Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-12 at 22:43:00
cant we willingly change our way of thinking and stop the hating?
maybe criminals should be given games so that they can release their anger into it and not to others... do you think a world full of gamers will decrease criminal activity?
maybe criminals should be given games so that they can release their anger into it and not to others... do you think a world full of gamers will decrease criminal activity?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ninebreaker on 2005-12-12 at 22:44:03
Of course there can, just nuke everyone and everything but yourself.
But if you cant, then no
But if you cant, then no
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2005-12-12 at 22:44:23
I thought that a lot of people actually think violent video games promote more violence in the community.
Edit: this was referring to no-0b's post
Edit: this was referring to no-0b's post
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-12 at 22:51:19
as long as it isnt illegal violence, then it's fine XD
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-12 at 22:59:39
i think this topic is useless.... theres already an obveous answer
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2005-12-12 at 23:20:57
World Peace will never be accomplished Cause theres Always going to be Some Group like Al Qaeda, -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-14 at 08:23:03
I think this is a far too one-sided question to deserve a topic.
World Peace can never be acheived. Different opinions means conflict, and if you force everybody to beleive the same thing, they will revolt (as history has taught us many times).
Secondly, who in their right mind wants World Peace? Without war, there'd be no Starcraft. Think about it, without war, practically all the games rated T or higher wouldn't exist.
World Peace can never be acheived. Different opinions means conflict, and if you force everybody to beleive the same thing, they will revolt (as history has taught us many times).
Secondly, who in their right mind wants World Peace? Without war, there'd be no Starcraft. Think about it, without war, practically all the games rated T or higher wouldn't exist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2005-12-14 at 14:53:29
QUOTE(Nils @ Dec 12 2005, 11:20 PM)
World Peace will never be accomplished Cause theres Always going to be Some Group like Al Qaeda, -_-
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And no other groups? A corrupt entity such as Focus on the Family is no threat to any hypothetical chance of prolonged peace? They're just as farking bloodthirsty, they just conceal it and keep digging deeper into America's political machinery. Then there's all the other groups that want homosexuals dead, the KKK, PETA..
Violence isn't limited to Muslims countries.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by frazz on 2005-12-14 at 16:01:01
Sadly, peace will never exist till mankind comes to an end. Though it would be nice. And if you say "War is good because it makes life exciting and encourages economy etc.", then try telling that to all the soldiers that died in wars, or people that were forced to fight for ideals they didn't support, or people who died in the crossfire of gangs, oh wait, they're all dead, well maybe you could ask some of their families.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2005-12-14 at 17:52:24
QUOTE(frazz @ Dec 15 2005, 10:01 AM)
Sadly, peace will never exist till mankind comes to an end. Though it would be nice. And if you say "War is good because it makes life exciting and encourages economy etc.", then try telling that to all the soldiers that died in wars, or people that were forced to fight for ideals they didn't support, or people who died in the crossfire of gangs, oh wait, they're all dead, well maybe you could ask some of their families.
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I'm assuming you're referring partly to my post. I never said war was good, but it has some pros and cons. As many have said, world peace would never be achieved so even if the world agreed to some kind of terms to stop production of weapons... it'll just leave every country defenseless to some form of terrorist group that stands up against the world. World peace is not possible, but you can come closer to it by having extremely strict laws, severe punishment and loads of mass destructive weapons that will more likely prevent people (or countries) from committing crimes/something-violent than having to punish them - Instead having no means of control and power over people and expect them to develop world peace in a non-pressure influenced way (which is impossible to achieve world peace because from human's instincts they would not voluntarily be "nice" to each other, instead they compete) So in the end, we have to scare the world into world peace. However, there is one more problem to this. Using this means of achieving world peace means that there must be a form of authority in the world that exerts power and punishment over those below them - keeping them in control. This means a country have to rise over all the others, and every country has to have some form of authority governing their citizens. However, in the end what's stopping the country in authority from abusing it's power? Even if the whole world united, the "authority" of the world can still totally abuse it's power doing something that cannot be considered world peace. So you're saying that every country should be equal to achieve world peace? Well, you forgot that humans compete. If we are all equal, one will try to overcome and push down the other - Two dominant equally strong sides clashed during World War II (Allies and Axis). So in the end, there's always a flaw in every theory to achieve world peace. It's not possible (Like everyone else there has been saying a billion time already).
Also, you're sounding so "understanding" towards the dead soldiers. Most of the time the soldiers died for something that will eventually benefit your country greatly (sometimes even a need). Or the soldiers are defending against those soldiers. In the end, if they're not out there your country probably won't have the status they have now, and you'll probably be dead too. At least they're out there to combat the enemies so you can keep your lives. Also, don't tell me anything about "if there is no war or conflict we don't have to worry about this", because again - it isn't possible.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2005-12-14 at 23:10:46
Absolute peace is impossible.
Reasons why:
-Entropy
-Everybody is different
-Places have certain needs
-Human corruption
-Money exists
There are many more, but the first one, entropy, doesn't allow absolute peace to exist by itself. There is no such thing as a single, perfect condition.
Reasons why:
-Entropy
-Everybody is different
-Places have certain needs
-Human corruption
-Money exists
There are many more, but the first one, entropy, doesn't allow absolute peace to exist by itself. There is no such thing as a single, perfect condition.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by frazz on 2005-12-17 at 12:33:32
QUOTE(Screwed @ Dec 14 2005, 03:52 PM)
I'm assuming you're referring partly to my post. I never said war was good, but it has some pros and cons. As many have said, world peace would never be achieved so even if the world agreed to some kind of terms to stop production of weapons... it'll just leave every country defenseless to some form of terrorist group that stands up against the world. World peace is not possible, but you can come closer to it by having extremely strict laws, severe punishment and loads of mass destructive weapons that will more likely prevent people (or countries) from committing crimes/something-violent than having to punish them - Instead having no means of control and power over people and expect them to develop world peace in a non-pressure influenced way (which is impossible to achieve world peace because from human's instincts they would not voluntarily be "nice" to each other, instead they compete) So in the end, we have to scare the world into world peace. However, there is one more problem to this. Using this means of achieving world peace means that there must be a form of authority in the world that exerts power and punishment over those below them - keeping them in control. This means a country have to rise over all the others, and every country has to have some form of authority governing their citizens. However, in the end what's stopping the country in authority from abusing it's power? Even if the whole world united, the "authority" of the world can still totally abuse it's power doing something that cannot be considered world peace. So you're saying that every country should be equal to achieve world peace? Well, you forgot that humans compete. If we are all equal, one will try to overcome and push down the other - Two dominant equally strong sides clashed during World War II (Allies and Axis). So in the end, there's always a flaw in every theory to achieve world peace. It's not possible (Like everyone else there has been saying a billion time already).
Also, you're sounding so "understanding" towards the dead soldiers. Most of the time the soldiers died for something that will eventually benefit your country greatly (sometimes even a need). Or the soldiers are defending against those soldiers. In the end, if they're not out there your country probably won't have the status they have now, and you'll probably be dead too. At least they're out there to combat the enemies so you can keep your lives. Also, don't tell me anything about "if there is no war or conflict we don't have to worry about this", because again - it isn't possible.
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Also, you're sounding so "understanding" towards the dead soldiers. Most of the time the soldiers died for something that will eventually benefit your country greatly (sometimes even a need). Or the soldiers are defending against those soldiers. In the end, if they're not out there your country probably won't have the status they have now, and you'll probably be dead too. At least they're out there to combat the enemies so you can keep your lives. Also, don't tell me anything about "if there is no war or conflict we don't have to worry about this", because again - it isn't possible.
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I said we can't have world peace. But we should still try. Ruling by fear is the worst way anyone can rule, because it never works, and it never has. And republics only work as long as the people aren't corrupt. History has taught us that every government is doomed to fail and fall out of power. War is a direct result of this. As long as there are corrupt people, there are corrupt governments, and as long as there are corrupt governments, there are wars.
War is inevitable, but still bad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-19 at 21:46:49
Peace ain't gonna happen until corruption dies, and intellectuals start running the show. But you know what, that ain't happening. In real life, the good guys don't win.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-19 at 22:03:05
what do you mean by the good guys?
do you mean the Allies in ww2 who fought the Axis?
do you mean the U.N. who are fighting terrorists?
do you mean the countless revolutionists who fought for a better life?
if you do, then i think the good guys do win
do you mean the Allies in ww2 who fought the Axis?
do you mean the U.N. who are fighting terrorists?
do you mean the countless revolutionists who fought for a better life?
if you do, then i think the good guys do win
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-19 at 23:51:54
Sorry, forgot one little detail. Most of the time the good guys don't win.
BTW - UN fighting terrorists isn't a good example. You can't defeat terrorism.
BTW - UN fighting terrorists isn't a good example. You can't defeat terrorism.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-19 at 23:57:19
Where have you been? The good guys always win, just not right away.
ADDITION:
Of course, that's a point of view. So what if you had two good guys fighting each other?
Like Daredevil and Spiderman!
ADDITION:
Of course, that's a point of view. So what if you had two good guys fighting each other?
Like Daredevil and Spiderman!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-19 at 23:59:28
then there wouldnt be a fight because good guys usually dont attack when they dont have a reason to
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-20 at 00:02:49
QUOTE(Truthseeker @ Dec 19 2005, 11:57 PM)
Where have you been? The good guys always win, just not right away.
ADDITION:
Of course, that's a point of view. So what if you had two good guys fighting each other?
Like Daredevil and Spiderman!
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ADDITION:
Of course, that's a point of view. So what if you had two good guys fighting each other?
Like Daredevil and Spiderman!
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good guys do win at the very end, but a wise man once said, (I can't remember the exact quote)
"Justice delayed too long is not justice"
-Martin Luther King
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-20 at 00:11:03
A fine quote, and it may be true. But my point was that, yes, in the very end, the good guys always win.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-20 at 01:26:22
As long as you have idiot politicians in command of countries there will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER be peace. The human race is built on violence... ESPECIALLY America...
1)Revolutionary War
2)Civil War
3)WWI and WWII
4)Pearl Harbor
5)Korean War
6)Persian Gulf War
7)Cold War
8)Vietnam War
9)War On Terror
10)9/11
11)London Bombings
12)France Riots
13)Suicidal Car Bomb/Kamikazi Terrorists
14)Slavery
15)Pillaging of Villages
16)Gang Wars
17)Cuban Missle Crisis
18)Atom Bombs Dropped On Japan
19)Hitler and the Extermination of Jews
20)Jerusalem-Religious War
Do I HAVE to continue? Humans are naturally violent and nothing that anyone can do cannot change it otherwise! I rest my case.
1)Revolutionary War
2)Civil War
3)WWI and WWII
4)Pearl Harbor
5)Korean War
6)Persian Gulf War
7)Cold War
8)Vietnam War
9)War On Terror
10)9/11
11)London Bombings
12)France Riots
13)Suicidal Car Bomb/Kamikazi Terrorists
14)Slavery
15)Pillaging of Villages
16)Gang Wars
17)Cuban Missle Crisis
18)Atom Bombs Dropped On Japan
19)Hitler and the Extermination of Jews
20)Jerusalem-Religious War
Do I HAVE to continue? Humans are naturally violent and nothing that anyone can do cannot change it otherwise! I rest my case.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-20 at 01:29:45
Exactly. It's in our nature.
I hate nature. Nature is evil. I say we wage war on nature! Burn the trees I say! Burn them all!
I hate nature. Nature is evil. I say we wage war on nature! Burn the trees I say! Burn them all!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-20 at 01:39:12
I guess your not up in current affairs musician... everyday... America just keeps running over nature with bulldozers to create new places to live and go to work at... We are advancing in power and economy while at the same time destroying all wildlife as we know it!!! DUN DUN DUN!! 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-20 at 01:41:33
QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 20 2005, 01:39 AM)
I guess your not up in current affairs musician... everyday... America just keeps running over nature with bulldozers to create new places to live and go to work at... We are advancing in power and economy while at the same time destroying all wildlife as we know it!!! DUN DUN DUN!!
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Not up to current affairs? What? I'm the one driving the bull dozers.
If it can do photosyn-whatever-isis........shoot it! That's our moto.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-20 at 10:58:38
No.
There will be always someone, Some where lusting for power.. or some thing similar... sorry to say but there is no such thing as peace..
The peace treaty in WWI was ment to prevent any future wars... did it?
There will be always someone, Some where lusting for power.. or some thing similar... sorry to say but there is no such thing as peace..
The peace treaty in WWI was ment to prevent any future wars... did it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-20 at 11:19:25
By peace meaning us having no wars for about an entire decade or two. Ya, I can see that happening some day. And by some day, I mean some time in the 31st century.