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to produce, wow ok now thats going cost a lot of money... I dont know i expect it to be around 600 bucks? however, didnt they say there going to have the 60gb hard drive also. Hmmm so 600 i can see as almost minimum to 700 or even 800. But I mean i dont think sony is gonig to sell there system for 700 bucks, thats almost as much as 2 xbox 360.


also if you read this article, you can tell it would be hard for sony to take the hit.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/703/703683p1.html

Boyscout...ahem... You forgot ID Software: Quake 4

PC>Both.

The Cell processor is just a marketing gimmick. However, I believe the PS3 gpu is based on the NVidia GeForce 7800 GTX architecture (G70). If memory serves me correctly, that's a good deal more powerful than the 360 gpu designed by ATI. In most cases, the NVidia card can't use both AA and HDR. However, the Source engine (originally for Half-Life 2) utilizes a slightly different but just as effective HDR method. Still, the 7800 GTX has more graphical horsepower.

I couldn't care less about the HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray business. Normal DVDs are enough for me.

Those multi-core cpu's they use in those consoles are pretty poorly designed. They would have been better just sticking in a stable dual-core processor.

Cheaper my ass.
To fully update your computer today (meaning you don't even have a computer and you're getting it to today's standards) Would cost around $1,200 dollars. So let's check that in comparison:
Ps2 - $250
1 Good Game - $50
1 Decent Game - $40
1 Cheap Game - $20
Addtional Controller - $20
Right now the price is $380 dollars, and you already have enough stuff to keep you occupied with your games. And if you picked a game like GTA or Dynasty Warriors Empires, then you'll be good for a month or two. With the PC you have a basic crappy computer that can only run Starcraft. Now let's see how many Good Games I have. 17 So let's add that in. This makes it $1,230 We reached the breaking point. But while you have a computer with 0 games on it, I have a Ps2 and 17 quality games that cost $50 dollars. So when you get one good game that will cost $40-50 dollars anyway I could already have another good game.
That's not cheaper. You also have to spend another $600 dollars every 4 years to update your computer.

Yea i knew about that oblivion and doa4 stuff... Meh you said computer is games are cheaper not really... They cost so much becuase you have a graphic card that cost like $400 bucks just to keep your computer playing the lastest game for a few year. But yea computer can do alot more than a console can do, but i think console is actually cheaper than a computer when it comes to gaming. Expect ps3 XD.... People keep saying PC will win in the end, but do you guys know that PC games are actually selling less than video games...

Also about FEAR yea dude i thought thoes kinds of game wasnt scary. However, i played condenmed crinimal origin and that was like omg! it was such a scary game XD yea i try not to play at night... morning time isnt that scary like fresh off the bed and etc... But once it hits that 7... it starts to get pretty scary...

PS3 cost :

$499 for the 20 gig version...$599 for the 60 gig version... U.S. and Europe release on November 17th 2006



hd dvd for 360




the hd-dvd attachment for 360

attachments coming for the 360 other than hd-dvd

360 wireless gaming receiver
Wireless racing wheel
Wireless headset
Xbox Live Vision Camera
New faceplates for Halo
256 MB portable memory unit (MU)

Yea i should add all of thoes info. Meh i will like tommorow. But why you state the ps3 cost... The 20gb serioulsy is not even a ps3...

To upgrade your computer? Hmmm, if you spread out a new graphics card every 18 months, and a new cpu and motherboard every three years, I'm going to say that that will run you about $700 every three years for decent equipment. Heck, I'll even say that you can spend another $200 every three years if you want to upgrade the power supply, hard drives, optical drives, etc. So even if you want to spend $300 a year to upgrade PC stuff, you're still pretty good technology-wise. Many people can afford that. True, it's not cheaper than console gaming, but I prefer it. I think it has something to do with the fact that I can go play Oblivion on max settings (for image quality, monitors are so much better than tv screens, hands down) while downloading... legally some music, and then talking to my friends on AIM, surfing the web... etc. etc. The PC is so much more than a gaming platform.

First let me just say in order to play your own music with oblivion on highest settings and AIM running, you need a super computer or better. And TVs can be better than Moniters, obviously they're a hella of a lot more expensive, like plasma TVs or High Defention TVs but they can provide a better picture at times, and of course, a bigger one . And it should be the other way around Computers were not made for games, so of course they can do a lot more stuff. Games are just an add on to them.

Uhh, you can hook up your computer to a TV, just so you know.
And you can watch TV on your computer's monitor

And you don't need a "supercomputer", you just need a good computer, which is pretty expensive.

And Felagund, I don't think you'll really need to upgrade your hard drive any more, or power supply. If you have an SATA harddrive with like 250 GBs, I think you're set for a while, not three years.

Yeah but new technologies come out. SATA, NCQ, etc. etc. My 20" widescreen monitor is sharper than any TV I've ever seen. For $400 you could probably snag a 20" HDTV, but I really do prefer my monitor. Heck, you can pick up an Intel Pentium D 805 for $130 and overclock it a ton. It's dual core, and you can easily pump 3 GHz out of it. That's more than enough for Oblivion. Some things that you probably won't need to upgrade for a long time - memory, hard drives, and sound cards.

Let's make some sense.

Man T you dont need to come and flame on your own clan members post...

Hynk, you're mistaken.

1. I'm not talking about hard drive space. I'm talking about speed.

2. 2x1 GB of Ram is always preferable to 4x512 MB of Ram (timings).

3. AMD Opteron 165 / Intel Pentium D 805 are the ways to go.

4. A single G80 or ATI (I believe the new core is R600) series card will blow away any dual-gpu setup.

You'll still be fine with 2gbs or RAM reguardless.

And you'll still be set with a 250 GB SATA HD. I mean, the difference between ATA and SATA isn't even that big.

Opterons are sort of expensive. I'm fine with an AMD Athlon 3700+, but I'm a bargain shopper, so whatever.

And is buying such a new video card that neccesary, just get like one from an older series, like the 6600. :\

yep i just updated this, expect alot more update by next week.

Right now I just rewrote the whole lastest news, and added some more review..

By the end of this week i expect to change the whole review for almost everything. Listing some basic feature of the game and etc.

and adding lot more color.

Add in chrome hounds, over g fighters, and cod2!

omg someone is looking XD lol, Over G Fighter will be hard to add in, becuase im still wondering if im ever going to play that game lol haha.

Chrome Hounds yes once it comes out, im going to play it for sure, and maybe i will do some research. CoD2, everyone already knows about the game... However, yea ill go do a review on all the games i played pretty soon. 15000 gamerscore XD... Yep thats a lot of games played and lots of reviews.

And dead rising, gta4, halo3, cod3, graw, prey, the elder scrolls 4 oblivion, pdz, ZOMG WHAT ELSE?

Wow you ask a lot, im a very busy guy also you know... Prey, i might not do becuase didnt like the demo and dont feel like playing lol haha... ill update it over the weekend...

Hey, i'm not going to waste my money on another dumb game. o yah, GUN and hitman: bloodmoney

wheres Perfect Dark Zero?