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Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-01-05 at 13:19:10
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Jan 4 2006, 11:32 PM)
anyway i believe that time already has a pre-determined line

but i also believe that our choices is that of our own
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then can't you say that if you have choices, the choices may alter your future? Meaning for example, if i was destined to get killed tomorrow, I can choose to run away to a corner where i can't be killed. Doesn't that change our future, resulting in NOT destined time? It all seems off for some reason that you can have choice and have predestination as well...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-05 at 15:36:10
this is where my logic falls into differnt dimensions.....

since there are an infinite number of dimensions there should be one for every differnt choices i have made. but we still follow a straight line.

so responding to procuress's stuff:
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then can't you say that if you have choices, the choices may alter your future? Meaning for example, if i was destined to get killed tomorrow, I can choose to run away to a corner where i can't be killed. Doesn't that change our future, resulting in NOT destined time? It all seems off for some reason that you can have choice and have predestination as well...


time line1: hides
_____________decision-------runs----

time line2: dies

_____________decision====dies===

the - and = signs dictate when the path differs.

of course this is only my theory....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-05 at 17:18:34
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Join the club.


Got any jackets?



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Not necessarily. I'm often very cruel to my characters in stories (and sometimes I feel guilt about it, is that normal?). If God is a writer, then he would be the best, hands down, at creating an INTERESTING story. A story where everything is happy and everyone has no problems is BORING. A story isn't good unless the characters have obstacles to overcome. Most wishful human writers make it so that the characters ALWAYS overcome their problems, but that isn't realistic. You are in true peril in your own life story. Keep in mind, tragedies make for great stories as well (Romeo & Juliet, or the Godfather movies).


we're humans thou, as from what the bible tells us, gods love is surpreme, meaning he wouldnt be writing bad things and doing anything cruel to us?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-05 at 17:29:43
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newtons law of relativity:

For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction...


I knew what you were trying to get at.

For everything we do, there will be an consiquence that is opposite, but has the same reaction. (I hate being tired)

Blah.. To tired to fully explain...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-01-05 at 17:42:36
QUOTE(Mp)Cloud @ Jan 5 2006, 05:18 PM)
Got any jackets?
we're humans thou, as from what the bible tells us, gods love is surpreme, meaning he wouldnt be writing bad things and doing anything cruel to us?
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Maybe it's tough love, then. Loving someone does not mean giving them what they want and making them happy all the time. I've been in plenty of situations that made me curse the maker, but I always come out better because of it. Therefor, no struggle = no growth.

I'm still waiting on my jacket.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-01-05 at 18:07:46
Well, if you think about it, everything does happen for a reason. Something caused that event to take place; there is a reason for why it took place.
There is a reason as to why you are alive. Your parents created you.

I know thats not what you meant by the question, but its a way of looking at it.

And fate? We'll, it's impossible to say if there is fate or not. What has happened, happened. Period. You can debate whether our lives are dictated by choice or a pre-planned destination, but what you will find is that there is no point because there is nothing you can do about it. What would happen if we knew everything was pre-planned? Nothing, because we still wouldn't be able to control our fates, because we still wouldn't know what would happen. Yes, we would realize what we are doing was going to happen no matter what and we couldn't do anything about it. We still wouldn't know WHAT we were going to do though.

If everything was free will then there is nothing to worry about. It is just like we have been living now; either with the knowlage that we have free will or the illusion that we portray for ourselves. Either way, it doesn't matter.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-01-07 at 20:42:55
With out counting the way dark pointed out, there really isn't too much of a reason why most the things happen in this world. People make up stupid reasons why stuff happen. It's usually in the sense that something more powerful than you made it happen. That kind of reason is purely religious, and is beyond wrong. If you want a religious debate, go read the past threads.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by the on 2006-01-08 at 01:01:35
fate is a lame excuse

people who use it are losers
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-08 at 02:06:38
gee the thanks for your intelligent opinion im sure that many people will benefit from it.

think of anything and there will be a reason behind it. it might not always be a good reason but it doesnt have to. fate = everything happens for a reason.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by the on 2006-01-08 at 02:11:43
i'm right

people who say their lives are beyond their control are losers

losers suck, so don't say that
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-08 at 02:13:26
if you go into extreme believes of fate then yes you are right. the people who do not hold themselves accountable for thier actions are loosers tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2006-01-08 at 02:21:07
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fate is a lame excuse

people who use it are losers

Let's take out the opinioins in that post.

"Fate is an excuse.

People who use it are"

Doesn't make much sense w/o opinions, so we can assume your whole post was opinion based. I don't value your opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by the on 2006-01-08 at 02:23:23
QUOTE(Castaminator @ Jan 8 2006, 01:21 AM)
Let's take out the opinioins in that post.

"Fate is an excuse.

People who use it are"

Doesn't make much sense w/o opinions, so we can assume your whole post was opinion based. I don't value your opinion.
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what the hell are you talking about
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 03:23:49
It's meaning that you're calling us losers because of your OPINION.

Does the term Pseudo-Intellectual mean anything to you?

And by the way (Ad Hominem Abusive on the way), you should not even post in this thread for the lack of an arguement. "You're all losers because you believe in fate when IN MY OPINION, fate is gay"

What pathetic excuse for an argument is that?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by the on 2006-01-08 at 03:43:07
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 8 2006, 02:23 AM)
It's meaning that you're calling us losers because of your OPINION.

Does the term Pseudo-Intellectual mean anything to you?

And by the way (Ad Hominem Abusive on the way), you should not even post in this thread for the lack of an arguement.  "You're all losers because you believe in fate when IN MY OPINION, fate is gay"

What pathetic excuse for an argument is that?
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are you saying that having an opinion is wrong? and that you didn't use opinion in your previous post?

also, why do you also insult people but then cry when they insult you? you got issues?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 03:56:15
QUOTE(the @ Jan 8 2006, 01:43 AM)
are you saying that having an opinion is wrong?  and that you didn't use opinion in your previous post?

also, why do you also insult people but then cry when they insult you?  you got issues?
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In the wise words of Yoshi_Da_Sniper:
QUOTE(GOD)
"IF YOU KNOW ITS BAD OR STUPID, DONT DO IT".


Take his advice.

And to answer your questions:

Opinion in Serious Discussion: No
My opinion in last post: No
Isulting you: Didn't do it.

Quit trying to bring a spammious reply made by you in a different thread, into another.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by the on 2006-01-08 at 04:04:14
euro, give it up

you can at least try to make sense when posting under a troll name
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 04:22:03
QUOTE(the @ Jan 8 2006, 02:04 AM)
euro, give it up

you can at least try to make sense when posting under a troll name
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Why are you refering to me as Euro? We're not S.T.A.R.S-Chris/Titus

And if you didn't have the mentality of a 2 year old, you would be able to understand what GOD is speaking of.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-08 at 04:22:35
why don't you give up your absurd theory. when in fact I did make sense. I had definate proof right there we were two diff ppl. Maybe we made 2 aimaccounts in an attempt to disprove you!!! conspiracies, conspiracies...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by the on 2006-01-08 at 04:37:23
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 8 2006, 02:56 AM)
In the wise words of Yoshi_Da_Sniper:
QUOTE(GOD)
"IF YOU KNOW ITS BAD OR STUPID, DONT DO IT".


Take his advice.

And to answer your questions:

Opinion in Serious Discussion: No
My opinion in last post: No
Isulting you: Didn't do it.

Quit trying to bring a spammious reply made by you in a different thread, into another.
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i'm quoting this

ADDITION:
QUOTE(Euro @ Jan 8 2006, 03:22 AM)
why don't you give up your absurd theory. when in fact I did make sense. I had definate proof right there we were two diff ppl. Maybe we made 2 aimaccounts in an attempt to disprove you!!! conspiracies, conspiracies...
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and this

in case you guys want to go back and edit
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 04:57:04
*Sighs* NOOB! That's all you're good at: NOOBIENESS

Did you fail to see how HORRIBLY BAD Tazzy pizzowned you!?

Me = Kellimus

Euro = Euro

Blind pride! Face it. YOU LOST.

And to think: You spammed our forum because you were to arrogent to show evidence of an assumption.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-08 at 05:09:07
Don't you see, Kellimus? They thought you were the same people for a reason. To prove how "unwhitie" they are.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 05:11:26
Welcome back, Donwano/Big Kahoona, I see you're still a dolt as usual, eh?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-08 at 20:26:53
Why would we go back and edit? Because I proved how we are two seperate people and have witnesses to prove it, yet you still defend the indefensible. what are you 5? We both said you were 12 because its an OBSERVATION. Usually if multiple people state the same observation, it is true. (I.E. You are drinking sprite, Person 'A' states that the drink is colorless. Person 'B' also states it is colorless. Therefore the most logical solution is that the sprite is in fact colorless.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Killa_04 on 2006-01-09 at 00:04:39
I don't really believe in fate or stuff like that. I don't know why really, I don't believe in relidgon might be some of the reason. It doesn't really matter anyway really because no matter what someone does they'll still die and other stuff.
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