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Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-03-16 at 18:06:38
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The PS3 will fail.


Ehh no!

The graphics are better than Xbox 360's (Microsoft says they'd rather developers have an easier time devoloping games than worrying about graphics), plus it comes with blueray!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-16 at 18:12:53
Which really isn't going to be as useful as it seems. What game is 25 gbs? And PS3's debut prices will be a turn off from buyers. By that time XBox 360's price will have dropped too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-16 at 18:32:22
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Mar 16 2006, 06:12 PM)
Which really isn't going to be as useful as it seems. What game is 25 gbs? And PS3's debut prices will be a turn off from buyers. By that time XBox 360's price will have dropped too.
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You mean the price that hasn't been offically annouced and you have no idea what it is? Yeah I'm sure it will really turn people off with a ??? next to the price tag and you have to guess what it will cost.
Ps3 sure as hell won't fail. For one Ps2 was the ONLY console to make any profit from it's sales. It also has some big franchises under it's belt to help launch day be successful unlike Microsoft. A lot of XBox360 Launch games missed the launch, and world wide launch was annouced a month before the date was reached ending up in low stock for everyone. However Ps3 annouces world wide launch now, so the bugs are probably almost all picked out and they should start production of units at laest 4 months before release. Also with big name titles like Metal Gear Solid 4, Devil May Cry 4, Medal of Honor: Airborne and some other games at least the games will sell and be original unlike 73% of the 360's launch line up which was current gen games updated to Next Gen graphics with an extra $10 dollars on the price tag.

And the idea of getting a decent computer for today's gaming at $600 is BULLSHEET you can buy a really good video card for $600 dollars which is nice. But to fully upgrade your computer to high standards of today You're going to fork down a nice 1k at least. Getting more RAM on your computer, new video card, you may even need new speakers, if you're that old you might want to get a laser mouse, to get the full apperiation of gaming you'll have to get a real nice moniter which are already over priced. Along with a motherboard that can support whatever expesnive video card you got, and of course a DVD Drive and the games themselves. You can't get all that shiz in a $600 bundle pack.

Consoles are cheaper and if all you want to do is play video games then consoles are a lot better. There's also a bigger libary, unless you have an obession with RTS games.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-16 at 18:39:50
You obviously haven' been buying video cards recently. And you don't need a great monitor, that's like saying you need a good TV to play consoles. Trust me, to get a good gaming computer you won't have to pay as much money as you think. Most motherboard have PCI and PCIe slots, and it's not like they don't sell AGP video card anymore.

You can get a decent videocard for ~ $180 dollars or less. You can get a decent motherboard for $100 dollars, and so on.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-16 at 18:53:16
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Mar 16 2006, 06:39 PM)
You obviously haven' been buying video cards recently. And you don't need a great monitor, that's like saying you need a good TV to play consoles. Trust me, to get a good gaming computer you won't have to pay as much money as you think. Most motherboard have PCI and PCIe slots, and it's not like they don't sell AGP video card anymore.

I don't have to buy things recently in order to know what I'm talking about. I have a friend who works at customer service at some computer store. He gets paid to know what he's talking about. First off, by decent, I mean playing today's games on at least meduim settings. Also you don't HAVE to get a new moniter, but for high settings all the way you'd have to. Same with other things you listed. For decent today's gaming on meduim you'd have to blow out $1,200 dollars just for your equipment without even buying a game, and you'd have to pay that much again in 2-3 years when techonogly advances. And for high settings you'd have to pay $1,200-1,500 dollars only to upgrade it 4-5 years later.

You really don't know what you're talking about.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-16 at 18:58:00
You can play "today's games" on medium settings with 1gb ram, an AMD Athlon 3500+, and a decent video card that doesn't cost over $200 dollars. Those together don't cost that much. Maybe $600 dollars is a little too cheap, but no more than $800 dollars.

And you don't need a $300 dollar 19" LCD monitor. CRT's work fine. If we're going to add the price of the monitor to the computer, you can add the price of the TV to the console =\
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-16 at 19:13:55
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Mar 16 2006, 06:57 PM)
You can play "today's games" on medium settings with 1gb ram, an AMD Athlon 3500+, and a decent video card that doesn't cost over $200 dollars. Those together don't cost that much. Maybe $600 dollars is a little too cheap, but no more than $800 dollars.

If you can show me a link to any of the crap you're talking about that'd be great.

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And you don't need a $300 dollar 19" LCD monitor. CRT's work fine. If we're going to add the price of the monitor to the computer, you can add the price of the TV to the console =\
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I was talking about the fullest expirance from a PC (AKA High Settings)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-03-16 at 19:19:18
My old monitor was a 17 inch CRT, I got it for 65 or something dollars. Monitors don't make that big of a difference.


I've posted links on B.net.

AMD Athlon 3500+ = 2.2 ghz = ~ $210 dollars.

You can find 1gb of RAM for various prices, most cost in the $100 dollar or less range. And since you can have 512mb x 2, or 1gb straight, prices vary more.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-03-16 at 20:14:22
QUOTE(olaboy- @ Mar 16 2006, 06:06 PM)
Ehh no!

The graphics are better than Xbox 360's (Microsoft says they'd rather developers have an easier time devoloping games than worrying about graphics), plus it comes with blueray!
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X box will eventually be able to switch over to High definition dvds. Also, Sony has tried different types of things that have failed. For instance mini disk players. They were supposed to be the next big thing but, they failed miserably.

QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Mar 16 2006, 06:32 PM)
You mean the price that hasn't been offically annouced and you have no idea what it is? Yeah I'm sure it will really turn people off with a ??? next to the price tag and you have to guess what it will cost.
Ps3 sure as hell won't fail. For one Ps2 was the ONLY console to make any profit from it's sales. It also has some big franchises under it's belt to help launch day be successful unlike Microsoft. A lot of XBox360 Launch games missed the launch, and world wide launch was annouced a month before the date was reached ending up in low stock for everyone. However Ps3 annouces world wide launch now, so the bugs are probably almost all picked out and they should start production of units at laest 4 months before release. Also with big name titles like Metal Gear Solid 4, Devil May Cry 4, Medal of Honor: Airborne and some other games at least the games will sell and be original unlike 73% of the 360's launch line up which was current gen games updated to Next Gen graphics with an extra $10 dollars on the price tag.
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Bill Gates said he will throw money at x box wether it fails or is successful. Sony, on the other hand is not that fortuanate and is depending on the PS3 for it to remain a company. Part of the reason for that is because the iPod killed them. Xbox having a year release on Sony is a pretty big advantage. People might not want to wait a year for next gen and might get 360. Halo 3 will release when PS3 does. Their will be a Halo movie coming out (i think i heard that). Their will be a camera feature with 360 coming out. my topic about the camera
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2006-03-16 at 20:15:38
Nice job copying and pasting from another webpage without the source..

I might get it. We all know the playstation was the classic and will be the best.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-03-16 at 20:23:28
QUOTE(Merrell @ Mar 16 2006, 08:15 PM)
Nice job copying and pasting from another webpage without the source..

I might get it. We all know the playstation was the classic and will be the best.
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I copied and pasted? I'm lazy but I'm not that lazy. Why would i want to copy someones ideas anyway. I can think for myself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-16 at 20:24:01
QUOTE(n2o-SiMpSoNs @ Mar 16 2006, 08:14 PM)
X box will eventually be able to switch over to High definition dvds. Also, Sony has tried different types of things that have failed. For instance mini disk players. They were supposed to be the next big thing but, they failed miserably.

At least they didn't use it in there consoels (Cough)

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Bill Gates said he will throw money at x box wether it fails or is successful. Sony, on the other hand is not that fortuanate and is depending on the PS3 for it to remain a company. Part of the reason for that is because the iPod killed them.
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That's because Bill Gates makes 42$ a second. And has enough money to stop Hunger in the United States. But then he'd be broke smile.gif. And it just shows that the only reason there is an Xbox360 is because Bill Gates owns it, any other company would've failed and another xbox would not be released. They really lost a lot of money, Nintendo is still riding on all the profits they made way back when, and portables.

How did the Ipod kill the Playstation 2?
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Xbox having a year release on Sony is a pretty big advantage. People might not want to wait a year for next gen and might get 360.

That won't really matter seeing as how they are only really 8 months ahead of them since the first 3 months had barley any Xboxs in stock.
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Halo 3 will release when PS3 does.

Keep up with the times much? Bill Gates corrected himself and said it'll be realeased "When it's done" Bungie does not work off of His Scedule.

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Their will be a Halo movie coming out (i think i heard that). Their will be a camera feature with 360 coming out. my topic about the camera

The movie doesn't matter at all, they only had to buy the rights to make the movie from Bungie (AKA not microsoft, they just publish the game, not make it) so whatever money they could've made from the film has already been made when they bought the rights. They won't see a cent of the money made by the film when released.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-03-16 at 20:26:24
I ment the ipod hurt sony financially. >.< (sony does more than PS you know) Because no one wants to by cd players when they can just buy an iPod and put it all in that small thing. Errggg nvm. I saw a thing on tv about it a while ago I dont remember it very well.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moogle on 2006-03-16 at 20:33:31
Well may seem that consoles is cheaper but in the longrun some consoles systems are better then PC's for 2 - 4 years due to better technology being added. But you say consoles are cheaper? yea right PS3 has been told cost in australia from 1,200$ to 1,500$ O.o and ya can buy a reasonable pc for 800$ to 2,000$ -_- but mah i still gonna buy PS3/360 because i dont really care about prices i just want have em so i can play games i like. =0

\\Moogle
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-03-16 at 20:35:10
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Keep up with the times much? Bill Gates corrected himself and said it'll be realeased "When it's done" Bungie does not work off of His Scedule.

I am pretty sure that comment was made when PS3 was supposed to come out this spring. So bungie might be able to do it by november. I dont really know how long it takes to make a game. So, I dont know.


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The movie doesn't matter at all, they only had to buy the rights to make the movie from Bungie (AKA not microsoft, they just publish the game, not make it) so whatever money they could've made from the film has already been made when they bought the rights. They won't see a cent of the money made by the film when released.


E! Online reported that Microsoft set conditions such as Microsoft retaining merchandising rights, a $75 million budget and Microsoft having the rights to examine rough cuts of the movie.
source vvv below vvv

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_Movie



Here are some "rumors"

Rumor 1: Sometime around November 2006, MS is launching a complete
media service on the marketplace. This will range from 99 cent
songs, to 3.99 streaming movies.

Rumor 2: At next E3, MS will announce a parternship with Blizzard that
will bring World of Warcraft exclusively to 360. The deal is
done, and Blizzard is working on porting the game and a console
control scheme. This game will also include a unannounced
expansion that the PC gamers will have to wait about a month to get
after we get this game. Only 360 gamers will be on specific 360
servers, the game will include voice chat, and
it wouldn't work with PC gamers.

Rumor 3: Halo 3 will be out Quarter 4 of 2006.

Rumor 4: There will be over 50 Sega Dreamcast games on the Xbox Live Arcade
within 2 years, launched a handfull at a time. Every Dreamcast game released on 360 will be priced at around 10 dollars.

Rumor 5: Bonk's Adventure is coming to Xbox Live Arcade September 2006.

Facts or just wishful thinking?...some if not all of it certainly sounds plausible.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-16 at 21:22:42
QUOTE(Moogle @ Mar 16 2006, 08:33 PM)
Well may seem that consoles is cheaper but in the longrun some consoles systems are better then PC's for 2 - 4 years due to better technology being added. But you say consoles are cheaper? yea right PS3 has been told cost in australia from 1,200$ to 1,500$[right][snapback]447105[/snapback][/right]

Tell me you're basing your entire Consoles or PCs are cheaper arguement over a rumored price tag for a system that isn't even out yet?

And that is the dumbest rumor I've ever heard in my entire exsistance of this life. $1,200 dollars? Are you farking kidding? What retarded moron thought of that? The ps3 takes $900 dollars to make, so why would they add on an extra 300 dollars if they knew no one would buy it if it surpassed the 500 marker. And it's really sad how you even beleived that ridiculos rumor. I cry for humanity.

And still $500 dollars along with a couple games, an extra controller (Only 2 controller ports) and online, that'd still be less than a new up to date computer.
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I am pretty sure that comment was made when PS3 was supposed to come out this spring. So bungie might be able to do it by november. I dont really know how long it takes to make a game. So, I dont know.

The comment was made out of Bill Gates' arrogance, he does not control bungie, the game isn't even offically annouced and you suspect it to be realeased in 8 months? There is not a scrath of information on it, there isn't even a title yet. And it takes a block buster game like Halo at least 2 years to make, however it took 3 years to make Halo 2.
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E! Online reported that Microsoft set conditions such as Microsoft retaining merchandising rights, a $75 million budget and Microsoft having the rights to examine rough cuts of the movie.

By merchandise, I assume you mean the action figures that Bungie already made and can be bought, or the Halo posters, yeah I'm sure that will bring in a hefty income... They won't see anything movie related.
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At next E3, MS will announce a parternship with Blizzard that
will bring World of Warcraft exclusively to 360

That rumored was already crushed by blizzard, they have no intentions of bring WoW to the 360, and it was made even more relevant when they annouced production of Blood Crusade and not Xbox360 WoW.

I'm begginning to think you don't really know what you're talking about, and you don't know where the date is located on most articles.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-03-16 at 21:46:16
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The comment was made out of Bill Gates' arrogance, he does not control bungie, the game isn't even offically annouced and you suspect it to be realeased in 8 months? There is not a scrath of information on it, there isn't even a title yet. And it takes a block buster game like Halo at least 2 years to make, however it took 3 years to make Halo 2.

I thought their was a name for it. Xeon or something, maybe not. Anyways like i said I don't know how long it takes ot make a video game. you should read the whole wikipedia article. I only took something out quickly.

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That rumored was already crushed by blizzard, they have no intentions of bring WoW to the 360, and it was made even more relevant when they annouced production of Blood Crusade and not Xbox360 WoW.


Yeah i forgot to post the source for that one after posting all my stuffs.... anyways they were rumors someone posted. I wanted to know what people thought. I guess rumor 2 is false. ^_^


I'm begginning to think you don't really know what you're talking about, and you don't know where the date is located on most articles.


I could look up dates but It's not worth it for debating over it with someone over the internet with something as dumb as video games lol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-16 at 21:51:54
QUOTE(n2o-SiMpSoNs @ Mar 16 2006, 09:45 PM)
I could look up dates but It's not worth it for debating over it with someone over the internet with something as dumb as video games lol.
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Die.
Just die.
You lost every bit of crediblity I ever had for you. What you basically said was "I have no idea what in hells name I'm doing and I can see now that I'm making myself look like an idiot. I think I'll take the backdoor out by saying I don't care even though i started this topic, and read an entire wikipedia article on "dumb stuff" that I obviously "is not worth debating about". Next time you can just stop posting, and if you really "Don't care" then you won't reply to this post since you're too cool for school and don't care about shiz yo!
"AND I JUST DUNT GIVE A F*CK"
-Tupac

You sure are cool mister I wish I was cool like you.
[sub]If you do reply to the post you're just proving me right on how you don't know what you're doing and anything you say is filled with fatal flaws to what ever poorly put together arguement you have set up[/sub]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-03-16 at 22:09:49
this topic was about ps3 release date not xbox vs ps3 vs pcs vs halo.. I have the time magazine article in my room in my closet if you want ill tear apart my closet look it up. Ill still debate with you i just dont wanna find the dates. So, basicly i ment I don't want to find the dates. Not, I dont want to debate becuase I'm making myself look dumb. another thing, the reason I kept on saying "I think" is because I'm going 80% from memory of things i read on SEN, the other 3 or 4 forums i'm at, and word of mouth.

off topic when is x3 coming out wink.gif

Also, when you quoted tupac it reminded me of a movie I saw. Wait I think I remember. I think it was xXx : State of the Union. If you saw the movie you would know what I'm talking about.

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and read an entire wikipedia article on "dumb stuff" that I obviously "is not worth debating about".

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I read the whole thing?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-03-16 at 22:14:31
QUOTE(n2o-SiMpSoNs @ Mar 16 2006, 10:09 PM)
this topic was about ps3 release date not xbox vs ps3 vs pcs vs halo.. I have the time magazine article in my room in my closet if you want ill tear apart my closet look it up. Ill still debate with you i just dont wanna find the dates. So, basicly i ment I don't want to find the dates. Not, I dont want to debate becuase I'm making myself look dumb. another thing, the reason I kept on saying "I think" is because I'm going 80% from memory of things i read on SEN, the other 3 or 4 forums i'm at, and word of mouth.

I said you don't read the dates because all the rumors you suggest are over 5 months old.

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off topic when is x3 coming out wink.gif

Google Knows. offtopic.gif
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I read the whole thing?
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you should read the whole wikipedia article

Unless you're REALLY an idiot that you would only suggest for me to read all of it if you had read all of it yourself. And thanks for proving my point wink.gif
Time to sleep teehee.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-03-16 at 22:21:15
Yay for sleep bleh.gif

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I said you don't read the dates because all the rumors you suggest are over 5 months old.
Google Knows. offtopic.gif

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you should read the whole wikipedia article

Unless you're REALLY an idiot that you would only suggest for me to read all of it if you had read all of it yourself. And thanks for proving my point wink.gif
Time to sleep teehee.gif
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Eh. the rumors were old how was i supposed to know tongue.gif now i know.
fark google pokey.gif

I didn't read it. I skimmed it. Which is probably as bad as not reading it >.<

stfu leave me alone. i want my mommy. cry.gif

Psssstt : Bring all Next Gen Console debates HERE
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-03-16 at 23:26:16
QUOTE(Demaris @ Mar 16 2006, 09:25 AM)

Ps3 release date = Halo 3 release date uberwoot.gif

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Wow totally dude. I never actually thought about that lol. PS3 going to take a big hit. Diff between ps3 and xbox 360 all up to the fan boys XD, becuase there is really none....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moogle on 2006-03-17 at 00:09:15
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Mar 17 2006, 01:22 PM)
Tell me you're basing your entire Consoles or PCs are cheaper arguement over a rumored price tag for a system that isn't even out yet?

And that is the dumbest rumor I've ever heard in my entire exsistance of this life. $1,200 dollars? Are you farking kidding? What retarded moron thought of that? The ps3 takes $900 dollars to make, so why would they add on an extra 300 dollars if they knew no one would buy it if it surpassed the 500 marker. And it's really sad how you even beleived that ridiculos rumor. I cry for humanity.

And still $500 dollars along with a couple games, an extra controller (Only 2 controller ports) and online, that'd still be less than a new up to date computer.
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A moron? Lol Rumors maybe, You forget this Golden, I DONT LIVE IN BLOODY U.S I LIVE IN AUSTRALIA, money isnt worth shiz so Sony has increase price make money in this country so dont go calling someone a moron just because what i heard price was gonna be due fact that our money isnt worth much to other countires. Anywoot Blek~

\\Moogle
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-03-17 at 02:44:31
*MinigameEast trys to change the subject before a nerdy flame war appears*

well... right now i've been looking up some Ps3 websites and they said it costs right now about $900

also i know that i heard they have a bigger harddrive, but do you really need to have all that space? if your trying to save music on the harddrive, thats where you buy an ipod. there are many things that Ps3 isn't going to have because they don't OWN any other consoles.

once xbox sees that Ps3 is betting them (50/50 chance) then microsoft can just do anything to PIMP out there console.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2006-03-17 at 11:52:09
QUOTE(n2o-SiMpSoNs @ Mar 15 2006, 08:29 PM)
Sony Computer Entertainment has announced that PlayStation 3 will be launched worldwide in November 2006, and yes that includes the UK.

It’s bad news for Japan, but better than expected for the US and Europe – Sony has missed its spring launch window for Japan, but today made it official that PS3 will be here for November 2006. On reflection, the announcement sees Sony emerge slightly more favourably than some games industry analysts had predicted – some suggesting that PS3 wouldn’t make it to the US until spring 2007, putting Europe at the end of the pecking order around September 2007.

By launching in November 2006 worldwide Sony can arguably make a bigger impact with PlayStation 3. Of course we’re now looking at the possibility of stock shortages, as was the case with PlayStation 2 when it arrived in the UK, but we’ll cross that bridge as and when. Another concern is that no games were shown at the event; the Japanese development community seem to have been invited along to hear about new technology relating to PSP voice-over opportunities.

The pressure is now on Microsoft to make good with Xbox 360 while it is the only so-called ‘next-generation’ machine available.
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sweet, we all know it's going to be better than 360. They are taking there time and hopefully checking over any mistakes, or bad bugs and such. I can't wait for it's release smile.gif.
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