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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2006-05-13 at 23:06:02

Hey, gues wut. I played Project Gotham Racing and I thougth Gran Turismo 4's cars looked more realistic. All Project Gotham racing had was reflection, smooth corners, and good first persion view.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-13 at 23:13:58

You suck at arguing.

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Chee, what happened do that statement you said "Rating means nothing, its if people like it" I guess it must have slipt your mind.

I don't know. Ask the person who said that.

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an 8.5 out of 10 is not bad and ghost recon did not get a 9. Where are you getting these idiotic lies?

Ghost Recon:
DUR?
DUR??
DUR???
You might be better at defending points if you have any proof of all the crap you talk. Let's go on to the next game:
Quake 4:
Medicore
Medicorex2
How about my other game? Call of Duty 2:
Omg an 8.9
OMG and 8.8
and a 9.0
All of these scores are better than quake 4's.
Let's check some news?

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Year-to-date 2005 numbers from the NPD group, which collects data from many of the game retailers in the US, shows that Call of Duty 2 managed to rake in more cash than Resident Evil 4 on Nintendo's GameCube, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for the Xbox, and every single PC game released in 2005. Considering that RE4 released in January of 2005 and GTA: SA in July (though it was originally released on PS2), it's impressive that CoD2 was able to do so well as it launched with the Xbox 360 in late November last year. It also outgrossed the PS2's newest Dragonball Z: Budokai iteration, Tekken 5, Soulcalibur III, the PS2's Call of Duty 2: Big Red One and Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory on the Xbox. Throw in the fact that the game had already come out on the PC and the Xbox 360 version still had twice as much sales revenue (though that can be partially attributed to the $60 price tag on the X360 version), and it's even more of a phenomenon.

Link to IGN

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According to the NPD group, Activsion scored some solid hits in Q4 2005. Call of Duty 2 was the number one Xbox 360 and number two PC game of the quarter. Tony Hawk's American Wasteland was the fourth overall game from October to December, with sales of the long-popular franchise topping $1 billion in revenue.

Link to Gamespot
They both can't be lying. Unless it's a huge conspiracy theroy on how everyone hates quake 4!
Click here for the GRAW sellings

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Golden, had best stop posting cause all your gonna get is a flame back.

So you're saying when I hit "Add Reply" you're going to intetionally break the rules because i'm proving you wrong and you're just saying stupid stuff like "WELL, YOU UH, YOU ARE INCORRECT AND SUCK VERY MUCH".
Ok.

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You only agree with oblvion because you like oblivion and same with others. YOU should work for the gov't seeing how you can lie twice as bad as me even when i am telling facts.

Actually I said oblivion because I have facts unlike yourself, try using them once and a while. Oblivion was game of the month for March and has been 4 years in the making, and out of all the reviews it's never gotten below a 9 for either version. I was trying to find the link to the news of Oblivion selling 1 million units but I can't find it right now. I'll post it later.
And you used my own insult against me while failing to prove anything at all. I'll say this: Please don't reply, you'll just prove how bad you are at arguing and further prove that you're just despretly trying to hold on to what you call an "argument" with a thin piece of thread, but failing miserably. Thank you.

EDIT: Since I knew you'd use any last attempts to attack my argument I decided to search a lot harder and I found the link. I know you want actaully take in common sense and not reply so here you go:
Oblivion Sells 1 Million Units
And Again
One more time
And another time
Last One

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2006-05-13 at 23:23:47

About the Xbox 360 adding stuff to games using internet, The ps3 can do that too. It was revealed at E3 06. And it's free.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-13 at 23:45:37

Sony wasn't showing off online at E3. They didn't even annouce it, and they would have to annuouced whether or not it was free, it's not like they had toll booths set up and you had to pay 2 dollars to play.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2006-05-13 at 23:47:45

I think one of the guys said it for their games. It was like this 3rd person RPG.... Untold legends or something.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2006-05-18 at 22:58:37

Wii FTW...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-20 at 12:28:18

PS3 sure did say there internet was free and I thought the gaming was free also. However, i think thats the part where they will not do so good. Gaming might be ok; however, the service part might lack. As i said might you never know.

And for thoes who mocks xbox 360's graphics with some random stuff like. Oh GUN's graphic didnt look good, Dynasty Warrior looked like some old thing... The reason is becuase everyone isnt in the Next-Gen yet and are still supporting current gen games and giving port to xbox 360. Serioulsy Oblivion, GRAW, and a few other xbox 360 game looked real good. And PS3 at this moment looks almost exactly the same as Xbox 360 expect the fact it can have 1080P

The bottom line is you never know whos going to win; however, one thing is for sure. Xbox 360 will outsell Xbox by almost 3 times. Xbox sold almost 30 mil console. And this time i expect Microsoft to sell somewhere atleast 80mil console. So its almost 3 times.

As a middle class parent spending that extra 600 bucks on video game is actually tuff for almost 50% of the world. So i think this is where Wii takes it advantage. Low price, but innovation not some heavy CPU and GPU.

But perosnally i think Sony will sell less than PS2 due to high competition from xbox 360 and the Wii.

However, in the end they will all be winners and will profit. Expect if Blu-Ray wins or Hd-DVD wins one will not profit.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cole on 2006-05-20 at 12:49:46

I'll stick to the Wii.
Microsoft and Sony are both pluggin in nice graphics but.....im lookin for something more. Something new. Something that is creative. Most games on the 360 and Ps3 wont expand that creativity beyond the Xbox and Ps2.

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Actually sony have announced that they will have an online service for the PS3. It was quite a while before E3.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-20 at 13:26:18

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And for thoes who mocks xbox 360's graphics with some random stuff like. Oh GUN's graphic didnt look good, Dynasty Warrior looked like some old thing... The reason is becuase everyone isnt in the Next-Gen yet and are still supporting current gen games and giving port to xbox 360. Serioulsy Oblivion, GRAW, and a few other xbox 360 game looked real good. And PS3 at this moment looks almost exactly the same as Xbox 360 expect the fact it can have 1080P

If they're still working on current gen there's no point porting to Xbox360, and how you have to BUY the New Generations of Gun, Tony Hawk, Dynasty Warriors, and Far Cry instead of buying the old version and using backward compatiblity is outrageous. Since Microsoft decided not to make those select few games NOT to be backward compatible. I'm not exactly sure what you said about ps3, but if you're trying to make it look like it'll have worse graphics or the same your dead wrong.

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The bottom line is you never know whos going to win; however, one thing is for sure. Xbox 360 will outsell Xbox by almost 3 times. Xbox sold almost 30 mil console. And this time i expect Microsoft to sell somewhere atleast 80mil console. So its almost 3 times.

That's not saying much the Xbox had less exclusives than Gamecube. Most of it was ports, and a major part of it's sales were sport games, so basically people who bought Xboxs didn't really play games. Now they have support from Square Enix, Bioware, and other companies, or more so then before. Also them buying out basically all the companies that were part of Nintendo's 3rd party line up had something to do with it.

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But perosnally i think Sony will sell less than PS2 due to high competition from xbox 360 and the Wii.

Oh yeah, the Wii is just getting so much positive attention, being labled the worse Nintendo Console yet, having horrible graphics, and being filled with gimmicks, this is great. Playstation 3 has titles like Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, God of War, Devil May Cry, Socom,a nd other huge titles, and you just think magically everyone will forget these titles and go play Too Human and Mario.

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Actually sony have announced that they will have an online service for the PS3. It was quite a while before E3.

I meant annouce in a more detailed way. Obviously they said it would have Online back in like 2004 or something.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-20 at 19:01:57

Ok some of the stuff you said i didnt really understand. However, you keep your hopes real high about the PS3 with its uber graphics; however, it really aint happening. But yes it does have slight better graphics than Xbox 360. But your uber graphic isnt happening. And if you want to talk about Wii being the worse console for Nintendo, you should hear what people say about PS3. Some people are saying it will totally just fail because of its price.

Serioulsy more than 50% of the world has trouble buying a ps3. And a middle class parent is looking for a system for there son during chrismas. Hmm Wii which will cost around 250 vs ps3 which i 600. Man thats a easy choice, the parent will definatly pick up the Wii.

Some people say 600 isnt much, and yea 600 bucks isnt much. But if your a working father who has to pay rent, and all other bills a lot of people dont actually have that extra 600 bucks to spend.

And back on exlusive
Microsoft has titles like, Halo, Mass effect, Too Human, Gears of War, Fable 2 and such on.

If you really want to compair the exlusive there really isnt a big difference in the Xbox 360 and PS3, unlike PS2 and Xbox.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-20 at 19:50:26

QUOTE(RedNara @ May 20 2006, 06:01 PM)

When did I ever say "OMG UBER GRAPHICZ RUNE 4 DA HILLZ". Can you point it out? No? Because I didn't say it. The ps3 has better graphics, end of story. They're a lot better than the Xbox360's because they had a whole year of new technology to play with. And it's not a "slight change" ALL of the games i've seen for the Ps3 look next gen, if you showed me a picture of Quake 4 I could say it looks like a good xbox game. And I go on a lot of fourms, I haven't heard anyone say the Ps3 is the worst Sony system yet. I'm not the one saying it, my opinion doesn't matter, but there's around 500,000 other people who like the Ps3 over the Wii, and they're not talking about prices.

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Serioulsy more than 50% of the world has trouble buying a ps3. And a middle class parent is looking for a system for there son during chrismas. Hmm Wii which will cost around 250 vs ps3 which i 600. Man thats a easy choice, the parent will definatly pick up the Wii.

Doesn't make a differecne if it sucks. The kid will hate it (if they hate it) despite the damn price. 50%? Are you including homeless people and basically the entire population of china? Because if so that's defently 50%. But for peopel who can actually manage there lives getting a $600 dollar thing for Christmas or a Birthday may be expensive, but it's mangable.

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And back on exlusive
Microsoft has titles like, Halo, Mass effect, Too Human, Gears of War, Fable 2 and such on.
If you really want to compair the exlusive there really isnt a big difference in the Xbox 360 and PS3, unlike PS2 and Xbox.[right][snapback]489921[/snapback][/right]

Those are compeltely different. Mainly because mine are all long lasting franchises, and yours are all new. Halo, that's a given. Mass Effect hasn't been shown off gameplay wise yet, and is a new franchise, along with Too Human, and Gear of War. While Fable 2 is the sequel to a "gimmick" game as most reviewers call it. That's some lineup you got there, always hoping the future will work out eh?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-20 at 22:05:05

500,000 people might like PS3; however, in gamespot it seems like most people favor the Wii, and then Xbox 360. Well atleast thats what the poll says. PS3 came last in the poll.

Yea for thoes who can manage that they can get it. Dude where do you live? I bet you live in some weahtly place as well, so i think its pretty easy for you to say that. Mass Effect really isnt a new franchise, dude its bioware. Perosnally Bioware's RPG seems as good as FF. Too Human is made by Silicon Knight who made one of the best Gamecube game. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem which was amazing. And for Gears of War are you kidding its epic.

Thoes are all huge developres expect im not to sure about Silicon Knight becuase they only have 1 game, which was actually really good; however, only 1 game so meh.

And your whole year of new techonology really fails me. In a whole year we did not see anything new from Sony, the only thing we saw was less specs. More like getting rid of lots of stuff.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-20 at 22:35:32

QUOTE(RedNara @ May 20 2006, 09:04 PM)

500,000 people might like PS3; however, in gamespot it seems like most people favor the Wii, and then Xbox 360. Well atleast thats what the poll says. PS3 came last in the poll.

That's one website, I would post more but IGN is refusing to cooperate and Gamewinners is down for me. There's plenty of articles on IGN that talk about how bad the layout is for the Wii and how many problems it has.

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Yea for thoes who can manage that they can get it. Dude where do you live? I bet you live in some weahtly place as well, so i think its pretty easy for you to say that.

I live in Newton which is a weathly place, but I'm not. And I can buy a ps3, not easily, but it's possible. It's not like trying to make your own skyscraper.

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Mass Effect really isnt a new franchise, dude its bioware. Perosnally Bioware's RPG seems as good as FF. Too Human is made by Silicon Knight who made one of the best Gamecube game. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem which was amazing. And for Gears of War are you kidding its epic.

Bioware, the makers of Jade Empire? Because that was such a great game. Too Human has nothing but hype, and has 0 showings of how the game plays. And is still a new franchise. Gears of War is also still a new franchise and already has a lot of frame rate problems. Epic has been making the same game for the past 8 years it's getting boring. These are all still new franchises that might have hope to sell but there's no defenite. Unlike everything I posted which has good history.

Thoes are all huge developres expect im not to sure about Silicon Knight becuase they only have 1 game, which was actually really good; however, only 1 game so meh.

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And your whole year of new techonology really fails me. In a whole year we did not see anything new from Sony, the only thing we saw was less specs. More like getting rid of lots of stuff.[right][snapback]489983[/snapback][/right]

You don't need a specs sheet to tell the difference between Xbox360 graphics and a Ps3's graphics. It'll be like last generation except flipped, now sony will have the better graphics all the time.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by hynk on 2006-05-21 at 01:05:55

I enter this topic and all I see is Golden being cool...
God damn... just go waste your money on your farking useless piece of crap known as a PS3... there is no one stopping you... (when it comes out of course)

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As i said before when people were saying how horrible the 360 was, sonys not going to be any better. The ps2 online was free, but it sucked. It just absolutely sucked. There were barely any online games and they all were horrible besides socom. They are making you pay 100-200 more than a 360 even though the graphics are just about the same and the ps3 has a crapty hardrive/controller. The headsets cost 50 dollars and you can only buy it through zipper interactive or some store with crappy 20 dollar ones. Both of the systems can play dvd's on them but only the 360 allows you to download new content for games or even trailures on new movies and such. In addition, the ps3 test model overheated at the sony headquaters and it had just about caught a flame. There are no good games ready to come out for the system just like the 360 but the xbox had quake which is what 65% of the people first played. Not only do they overheat, but they are even more fragile than a 360. If you dropped your 360 from 2 ft, it would be ok, but a ps3 would fall apart. Honestly, why would anyone pay 100-200 dollars more on a system that seems even worse then the 360 in which most people thought it sucked. Think about it.
addition: Golden: the 3 top selling games were quake 4, battlefield 2, and oblivion. Get it straight. Sony copied their controller from another company, and so they had to give it up "buddy"
I am not an xbox lover. I didn't have an xbox, i had a ps2. I was sick of ps2 so i decided to go with xbox this time and i was impressed. Halo isn't the greatest game in the world, there was also games for xbox such as doom 3, call of duty
(both systems), and counter strike.
To warhammer: Idk buddy, how can people already love halo 3 when it hasn't even come out yet?
To everyone who posted besides boyscout: STOP freakING FLAMING HIM JESUS CHRIST. Especially you golden. What has gotten into you/people.
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I agree...

I just think Xbox360 and Wii will do... or maybe a new and better laptop... :l
W/e... I'm keeping my hands away from the PS3...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-21 at 01:30:05

Perosnally Microsoft is doing real good. Once in 2005 micrsoft will have a smaller CPU which will make it cheaper to create the 360. And soon they will lower the price by almost $100 each on core and preimum. That makes xbox 360 twice as cheaper than the PS3, and i really wonder what the PS3 got backed up for that... Not only that more a console profits the better the company can do.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-21 at 09:26:01

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I enter this topic and all I see is Golden being an ass... [right][snapback]490059[/snapback][/right]

You're an idiot.
Like many other people on this fourm they decide to block out facts and knowledge just because they hate me. I proved almost everything he said wrong, and you're only sticking with it because you obviously hate me for some reason. That's really great but no one cares about your useless personal fued.

And what are you agreeing to anyway?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-21 at 17:03:35

You didnt prove me wrong...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2006-05-21 at 17:14:47

Microsoft is frickin hungry for money. They moved everything to multiplayer and make you pay so much for that. 150$ for controllers if u wanna play Halo 3. Or, choose the online version where u still have to pay. Boo.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-21 at 17:27:27

QUOTE(RedNara @ May 21 2006, 04:03 PM)

You didnt prove me wrong...[right][snapback]490430[/snapback][/right]

I never said I did. I was refering to him quoting Mp)Marine. Not you.

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Uh.
It costs $40 dollars for a new controller and Xbox Live costs the same amount. And just to tell you the only thing Gold has that Silver doesn't is actual online play. If you want to dl stuff off the marketplace, you can.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-21 at 22:17:51

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I never said I did. I was refering to him quoting Mp)Marine. Not you.

Meh for Marine i guess you kinda did, but not really. He did state lots of opinions and there isnt much facts...

Personally i think Xbox Live is doing real good... I think it was a better choice to pay 5 bucks per month. I mean lots of people wont notice it that much, but then again its like pay per play game vrs non pay per play game. With just that 5 bucks microsoft can actually deliver alot more stuff.

And you know hardware is only like one-fourth of the battle for a system. You have to have the software and service which actually is the bigger part.

Xbox was seriesly like 4x stronger than PS2 even Gamecube was stronger than PS2... However, PS2 had more developres/software + service, so it owned all of the other 2 console.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-21 at 22:47:14

Actually most of it was rumors that he heard and decided to bring them here in which I proved them wrong. I think the only opinion in there was that ps3 sucks.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-22 at 20:51:07

One but the fact is the PS3 is actually has been stripped down from the 2005 E3 version. I doubt how much stronger it can run now. Even looking at the fact how much more stripped down the 20gb version is, serioulsy wonder what Sony is doing...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-22 at 22:48:03

Regardless, whether or not he thinks it sucks is an opinion.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-22 at 23:35:13

No its a fact that the PS3 has been stripped down from what they have shown from last E3. I serioulsy doubt even the things they have been showing at the E3 will look anything close in your living room screen. And CG trailers really dont impress people...

Also about you saying Sony conference was the best is totally not true. IGN, Gamespot and other places are saying it was the worse and Wii did the best.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-22 at 23:49:50

QUOTE(RedNara @ May 22 2006, 10:34 PM)

No its a fact that the PS3 has been stripped down fr- BLAH BLAH

Can you read? Can you read what you write?
You just said "No his opinion is not an opinion, because the sony ps3 was stripped down. That doesn't make any sense. I was trying to say he only had a single opinion in his post and you kept clinging on to what you were trying to say which was irrlevant at the time.

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Also about you saying Sony conference was the best is totally not true. IGN, Gamespot and other places are saying it was the worse and Wii did the best.[right][snapback]491095[/snapback][/right]

What are you talking about. When did I ever say that? If anything I've said all the time the Sony Confrence was boring as hell.

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