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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-21 at 19:23:10
That sounds wise O.o
Well, man doesn't have to have power, man just wants power.
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You throw a rock at me, I throw a spear at you.
You throw a spear at me, I shoot a gun at you.
You shoot a gun at me, I throw a grenade at you.
You throw a grenade at me, I shoot a missle at you.
You shoot a missle at me, I farking nuke you and we are both dead.

True, but it can also be more gradual escalation.


I throw a rock at you, you throw a rock at me.
You throw a rock at me, I throw a spear on you.

Either way, it escalates.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-12-21 at 21:00:26
Survival of teh fitest.

Technology makes you fittest.


A spear will beat a gun if the gun is empty
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-21 at 21:04:12
For a long time bows were superior to guns blink.gif
Guns were single shot an took long to reload, bows were just notch and fire.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-12-21 at 22:50:58
[center]Just remember what Nobel was trying to do when he invented dynamite.
"I should like to create a substance or a machine with such horrific capacity for annihilation that wars would become impossible forever."
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-22 at 03:09:50
I thought that quote was for the gattling gun or something similar.

I got a great idea though

(Get ready for it)

Remove the middle east!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-22 at 04:54:35
wtf conflict wont stop by just removing the middle east. there are civil wars going on in africa. political pressure is growing in asia. gang wars are happening in our own country.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-12-22 at 07:51:41
"We won't use nukes any time soon, nukes are more likely going to be sent to mars to nuke the ice caps and warm the planet then against each other.

They are more like scare tactical weapon."

What the fark? Why would we want to warm Mars. Plus, won't the fallout make it uninhabitable?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-22 at 15:51:07
radiation is healthy and good for you *twitches uncontrollably*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-22 at 16:06:03
QUOTE(Dr.Shotgun @ Dec 22 2005, 07:51 AM)
"We won't use nukes any time soon, nukes are more likely going to be sent to mars to nuke the ice caps and warm the planet then against each other.

They are more like scare tactical weapon."

What the fark? Why would we want to warm Mars. Plus, won't the fallout make it uninhabitable?
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Now first of all... who said a radiation/nuke infested planet was unhealthy for humans? Besides... if we settled Mars Itd be like Total Recall! HA! cool1.gif Thatd be sw33t
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-22 at 17:47:07
See we send nukes to mars, by the time we are actually able to get to mars with humans, the radiation would have gone down (its like 30 years or something correct?) and the planet would be warm and hopefully oxygen rich etc.. good for life.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-22 at 21:39:49
it takes 100 years for radiation poisoning to become toleratable for life(but extended periods like years will increase cancer chances) it takes 1000 years for the radiation to completely disapear.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-12-22 at 21:42:21
Not pointless. The war drives us to create newer better technology faster and by the time we get out of the war we've advanced about 3 years out of war for every year in the war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-23 at 00:20:45
...with 2-3 million less people on the earth. mellow.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-23 at 01:30:56
good, population control
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-23 at 17:54:40
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Just remember what Nobel was trying to do when he invented dynamite.
"I should like to create a substance or a machine with such horrific capacity for annihilation that wars would become impossible forever."

What are you smoking??
Nobel invented Dynamite to clear rocks and such for contruction purposes. He felt horribly guilty when it was put to use at war, and thus he created the Nobel Peace Prize.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-23 at 17:54:41
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Just remember what Nobel was trying to do when he invented dynamite.
"I should like to create a substance or a machine with such horrific capacity for annihilation that wars would become impossible forever."

What are you smoking??
Nobel invented Dynamite to clear rocks and such for contruction purposes. He felt horribly guilty when it was put to use at war, and thus he created the Nobel Peace Prize.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Master-kenobi on 2005-12-24 at 15:51:58
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Dec 19 2005, 10:41 PM)
If it's so pointless then go see if the afterlife (which there is none) is any better, untill then stop whining, you're fat, you're happy, you get to go to school.
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ok dude i cant avoid this but how do u know theres no afterlife?

about the "afterlife" sence noone can even gain a clue about wat it is or isnt willl ppl just shutupabout it.

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Wow ud think it b obvious wepon technoogies just cause mass death imagin oyu made a new war technology and it was the reason ur son died in war

It would cause pain and anger that cause MORE war and MORE technologies
not only that the cost for these tewchnjologies would drasticly hurt economy

heres something why cant people stop fighting and farking nuke pluto with everything
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-12-24 at 16:00:04
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it takes 100 years for radiation poisoning to become toleratable for life(but extended periods like years will increase cancer chances) it takes 1000 years for the radiation to completely disapear.

If they knew this then why would they do it in the first place? Btw for all of you out there, the nuke wasn't originally made for war, so war didn't create it.
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Not pointless. The war drives us to create newer better technology faster and by the time we get out of the war we've advanced about 3 years out of war for every year in the war.

Yes I'm sure a global genocide is worth a slightly safer car, or a new toilet plunger.
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ok dude i cant avoid this but how do u know theres no afterlife?

about the "afterlife" sence noone can even gain a clue about wat it is or isnt willl ppl just shutupabout it.

People know what happens after you die, absolutely nothing, your brain isn't working so it's impossible for you to be thinking about anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-24 at 17:31:45
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If they knew this then why would they do it in the first place? Btw for all of you out there, the nuke wasn't originally made for war, so war didn't create it.


wtf. the nuclear bomb was created for war. the US wanted to have a super weapon that would win WW2. the concept of a nuclear reaction however came from einstein.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Killa_04 on 2005-12-24 at 22:59:17
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Dec 19 2005, 09:26 PM)
The other day I saw a documentary about the military advancements in WWII. I thought to myself for a while and realized that there really is no point in better technology when it comes to warfare. When a better type of armor is designed, a weapon to counter it is designed, when a weapon to counter it is designed, a better type of armor is designed. All that we are really doing is making war cost much more, eventually war will just be some fancy billion dollar battle bots ripping each other into shreds.
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Thats very true. The thing is that if you stop developing better technology, some other country will become more advanced and your army will become weaker. Its just a vicious circle really. Sayoka is slightly incorrect. The scientists who developed the atomic bomb were not making it for war. If you listen to their interview (which I have for some stupid reason...) they developed the atomic bomb so that countries would never go to war again because of the possible effects of the usage of atomic weapons. After the atomic bomb was used on Japan, the lead dude said he thought the atomic bomb would never actualy be used and that is why he developed it and he regretted it afterwards.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-12-25 at 20:18:06
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wtf. the nuclear bomb was created for war. the US wanted to have a super weapon that would win WW2. the concept of a nuclear reaction however came from einstein.

The concept came from Einstien, and he wanted it to be used for science, it was never meant for war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-25 at 23:00:00
Einstein knew it could be used for war. He's not stupid. He's didn't sit there and say,"Hmmm, this whole nuclear thing can easily be transformed into some sort of extremely deadly weapon. But I doubt the military would ever use it."

War is pointless if you look at it w/ really deep philosophy. If you look at it a little bit less broad, it's not pointless at all. It actually has a "point". It may not usually be a good point, but in some cases it is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-12-25 at 23:04:32
Didn't the creator of Dynamite kill his brother or something?
I thought I read this somewhere.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Raindodger on 2005-12-26 at 00:33:39
Bleh, i think the humans would be safer back in the times when we had swords and stuf, even with the diseases. biggrin.gif Swords > Guns. We're all going to just kill ourself anyways. One day on new years the leaders of all the countries owning nuclear weapons should all launch them. That would be awesome fireworks. Then we'd all die and be much better off dead.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-26 at 05:54:46
Einstien came up with the concept of Nuclear Fusion.

Robert Openheimer CREATED Nuclear Fusion (With the creation of the Atom Bomb) then killed himself after we used it on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. (Maybe just after one, I can't entirely remember)
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