like that or not.  Also you should note that the Coast Gaurd is part of the Military and they mainly resque boaters etc.. and they are bad too?

I just feel that military recruiters deserve a place in our lifes, becuase with out them we would be nothing.

Thoughts/comments/ideas?
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Yeah lets just take out the military recruiters so our army becomes weak because people wont signup because they dont know censored.gif about the army

I think the military should be able to advertise where ever they want I feel the same about any business too
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-11-24 at 22:28:21
QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Nov 24 2005, 08:42 AM)
Saddam was no 'potential threat'. Have we found any nukes yet? Hell no!
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QUOTE(Dr.Shotgun @ Nov 24 2005, 11:11 AM)
None of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi. There is no creible evidence for an Al-Qaeda/Iraq connection. bin Laden hated Saddam fro his secular regime.
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these have nothing to do with military recruiters, please don't post this here.
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