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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-08 at 03:30:05
Let them take money in what civilized people call "taxes", but they can't force me to buy something.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 03:32:42
What money? You mean the debt?

Take your One-Dollar bill and look at the top: Federal RESERVE NOTE

Now in the world of Economics... Does a Reserve Note not show evidence of debt??
Report, edit, etc...Posted by the on 2006-01-08 at 03:37:59
are you two the same person? you both pulled the "you are 12" card, in addition to always responding to me quoting the other guy

ADDITION:
QUOTE(Euro @ Jan 8 2006, 02:30 AM)
Let them take money in what civilized people call "taxes", but they can't force me to buy something.
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it's civilized to take money by force?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 03:39:23
Uh, apparently to the American government, ya.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by the on 2006-01-08 at 03:40:49
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 8 2006, 02:39 AM)
Uh, apparently to the American government, ya.
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do you have a reason?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 04:02:41
You are FORCED to pay taxes, or the IRS throws you in prison.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by the on 2006-01-08 at 04:05:45
euro, and that makes it civilized?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 04:12:07
-_-

Judging by your replies, and the inibility to comprehend humor, you really must be younger than 12.

He forgot the " "s around civilized, you greyie.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-01-08 at 14:41:58
QUOTE(Euro @ Jan 8 2006, 01:03 AM)
Lately you haven't come up with a good argument and sound like your always joking. Whats up alpha?
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Political debates, I am not an expert in. Simply due to the fact that there is much I don't know, that no one here really knows actually. Just because I have an above average understanding of economics and politics compared to people my age, still doesn't mean I'm an expert in any way. There's maybe a handful people who really know what's going on. And none of us here are one of them.

What I can say for sure is this:
Our government, as bad as it may be, it's nothing compared to other ones. Corruption is everywhere. I don't hate our government, I just don't like it. Infact, I don't like any government period. But I know we need one. Anarchy really gets us no where. Unless you go into the extreme deep philosophy, unmaterialistic thing, that no one would listen to.

Thing I'm not near 100% sure on is this:
If USA is a good enough world power to take over the world within the next 1,000 years. Not as in, do they have ability, but more towards, should they? To get world peace, the only way I can really see, is to unite the entire world under 1 republic. Confederacy just doesn't work. You just simply need to unite everyone together into a federal government. America just so happens to be a federal government, a democracy (a fake one though), and rights. (some of which are bullshiz) But every government that becomes as powerful as we are today, would be corrupted. We can do better, yes. But the question is, is it good enough right now? Do we need more time as a society until we're ready? I say, just a few more decades.

World Domination is the wrong word for it. It's more like, World Unification. A Unified species. No more fighting other people because of where you're from. No more of that, I was born here and raised here, bullshiz.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-08 at 15:11:30
All humanity needs is one goal. An immediate global threat, and we would unite. Uniting under one government could just fark it up more. Rome had the power to take over most of the known world, and they did. They gave their citizens rights and eventually became corrupt. As it turns out, we became corrupt before we took over the world.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-01-08 at 16:44:57
Rome was corrupt the year it was founded. This includes all governments. All governments are corrupt. It's extremely rare to find a time when a government was not corrupt. Maybe even impossible.

Us uniting under one government would not fark us up even more. It would do the opposite. This I'm sure of. We will need a common enemy of course. We will always be able to get everyone into thinking a civil war is nearby.

And if the government does infact become a facist government, parts of the world will refuse it, and form together. Creating a civil war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-01-08 at 17:59:36
QUOTE(Loser_Musician @ Jan 8 2006, 01:44 PM)
Rome was corrupt the year it was founded. This includes all governments. All governments are corrupt. It's extremely rare to find a time when a government was not corrupt. Maybe even impossible.

Us uniting under one government would not fark us up even more. It would do the opposite. This I'm sure of. We will need a common enemy of course. We will always be able to get everyone into thinking a civil war is nearby.

And if the government does infact become a facist government, parts of the world will refuse it, and form together. Creating a civil war.
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Define corrupt in your opinion

Corrupt as in the people in the government want to rule thier country with an iron fist?

explain becuase there could be levels and extremes of corruption.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-08 at 19:48:20
Look at the United States Government, and how it is ran: On lies.

That's what corrupt is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-01-08 at 19:50:16
freedom of speech,

thats a lie

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-01-08 at 19:56:56
Corruption is placing your own needs above that of the population's. LM is right about there never being a government that wasn't corrupt. Politicians that care more about their people than themselves are extremely rare. Of course, that's just the way life is. Your own survival comes before that of others in most cases.
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