Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-09 at 20:18:37
QUOTE(dumbducky @ Jan 9 2006, 02:04 PM)
So a few soldiers himiliate some prisoners and suddenly all of the American troops stationed at prisons are torturing their prisoners?
That happened two years ago(or was it 3?) and those responsible were punished.
So don't say we torture our prisoners.
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That happened two years ago(or was it 3?) and those responsible were punished.
So don't say we torture our prisoners.
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Oh my friend, but we do. The world does not look at the actions of an individual, they look at the actions of the United States as a whole. They could care less if one or two individuals did it, it's the fact that the United States allowed it, is what the world cares about.
So yeah. We torture our prisoners.
QUOTE(Mp)Cloud @ Jan 9 2006, 04:51 PM)
agreed.
no now your just being what your username is, dumb. your taking his meaning in a very brainless way.
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no now your just being what your username is, dumb. your taking his meaning in a very brainless way.
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Okay, whitie.. The flame was uncalled for, so why do it?
He is ignorant of the real world, just as is you, due to age on both your parts. The real world is not a candy-coated sugar-filled ride, as you younguns think it is.
The world = shiz.
The world = Biased
The world = shiz.
The world = Opinionated
Oh, btw... Did I mention the world = shiz?
EDIT: MA... You pretty much changed is flame into a subtle flame... Wtf? "You're taking his meaning in a very brainless way?"
To me, that's more of a flame than the word: Dumb.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-01-09 at 20:24:32
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So don't say we torture our prisoners.
Are you completely brainless, or just a little? I'm not too sure at the moment of which.
You follow this government with blind patriotism. You remind me of those people who scream and yell during the 2-minutes hate in the book 1984.
We fly suspected (a.k.a. anyone who doesn't cooporate) half way around the world to secret (well not secret anymore) prison holdings where we torture them for information. For 1, extraditing without warrent is illegal, 2 torturing is illegal, and 3 we kept it secret. For all of Bush's crimes, there has been at least things we could impeach him for. But as it is, corporations rule the world, and the house/senate/congress are republican majority. Oh god someone please get him a monica so we can impeach him!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-09 at 21:32:18
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
A Monica, that's hillarious!
To bad she was sent in there to purposly do that..
Fuggin conservatives.
A Monica, that's hillarious!
To bad she was sent in there to purposly do that..
Fuggin conservatives.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by re_casper on 2006-01-09 at 23:22:54
No comment because there were some good things he did. very little but some. If not attacking those who attacked us was not a good reason to go with war in Iraq was not good then I dont know what is, however, I believe that it could have been a one night job. One day of the Army. We could have crushed them ages ago, and cleaned up a bunch of terrorists... but... ya. Saddum Huisain was quite insane. As insane as Hitler, though Hitler had a reason for killing Jews, to purify his race, Saddam doesnt have any reason to kill his own people using toxic gases. His reason was as sacrifices.
Another things I think that Suddam should have been taken out was because he practiced demon worship. He was rebuilding the Tower of Babel because he believed that it can 'reach to the heavens' but not like sky heaven, more like spirit world. Demon worship is quite real and freaks me out... so I beleive that he shouldnt be ruler. (talk about seperation of religeon and state)
Another things I think that Suddam should have been taken out was because he practiced demon worship. He was rebuilding the Tower of Babel because he believed that it can 'reach to the heavens' but not like sky heaven, more like spirit world. Demon worship is quite real and freaks me out... so I beleive that he shouldnt be ruler. (talk about seperation of religeon and state)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-10 at 02:58:54
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If not attacking those who attacked us was not a good reason to go with war in Iraq was not good then I dont know what is
Iraq (pre second gulf war):
- never murdered an American citizen (civilian)
- never attacked America
- never threatened to attack America
Report, edit, etc...Posted by re_casper on 2006-01-12 at 00:15:25
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jan 9 2006, 11:58 PM)
Iraq (pre second gulf war):
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- never murdered an American citizen (civilian)
- never attacked America
- never threatened to attack America
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If attacking those who ATTACKED us as in 9/11 because that was an all out attack. Not an accident... unless if 5 idiot plane pilot crewmen were drinking then ya... but i do not think so...
I said that going after bin laden was a good idea. except that we could have done it in a day... I am fully confident that they wouldnt be suspecting it and they wouldnt be able to respond fast enough. But staying in Iraq for so friggin long was not a good idea... asking for help from Saddum Huisain was quite dumb as well... If bin laden was in the mountains, find him... duh... that is what i meant... however, the Iraqi government did not want us to be in any part of their land which meant that we could not get Bin Laden without upsetting saddam. so then we had to take out Saddam before going OR forget about saddam and go in and find the terrorists which I would have said was fine. Iraqi never murdered Americans... but Iraqi murdered Iraqi...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-12 at 00:50:52
well the places that bin laden could of gone to was like ethiopia, egypt, iran, pakistan or something like those few countries. bin laden is smart enough not to stay in afganistan so why the hell were we looking for him in the mountains?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by re_casper on 2006-01-12 at 00:56:56
because we believe that he is in the mountains somewhere... also remember your geography... if he is ethiopia, he crossed water and several countries... iran and pakistan are next to afghanistan. who knows where he went. The problem now is that we have no idea of where they are now. but a few years ago... we figured it out and traced them to iraq...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-12 at 01:45:49
he set up bases in egypt. so he has ties with the countrys inhabitance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-13 at 02:37:43
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If attacking those who ATTACKED us as in 9/11 because that was an all out attack.
Iraq had no part in attacking America on September 11.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-13 at 23:55:03
QUOTE(Mp)Cloud @ Jan 9 2006, 11:51 PM)
MA edit: Don't flame, or you will be warned. Thanks 
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i still said it in a nice way
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 10 2006, 01:18 AM)
Okay, whitie.. The flame was uncalled for, so why do it?
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excuse me but i take "whitie" as a rasist comment.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-14 at 03:25:42
Whitie is a "racist" comment?
Look at a new members name. The color is white; Thus, Whitie = New member = noob/newbie
How in the hell do you get racism from that?
Whatever.. You're a greyie/greenie, and always will be one.
Noob.
No spam please.
Look at a new members name. The color is white; Thus, Whitie = New member = noob/newbie
How in the hell do you get racism from that?
Whatever.. You're a greyie/greenie, and always will be one.
Noob.
No spam please.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-01-15 at 01:14:02
I'm far more concerned with the economy than with this terrorism stuff. Don't get me wrong, it's not just the terrorism stuff that is digging us deeper into debt. Not only has Bush wasted all of our money (and even all of the money that we didn't have to begin with), but he's going to ruin the next few administrations as they desperately try to reduce the deficit.
Bush is an oil mogul, so I'm surprised he "supports" Hydrogen fuel cell technology. I bet it's just a front so that there is not even more public outrage. I suppose one of his advisors figured out that there was actually no evidence supporting oil.
America, not I, has now elected, as others have so gracefully put it, a puppet - a weak minded imbecile incapable of sentient thought past bodily functions and basic communication skills. Why waste all of these materials and troops and this time and effort into making Iraq a puppet nation of America? The Middle East is a desolate wasteland empty save for one thing - oil. What else is there to be had there? The fact remains that, although we may receive oil for a decade or even two yet, technology is about to take one huge step forward. I say leave Iraq, for it will only serve to bring us down.
Bush is an oil mogul, so I'm surprised he "supports" Hydrogen fuel cell technology. I bet it's just a front so that there is not even more public outrage. I suppose one of his advisors figured out that there was actually no evidence supporting oil.
America, not I, has now elected, as others have so gracefully put it, a puppet - a weak minded imbecile incapable of sentient thought past bodily functions and basic communication skills. Why waste all of these materials and troops and this time and effort into making Iraq a puppet nation of America? The Middle East is a desolate wasteland empty save for one thing - oil. What else is there to be had there? The fact remains that, although we may receive oil for a decade or even two yet, technology is about to take one huge step forward. I say leave Iraq, for it will only serve to bring us down.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2006-01-15 at 01:53:13
don't know why mine had to be closed. but i guess i should have posted my point here. If any 1 is interesting here is my oppinion once again.
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This is just an oppinion if you will of many people i know. Bush is becoming a dictator. A really bad thing that is going on right now is that the supreme court is now made up of 5 republican leaders. Funny? How they all Know bush? so that causes lots of problems. No democrats.. Also the whole bush is listening in on out conversations on e-mails, phones etc. Is stupid. He can't be held back. and he can just use the republican Court.. Mine as well be called that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-15 at 22:24:39
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Look at a new members name. The color is white; Thus, Whitie = New member = noob/newbie
* = noob/newbie = flame. So stop.
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This is just an oppinion if you will of many people i know. The Republican Party is becoming an dictator oligarchy. A really bad thing that is going on right now is that the supreme court is now made up of 5 republican leaders. Funny? How they all Know bush? so that causes lots of problems. No democrats.. Also the whole bush is listening in on out conversations on e-mails, phones etc. Is stupid. He can't be held back. and he can just use the republican Court.. Mine as well be called that.
Bush doesn't have the brains or interest to become a dictator. He's a puppet.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carlsagan43 on 2006-01-15 at 22:52:57
Bush is doing fine. Bush was right about Iraq having illegal weapons so i dont see what you're complaining about.
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You want to talk about Iraq, here we go, Why did we invade Iraq? Well I can give you a few reasons, lets see:
UNSCR 678 - November 29, 1990
* Iraq must comply fully with UNSCR 660 (regarding Iraq's illegal invasion of Kuwait) "and all subsequent relevant resolutions."
* Authorizes UN Member States "to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area."
UNSCR 686 - March 2, 1991
* Iraq must release prisoners detained during the Gulf War.
* Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
* Iraq must accept liability under international law for damages from its illegal invasion of Kuwait.
UNSCR 687 - April 3, 1991
* Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities."
* Iraq must "unconditionally agree not to acquire or develop nuclear weapons or nuclear-weapons-usable material" or any research, development or manufacturing facilities.
* Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 KM and related major parts and repair and production facilities."
* Iraq must not "use, develop, construct or acquire" any weapons of mass destruction.
* Iraq must reaffirm its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
* Creates the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) to verify the elimination of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons programs and mandated that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) verify elimination of Iraq's nuclear weapons program.
* Iraq must declare fully its weapons of mass destruction programs.
* Iraq must not commit or support terrorism, or allow terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq.
* Iraq must cooperate in accounting for the missing and dead Kuwaitis and others.
* Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
UNSCR 688 - April 5, 1991
* "Condemns" repression of Iraqi civilian population, "the consequences of which threaten international peace and security."
* Iraq must immediately end repression of its civilian population.
* Iraq must allow immediate access to international humanitarian organizations to those in need of assistance.
UNSCR 707 - August 15, 1991
* "Condemns" Iraq's "serious violation" of UNSCR 687.
* "Further condemns" Iraq's noncompliance with IAEA and its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
* Iraq must halt nuclear activities of all kinds until the Security Council deems Iraq in full compliance.
* Iraq must make a full, final and complete disclosure of all aspects of its weapons of mass destruction and missile programs.
* Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must cease attempts to conceal or move weapons of mass destruction, and related materials and facilities.
* Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors to conduct inspection flights throughout Iraq.
* Iraq must provide transportation, medical and logistical support for UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 715 - October 11, 1991
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 949 - October 15, 1994
* "Condemns" Iraq's recent military deployments toward Kuwait.
* Iraq must not utilize its military or other forces in a hostile manner to threaten its neighbors or UN operations in Iraq.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors.
* Iraq must not enhance its military capability in southern Iraq.
UNSCR 1051 - March 27, 1996
* Iraq must report shipments of dual-use items related to weapons of mass destruction to the UN and IAEA.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1060 - June 12, 1996
* "Deplores" Iraq's refusal to allow access to UN inspectors and Iraq's "clear violations" of previous UN resolutions.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1115 - June 21, 1997
* "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "clear and flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
UNSCR 1134 - October 23, 1997
* "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
UNSCR 1137 - November 12, 1997
* "Condemns the continued violations by Iraq" of previous UN resolutions, including its "implicit threat to the safety of" aircraft operated by UN inspectors and its tampering with UN inspector monitoring equipment.
* Reaffirms Iraq's responsibility to ensure the safety of UN inspectors.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1154 - March 2, 1998
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access, and notes that any violation would have the "severest consequences for Iraq."
UNSCR 1194 - September 9, 1998
* "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 5 August 1998 to suspend cooperation with" UN and IAEA inspectors, which constitutes "a totally unacceptable contravention" of its obligations under UNSCR 687, 707, 715, 1060, 1115, and 1154.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors, and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1205 - November 5, 1998
* "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 31 October 1998 to cease cooperation" with UN inspectors as "a flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687 and other resolutions.
* Iraq must provide "immediate, complete and unconditional cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 1284 - December 17, 1999
* Created the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) to replace previous weapon inspection team (UNSCOM).
* Iraq must allow UNMOVIC "immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access" to Iraqi officials and facilities.
* Iraq must fulfill its commitment to return Gulf War prisoners.
* Calls on Iraq to distribute humanitarian goods and medical supplies to its people and address the needs of vulnerable Iraqis without discrimination.
Additional UN Security Council Statements
In addition to the legally binding UNSCRs, the UN Security Council has also issued at least 30 statements from the President of the UN Security Council regarding Saddam Hussein's continued violations of UNSCRs. The list of statements includes:
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 28, 1991
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 5, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 19, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 28, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 6, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 11, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 12, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, April 10, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 17, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, July 6, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, September 2, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 23, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 24, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 8, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 11, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 18, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 28, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 23, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, October 8, 1994
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 19, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 14, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, August 23, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 30, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 13, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, October 29, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 13, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 3, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 22, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 14, 1998
He Violated every one of those UN resolutions. So in light of that they passed this:
UNSCR 1441 - November 8, 2002
Found that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its disarmament obligations.
Gave Iraq a final opportunity to comply.
Demanded that Iraq submit a currently accurate, full and complete declaration of its weapons of mass destruction and related programs within 30 days.
Demanded that Iraq cooperate immediately, unconditionally and actively with the UN inspections.
Decided that false statements or omissions in Iraq's declarations and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with and cooperate fully in the implementation of this resolution would constitute further material breach.
Recalls that the Security Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations.
Which guess what, he again did not follow. What else were we supposed to do about it? Obviously this was not working. Eventually you gotta come down with an Iron fist.
Lets move on, shall we? Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11, okay he may not have, but the Iraqi government sure helped out the people who planned it, and last time I checked, Saddam was at the helm of the Iraq govt then.
Do you know who Ahmed Hikmat Shakir is? He was an Iaqi Intelligence operative who took care of a 9/11 hijacker in Malaysia and was in attendance at the Kuala Lampur meeting with two of the hijackers, and other conspirators, at what is believed to be the initial 9/11 planning session in January 2000
Mohammed Atta and Saddam met in the Czech in 2000. This has not been denied by the Czech govt.
Abu Musab Zarqawi went to Iraq in 2001 after being injured in a battle with US forces.
Ayman Zawahiri was living in Iraq, from as far back as 1992 and sometime in the late 90's received a lot of money from Saddam.
How about Abdul Rahman Yasin, yeah the 1993 World Trade Center guy, he was granted sanctuary in Iraq from 1993 on.
Saddam even labeled Osamma as an Arab and Islamic hero after the embassy bombings in 1998.
Salman Pak… which was an Iraqi run terrorist camp where you could learn many tactics, including Hijacking…
George Tenet's letter to congress in 2002 that said "Our understanding of the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda is evolving and is based on sources of varying reliability. Some of the information we have received comes from detainees, including some of high rank"
Seized Iraq Intelligence Service records indicating that Saddam's henchmen regarded bin Laden as an asset as early as 1992?
Yes the invasion of Iraq was somewhat personal, I cannot deny that, but it was all just, that's for sure.
As for the Iraqi people's opinion, well the majority of the folk I spoke to in Iraq are so happy we helped em out. Men wait in line for literally days to try and join the Police and the Army.
Ahh yes the Iraqi army, did you know than all members of the Iraqi army wear masks when they are on patrols, that's so someone doesn't see them, and kill their family if they recognize them, but there are people watching them go to work and such, they are risking a lot just by doing that. I can tell you from personal experience, those guys are some of the most dedicated people I have seen in my life. They are trying to make an impact, they want a free Iraq, as does pretty much everyone else.
UNSCR 678 - November 29, 1990
* Iraq must comply fully with UNSCR 660 (regarding Iraq's illegal invasion of Kuwait) "and all subsequent relevant resolutions."
* Authorizes UN Member States "to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area."
UNSCR 686 - March 2, 1991
* Iraq must release prisoners detained during the Gulf War.
* Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
* Iraq must accept liability under international law for damages from its illegal invasion of Kuwait.
UNSCR 687 - April 3, 1991
* Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities."
* Iraq must "unconditionally agree not to acquire or develop nuclear weapons or nuclear-weapons-usable material" or any research, development or manufacturing facilities.
* Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 KM and related major parts and repair and production facilities."
* Iraq must not "use, develop, construct or acquire" any weapons of mass destruction.
* Iraq must reaffirm its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
* Creates the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) to verify the elimination of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons programs and mandated that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) verify elimination of Iraq's nuclear weapons program.
* Iraq must declare fully its weapons of mass destruction programs.
* Iraq must not commit or support terrorism, or allow terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq.
* Iraq must cooperate in accounting for the missing and dead Kuwaitis and others.
* Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
UNSCR 688 - April 5, 1991
* "Condemns" repression of Iraqi civilian population, "the consequences of which threaten international peace and security."
* Iraq must immediately end repression of its civilian population.
* Iraq must allow immediate access to international humanitarian organizations to those in need of assistance.
UNSCR 707 - August 15, 1991
* "Condemns" Iraq's "serious violation" of UNSCR 687.
* "Further condemns" Iraq's noncompliance with IAEA and its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
* Iraq must halt nuclear activities of all kinds until the Security Council deems Iraq in full compliance.
* Iraq must make a full, final and complete disclosure of all aspects of its weapons of mass destruction and missile programs.
* Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must cease attempts to conceal or move weapons of mass destruction, and related materials and facilities.
* Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors to conduct inspection flights throughout Iraq.
* Iraq must provide transportation, medical and logistical support for UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 715 - October 11, 1991
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 949 - October 15, 1994
* "Condemns" Iraq's recent military deployments toward Kuwait.
* Iraq must not utilize its military or other forces in a hostile manner to threaten its neighbors or UN operations in Iraq.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors.
* Iraq must not enhance its military capability in southern Iraq.
UNSCR 1051 - March 27, 1996
* Iraq must report shipments of dual-use items related to weapons of mass destruction to the UN and IAEA.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1060 - June 12, 1996
* "Deplores" Iraq's refusal to allow access to UN inspectors and Iraq's "clear violations" of previous UN resolutions.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1115 - June 21, 1997
* "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "clear and flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
UNSCR 1134 - October 23, 1997
* "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
UNSCR 1137 - November 12, 1997
* "Condemns the continued violations by Iraq" of previous UN resolutions, including its "implicit threat to the safety of" aircraft operated by UN inspectors and its tampering with UN inspector monitoring equipment.
* Reaffirms Iraq's responsibility to ensure the safety of UN inspectors.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1154 - March 2, 1998
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access, and notes that any violation would have the "severest consequences for Iraq."
UNSCR 1194 - September 9, 1998
* "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 5 August 1998 to suspend cooperation with" UN and IAEA inspectors, which constitutes "a totally unacceptable contravention" of its obligations under UNSCR 687, 707, 715, 1060, 1115, and 1154.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors, and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1205 - November 5, 1998
* "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 31 October 1998 to cease cooperation" with UN inspectors as "a flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687 and other resolutions.
* Iraq must provide "immediate, complete and unconditional cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 1284 - December 17, 1999
* Created the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) to replace previous weapon inspection team (UNSCOM).
* Iraq must allow UNMOVIC "immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access" to Iraqi officials and facilities.
* Iraq must fulfill its commitment to return Gulf War prisoners.
* Calls on Iraq to distribute humanitarian goods and medical supplies to its people and address the needs of vulnerable Iraqis without discrimination.
Additional UN Security Council Statements
In addition to the legally binding UNSCRs, the UN Security Council has also issued at least 30 statements from the President of the UN Security Council regarding Saddam Hussein's continued violations of UNSCRs. The list of statements includes:
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 28, 1991
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 5, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 19, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 28, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 6, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 11, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 12, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, April 10, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 17, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, July 6, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, September 2, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 23, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 24, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 8, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 11, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 18, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 28, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 23, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, October 8, 1994
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 19, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 14, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, August 23, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 30, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 13, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, October 29, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 13, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 3, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 22, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 14, 1998
He Violated every one of those UN resolutions. So in light of that they passed this:
UNSCR 1441 - November 8, 2002
Found that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its disarmament obligations.
Gave Iraq a final opportunity to comply.
Demanded that Iraq submit a currently accurate, full and complete declaration of its weapons of mass destruction and related programs within 30 days.
Demanded that Iraq cooperate immediately, unconditionally and actively with the UN inspections.
Decided that false statements or omissions in Iraq's declarations and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with and cooperate fully in the implementation of this resolution would constitute further material breach.
Recalls that the Security Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations.
Which guess what, he again did not follow. What else were we supposed to do about it? Obviously this was not working. Eventually you gotta come down with an Iron fist.
Lets move on, shall we? Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11, okay he may not have, but the Iraqi government sure helped out the people who planned it, and last time I checked, Saddam was at the helm of the Iraq govt then.
Do you know who Ahmed Hikmat Shakir is? He was an Iaqi Intelligence operative who took care of a 9/11 hijacker in Malaysia and was in attendance at the Kuala Lampur meeting with two of the hijackers, and other conspirators, at what is believed to be the initial 9/11 planning session in January 2000
Mohammed Atta and Saddam met in the Czech in 2000. This has not been denied by the Czech govt.
Abu Musab Zarqawi went to Iraq in 2001 after being injured in a battle with US forces.
Ayman Zawahiri was living in Iraq, from as far back as 1992 and sometime in the late 90's received a lot of money from Saddam.
How about Abdul Rahman Yasin, yeah the 1993 World Trade Center guy, he was granted sanctuary in Iraq from 1993 on.
Saddam even labeled Osamma as an Arab and Islamic hero after the embassy bombings in 1998.
Salman Pak… which was an Iraqi run terrorist camp where you could learn many tactics, including Hijacking…
George Tenet's letter to congress in 2002 that said "Our understanding of the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda is evolving and is based on sources of varying reliability. Some of the information we have received comes from detainees, including some of high rank"
Seized Iraq Intelligence Service records indicating that Saddam's henchmen regarded bin Laden as an asset as early as 1992?
Yes the invasion of Iraq was somewhat personal, I cannot deny that, but it was all just, that's for sure.
As for the Iraqi people's opinion, well the majority of the folk I spoke to in Iraq are so happy we helped em out. Men wait in line for literally days to try and join the Police and the Army.
Ahh yes the Iraqi army, did you know than all members of the Iraqi army wear masks when they are on patrols, that's so someone doesn't see them, and kill their family if they recognize them, but there are people watching them go to work and such, they are risking a lot just by doing that. I can tell you from personal experience, those guys are some of the most dedicated people I have seen in my life. They are trying to make an impact, they want a free Iraq, as does pretty much everyone else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-16 at 00:09:47
So it's our job to enforce somebody else's rules?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carlsagan43 on 2006-01-16 at 00:36:29
By not enforcing the rules, we put our selves in a greater danger than if we made a small sacrifice now for a gain later on.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-16 at 01:02:44
where exactly are the weapons of mass destruction?
America should of kept out of other countries. we train foriegn powers and supply them just so we can go and invade thier country. this has happend with afganistan and iraq.
Saddam was no threat to us.
America should of kept out of other countries. we train foriegn powers and supply them just so we can go and invade thier country. this has happend with afganistan and iraq.
Saddam was no threat to us.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kookster on 2006-01-16 at 04:14:54
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Jan 15 2006, 11:02 PM)
where exactly are the weapons of mass destruction?
America should of kept out of other countries. we train foriegn powers and supply them just so we can go and invade thier country. this has happend with afganistan and iraq.
Saddam was no threat to us.
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America should of kept out of other countries. we train foriegn powers and supply them just so we can go and invade thier country. this has happend with afganistan and iraq.
Saddam was no threat to us.
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Saddam was a evil man he killed thousands of his own people, it was a freaking dictatorship over there, and cmon guys we all know bush sucks at speaches it wasnt just weapons of mass destruction that were illegal for them to have, but any form that can go a long ass distance, able to carry anything biological etc etc, overall bush did his job, BUT Yes he darn right isnt perfect thats for sure, but i think he sure hell did a better job than kerry would of. And stop believing the media serious people the american media is twisted truth serious!!!! dont believe it and dont go assuming so fast actaully study something before you go assuming besides it makes for way more intersting conversations.
Peace by Guns not by Chemicals
Starcraft counterstrike anyone???
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-16 at 05:00:07
the presidency doesnt not include invading other countries because the ruler is an evil man. nor does it include having to interfere in other countries buisnesses. there are a lot of evil rulers why dont we just attack half of the world?
not all dictatorships are bad. a dictatorship is when an individual has complete power over a country. there are good rulers and then there are bad rulers. guess which one saddam was?
not all dictatorships are bad. a dictatorship is when an individual has complete power over a country. there are good rulers and then there are bad rulers. guess which one saddam was?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carlsagan43 on 2006-01-16 at 09:31:44
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where exactly are the weapons of mass destruction?
America should of kept out of other countries. we train foriegn powers and supply them just so we can go and invade thier country. this has happend with afganistan and iraq.
Saddam was no threat to us.
America should of kept out of other countries. we train foriegn powers and supply them just so we can go and invade thier country. this has happend with afganistan and iraq.
Saddam was no threat to us.
Perhaps if you will remember on the day we declared war on Iraq, the first thing that happened was that one of our battle ships launched a missile at one of the locations that saddam was thought to be at. In return, they launched a SCUD missile back at the ship but was destroyed before it got there. Iraq was NOT supposed to have long range SCUD missiles, which vindicates the whole war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-01-16 at 10:22:44
That doesn't vindicate crap. A long range missile is not a WMD, depending on what type of warhead it carries.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carlsagan43 on 2006-01-16 at 10:54:40
So you are saying it was okay for them to have illegal weapons? I didn't say anything about WMDs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2006-01-16 at 11:35:45
Who said yes? Don't they see the corruption and the iraqiness. Who can say he's doing his job. It's like because of him the US is hated so much.