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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kenoli on 2006-01-12 at 23:43:57
We all judged the maps fairly. Any bias exists strictly in your imagination.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 5(U) on 2006-01-12 at 23:46:48
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jan 12 2006, 11:35 PM)
I thought this tournament was a very fair one compared to those that we have seen in the past.

I hate those map tournaments which make things like Complexity or something else like huge chunks out of a map score. They don't focus enough on the important things, like fun factor, originality, etc.
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Mill army understands all
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-12 at 23:51:59
QUOTE(Kenoli @ Jan 12 2006, 10:43 PM)
We all judged the maps fairly. Any bias exists strictly in your imagination.
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You may have not realized you biasts, that's natural.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 5(U) on 2006-01-12 at 23:52:59
QUOTE(Nano_ @ Jan 12 2006, 11:51 PM)
You may have not realized you biasts, that's natural.
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stop dodging my pm plz
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2006-01-13 at 00:03:31
Told you SEN has gone to crap since Yoshi left. The Mods are crazy and show favortism and let (U) control the voting. Any common man in his right mind would only allow those who show the least Biased in the forums to be Judges. It just goes to show that even those who are supposed to be leaders do not think at all. Personally I thought both the Maps suck but in the least sucking Vics sucked the least. First off Joker's map was far from Innovation I have seen many a things like it. Vic's was not as innovative either so naturally you can not call either of them innovative. As for the fun factor, they both sucked to me. I say we find Unbiased Judges and have a re-polling. I mean those from the Regulars section that are unbiased. As for you Kenoli you are the most biased person I have ever talked to. You think Defences are the shiz why Diplo's which are more innovative than any of the defences are crap. That my friend is being Biased.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-01-13 at 00:11:11
i think the people found a loophole. ermm.gif
not all the global mods and administrators are not even posting their oppinions about the rigged map making contest.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 5(U) on 2006-01-13 at 00:30:16
QUOTE(Oo.Bringer.oO @ Jan 13 2006, 12:03 AM)
Told you SEN has gone to crap since Yoshi left. The Mods are crazy and show favortism and let (U) control the voting. Any common man in his right man would only allow those who show the least Biased in the forums to be Judges. It just goes to show that even those who are supposed to be leaders do not think at all. Personally I thought both the Maps suck but in the least sucking Vics sucked the least. First off Joker's map was far from Innovation I have seen many a things like it. Vic's was not as innovative either so naturally you can not call either of them innovative. As for the fun factor, they both sucked to me. I say we find Unbiased Judges and have a re-polling. I mean those from the Regulars section that are unbiased. As for you Kenoli you are the most biased person I have ever talked to. You think Defences are the shiz why Diplo's which are more innovative than any of the defences are crap. That my friend is being Biased.
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OMG OMG WE ARE SCREWED!! THEY WILL ALL GET US WE ARE GOING TO BE ROBOTS MIND CONTROLED BY SEN's MODS OMG OMG OMG NOOOO GOD PLEASE SAVE US!!!!

/sarcasm

EDIT: robots, not rebots
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-01-13 at 00:41:11
QUOTE(5(U) @ Jan 13 2006, 12:30 AM)
OMG OMG WE ARE SCREWED!! THEY WILL ALL GET US WE ARE GOING TO BE ROBOTS MIND CONTROLED BY SEN's MODS OMG OMG OMG NOOOO GOD PLEASE SAVE US!!!!

/sarcasm

EDIT: robots, not rebots
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im sorry to say, that was the worst sarcasm i seen this year. sorry.gif

but yea......... major loophole
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-13 at 02:35:57
er... maybe next time we should have it equal judges from each of the clans? or judges without clans?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Ordinary.oO on 2006-01-13 at 07:15:29
Yeah, or if its a competion for fun maps not hard to make maps we could get random ppl from b-net o.O
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2006-01-13 at 07:27:45
QUOTE(Nano_ @ Jan 12 2006, 10:18 PM)
The last thing we need is another (U) Member trying to explain what happened.
The thing is this contest wasn't just, and was full of biased opinions.
You can stand up for what you think, but the point is, if a clan member is going to judge a fellow clan member, the opinions are going to be biased, whether the judge is aware of it or not.

The facts are it was a (U) hosted contest judged by (U) members with a (U) winner.

Almost everyone here except (U) members who have posted so far think that vic's map was better.

The last thing the (U) judges want to do is let a "rival" clan win a contest against one of their members, this is why, having clan judges judge a fellow clan member's map is a bad idea.
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You would have said differently if Vic had won. How amusing of you. Why didn't you complain of this supposed "biased" before the tournament?

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You may have not realized you biasts, that's natural.


Just like how you're naturally biased that you want your fellow clan members to win?

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Vic's upgrade defense incorporated a truly unique menu system and unit creation based on what unit you select in the menu.


The dropship system is not "truely unique". It has been incorporated into many other maps, so in no way can you tag it off as something brilliant.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2006-01-13 at 07:53:43
It's biased, not biast.

I haven't played either map, I'm not going to make an uninformed opinion.

It's just a contest for some bragging rights and imaginary money. Hell, Vic's map got 2nd place. I don't see what you're complaining about.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2006-01-13 at 08:01:09
Vic losing to a supposely "worse" map.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2006-01-13 at 12:46:54
I'm not in (U), I thought Joker had the better map. Though not by much, mind you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2006-01-13 at 14:02:31
This reminds me of the olympics, the boxing, the races, the gambling, the everything.

Idiots fuel this fire. Idiots continue to fan the flames. Idiots continue to cry about some stupid contest result.

I fail to see what difference it makes if Oo won or U won. Heck, after this contest I didn't even give a hoot which person won or cared at all (the reward wasn't even that big a deal). What superiority contest is there? I dislike how Oo fails to get their pride out of this argument. If Vic won over Joker im sure that the U members wouldn't have made such a big deal anyway. Nobody made a big deal out of this... until solar jumped up like that loose hair on alfalpha's head and said something without good purpose and reason. Solar is just being ignorant of what happened. He never thinks about what hes saying beyond his little clan. The judges judged on a fair scale. If it were rigged id definitely see some 4.0's out there... where there?

This contest was for fun. Im glad the Oo people know how to have fun. [/sarcasm]

Contests are based on opinion anyways. To debate on how an opinion is rigged... is just plain stupid.

Accept a loss, or lose the war.

I don't see vic mad about this... do you?

Overall, good job solar, you are doing great work at tacking the final nails in the Oo's coffin.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2006-01-13 at 14:30:18
He won you lost get over it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2006-01-13 at 14:52:13
Wow Red2Blue you kiss the butt of all the admins here so it is only natural that you side with (U). I said both maps sucked. I honestly feel that maybe Rantent should have won but due to the biased opinions of both Oo and (U) he did not. Good day and next time have better judges.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2006-01-13 at 15:21:55
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Wow Red2Blue you kiss the butt of all the admins here so it is only natural that you side with (U). I said both maps sucked. I honestly feel that maybe Rantent should have won but due to the biased opinions of both Oo and (U) he did not. Good day and next time have better judges.

I didn't kiss any butt.

See there you guys? This is a good example of opinion. Clearly I was talking on my own tangent, but Bringer thought I was siding. Nothing I can do about it. Words just seem to be biased like that just like decisions. I never side on one side, I side with the right side (the side that isn't between the two, but somewhere beyond the two).

Picture:
QUOTE(its picture time!)
Oo side

(Im right here)

(U) side


I personally liked the scarab idea. I glitched it beyond all glitches but it works okay now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-01-13 at 17:45:53
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QUOTE(its picture time!)
Oo side

(Im right here)

(U) side

i wonder were Mp) goes mellow.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ares on 2006-01-13 at 17:50:17
(U)

aEp

Oo

[MM]









Mp)

Right about there...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-01-13 at 17:59:07
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(U)

aEp

Oo


                                     
                                                      [MM] bye1.gif






Mp)


Nah, we're off in our own little world. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2006-01-13 at 19:12:08
QUOTE(Red2Blue @ Jan 13 2006, 02:02 PM)
This reminds me of the olympics, the boxing, the races, the gambling, the everything.

Idiots fuel this fire. Idiots continue to fan the flames. Idiots continue to cry about some stupid contest result.

I fail to see what difference it makes if Oo won or U won. Heck, after this contest I didn't even give a hoot which person won or cared at all (the reward wasn't even that big a deal).  What superiority contest is there? I dislike how Oo fails to get their pride out of this argument. If Vic won over Joker im sure that the U members wouldn't have made such a big deal anyway. Nobody made a big deal out of this... until solar jumped up like  that loose hair on alfalpha's head and said something without  good purpose and reason. Solar is just being ignorant of what happened. He never thinks about what hes saying beyond his little clan. The judges judged on a fair scale. If it were rigged id definitely see some 4.0's out there... where there?

This contest was for fun. Im glad the Oo people know how to have fun. [/sarcasm]

Contests are based on opinion anyways. To debate on how an opinion is rigged... is just plain stupid.

Accept a loss, or lose the war.

I don't see vic mad about this... do you?

Overall, good job solar, you are doing great work at tacking the final nails in the Oo's coffin.
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Your not siding yet your basically saying Oo is wrong in every aspect. So is that not siding with (U)? Wow, you try to use alot of words to hide the intent of your posts. To be non-biased you can not beleive in right or wrong. Yet you insist that (U) was right so you side with them. That is being Biased sorry to tell you Red2Blue. Did I say I was not using my opinion? I am whole heartly using my opinion and am being biased towards both clans but mainly towards this sites system for being so damn flawed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-13 at 19:18:31
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 12 2006, 10:09 PM)
HOW IS THIS A farkING SERIOUS DISCUSSION!

EURO'S POLICE FORCE IS MORE SERIOUS THAN THIS, WTF!

This spammious thread does not deserve SERIOUSness -_-
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spam detected.


anyway, i think solar is right, this really needs to be re-thought out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SC_Bonus on 2006-01-13 at 19:58:45
Well it's their contest and they should be allowed to rig it in what ever they want
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ares on 2006-01-14 at 00:13:02
People need to stop grieving about this shiz.

It was a petty contest. Somebody won. Whether it was biased or not, who cares?
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