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Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-12-19 at 23:26:35
The other day I saw a documentary about the military advancements in WWII. I thought to myself for a while and realized that there really is no point in better technology when it comes to warfare. When a better type of armor is designed, a weapon to counter it is designed, when a weapon to counter it is designed, a better type of armor is designed. All that we are really doing is making war cost much more, eventually war will just be some fancy billion dollar battle bots ripping each other into shreds.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2005-12-19 at 23:29:33
World + People = Pointless?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-12-19 at 23:40:53
War costs enough money as it is. It was usefull during the depression times to boost back the economy. You make a weapon in hopes that the other doest not create something that they can use to defend themself. It is a game of development and smarts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-12-19 at 23:41:51
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World + People = Pointless?

If it's so pointless then go see if the afterlife (which there is none) is any better, untill then stop whining, you're fat, you're happy, you get to go to school.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-19 at 23:50:01
We're civilized animals. Of course there's gonna be wars. Kill or be killed, that's a part of nature's way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-19 at 23:54:22
I, for one, am happy wat advances technology. We might not have computers if it weren't for the military crazy.gif
Without the cold war advancements, we would never have put a man on the moon
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-12-19 at 23:54:31
It's a never ending game of leapfrog. If you're in a war, and you realize you have the ability to make something that will pierce their armor, then you're gonna do it. If someone were to be apathetic about the nature of war and choose to do nothing instead of make the upgrade, then they'd die. It's an evolution of it's own sorts. Of course something will be made to counter it, the advantage can't last forever. But in order to survive, the change must be made at that time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-19 at 23:55:33
For a certain peroid of time, the advantage of the technology is undeniable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-20 at 00:36:00
yes eventually a weapon will come out to match that armor but they use the short period of time where that armor holds and advantage to use. and vice versa.

body armor saved hundreds of troops in iraq and afganistan. since the enemy is using outdated weapons like the Ak-47 we hold the technological superiority. therefore technology+war does not = useless
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-20 at 00:58:53
More Advance Tech. = More Deaths
When war strikes... its payday for manufactoring companies because they're being forced by the gov't to make weapons and tanks and jeeps and bullets while terrorists are making bombs then the gov't needs better bomb disarming equipment. Eventually... tanks and weapons are going to be so advanced that it will be IMPOSSIBLE to do anything or get ANYwhere. Then stronger NUKES come in and then you have a nuclear winter... At least there's gonna be no school...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonshine on 2005-12-20 at 09:00:55
Good old stream of consciousness arguements.

QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 20 2005, 01:58 PM)
Eventually... tanks and weapons are going to be so advanced that it will be IMPOSSIBLE to do anything or get ANYwhere. [right][snapback]383902[/snapback][/right]


Haven't you studied physics? It already is!

But anyway, advances in technology "terrace" the playing field. Only countries with similar technology can hope to compete with each other in battle. Otherwise, it's just unfair (iraq, afghanistan). It also prevents the casual terrorist from being able to cause any amount of real chaos. It narrows the playing field, if you're looking for a metaphore.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-20 at 11:37:46
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More Advance Tech. = More Deaths
When war strikes... its payday for manufactoring companies because they're being forced by the gov't to make weapons and tanks and jeeps and bullets while terrorists are making bombs then the gov't needs better bomb disarming equipment. Eventually... tanks and weapons are going to be so advanced that it will be IMPOSSIBLE to do anything or get ANYwhere. Then stronger NUKES come in and then you have a nuclear winter... At least there's gonna be no school...

Would you rather lay dying for an hour with a spear impaling you, or take a tank shell to the chest and feel about 1/4 a second of pain?

ADDITION:
War is more sanitary now, I beleive.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-20 at 12:38:43
QUOTE(Moonshine @ Dec 20 2005, 06:00 AM)
Good old stream of consciousness arguements.
Haven't you studied physics? It already is!

But anyway, advances in technology "terrace" the playing field. Only countries with similar technology can hope to compete with each other in battle. Otherwise, it's just unfair (iraq, afghanistan). It also prevents the casual terrorist from being able to cause any amount of real chaos. It narrows the playing field, if you're looking for a metaphore.
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When America went to Aphganistan, the Aphganis thought they were pretty bad cause they defeated the Russians and kicked them out.... So sometimes primative weapons can defeat superior weapons.

I mean a weapon is only as good as the person manning it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-12-20 at 12:57:15
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We're civilized animals. Of course there's gonna be wars. Kill or be killed, that's a part of nature's way.

What does that have to do with anything?
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Would you rather lay dying for an hour with a spear impaling you, or take a tank shell to the chest and feel about 1/4 a second of pain?

ADDITION:
War is more sanitary now, I beleive.

Would you rather have your face burned off by a willie pete and die slowly from shrapnel piercing your innards, or a boulder smashing you in a second? War is the same, it just costs more.
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body armor saved hundreds of troops in iraq and afganistan. since the enemy is using outdated weapons like the Ak-47 we hold the technological superiority. therefore technology+war does not = useless

But in the end there will always be a way to pierce new armor, or to disable new weapons, in the long run war just costs more.
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I, for one, am happy wat advances technology. We might not have computers if it weren't for the military crazy.gif
Without the cold war advancements, we would never have put a man on the moon

No.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-20 at 14:13:44
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Would you rather lay dying for an hour with a spear impaling you, or take a tank shell to the chest and feel about 1/4 a second of pain?

ADDITION:
War is more sanitary now, I beleive.


thats not neccesarily true.... you can have a non mortal wound and slowly bleed to death. theres also the discussion about chemical weapons that the troops suffered in the persian gulf. then theres the radiation part about nukes. war never gets more sanitary
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-20 at 14:22:31
We won't use nukes any time soon, nukes are more likely going to be sent to mars to nuke the ice caps and warm the planet then against each other.

They are more like scare tactical weapon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-20 at 14:26:08
i dont believe terroristic orginizations will hold back. i wasnt talking about the US i was talking about war in general
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2005-12-20 at 14:26:47
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Dec 19 2005, 11:41 PM)
If it's so pointless then go see if the afterlife (which there is none) is any better, untill then stop whining, you're fat, you're happy, you get to go to school.
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Explain how this is whining.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-20 at 15:28:05
I wouldn't say its pointless; We have nothing that can stop the more destructive modern weaponry, such as nukes. In the end, it will probably come to be an all offensive war, as opposed to offense/defense, because defense won't be as advanced, and has less capabilities.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by VizuaL on 2005-12-20 at 15:48:59
Man must have power, power requires strength, weaponry, and land mass. countries will advance their weapons to ensure they are on top. build more nukes, use more money. Take control. Man will fight, and theres no changing that.



--Vizual
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-12-20 at 16:49:51
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Explain how this is whining.

Explain how you're on topic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-12-21 at 18:30:40


The problem with war and technology is escalation.

You throw a rock at me, I throw a spear at you.
You throw a spear at me, I shoot a gun at you.
You shoot a gun at me, I throw a grenade at you.
You throw a grenade at me, I shoot a missle at you.
You shoot a missle at me, I farking nuke you and we are both dead.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-21 at 18:52:45
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Explain how you're on topic.

explain how you are?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-21 at 19:18:45
Euro, just stop please..... its getting old

On Topic:

Yeah well if you kill him before he can escalate problem is solved smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-12-21 at 19:20:54

But if there are thousands and millions of them, and thousands and millions on your side......a bit harder.

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