Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-06-01 at 14:45:21
I hope that the people we're referring to would read this thread.
Or better yet, I think we need to add this to the rules. "If you are flamed, just ignore it" or w/e.
EDIT: Or I mean, put more emphasis on tihs.
Or better yet, I think we need to add this to the rules. "If you are flamed, just ignore it" or w/e.
EDIT: Or I mean, put more emphasis on tihs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-06-01 at 14:46:54
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 1 2006, 09:44 PM)
I hope that the people we're referring to would read this thread.
Or better yet, I think we need to add this to the rules. "If you are flamed, just ignore it" or w/e.
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Or better yet, I think we need to add this to the rules. "If you are flamed, just ignore it" or w/e.
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Do people really read rules ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-06-01 at 14:49:35
QUOTE(The_Zekling @ Jun 1 2006, 02:06 PM)
We dont want to wake up in the morning and see the next news post full of comments like "No u F*** ur so stupid go get a life" or something.
Any flame that obvious wouldn't make it past any moderator.
QUOTE(Jammed @ Jun 1 2006, 02:08 PM)
What are your suggestions. How to teach them to ignore ? (The will not lear by themselves)
I just had this idea - how about making some sort of moderating duty, like "post controll". Their duty is to check all new posts, and report the ones that should be reported to global mod's. I had this idea becawse posts don't get reported much, I think. And you guys don't have the time to look at all the posts. I think it's possible to make: this "post controller" has a function, that shows all new posts that have been made on SEN. (or it may allready exist but I don't know about it)
If you have something like this allready, just ignore it.
I just had this idea - how about making some sort of moderating duty, like "post controll". Their duty is to check all new posts, and report the ones that should be reported to global mod's. I had this idea becawse posts don't get reported much, I think. And you guys don't have the time to look at all the posts. I think it's possible to make: this "post controller" has a function, that shows all new posts that have been made on SEN. (or it may allready exist but I don't know about it)
If you have something like this allready, just ignore it.
Reading all posts in not practical. If it takes a couple of weeks to go through the DLDB, how the heck can we read every post?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-06-01 at 14:51:46
It is kind of funny hearing that this problem is occuring while some people are disagreeing and thinking that this is not really a problem. Well considering that it is occuring in this topic that is about flaming.
Quick Recap
Topic Made to stop flaming that is happening in other topics.
Flaming occuring in the topic made on flaming.
Something fishy there!
Quick Recap
Topic Made to stop flaming that is happening in other topics.
Flaming occuring in the topic made on flaming.
Something fishy there!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-06-01 at 14:54:49
QUOTE(7-7 @ Jun 1 2006, 01:51 PM)
Quick Recap
Topic Made to stop flaming that is happening in other topics.
Flaming occuring in the topic made on flaming.
Something fishy there!
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Topic Made to stop flaming that is happening in other topics.
Flaming occuring in the topic made on flaming.
Something fishy there!
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No flaming has occured in this topic...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-06-01 at 14:55:50
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Jun 1 2006, 09:49 PM)
Any flame that obvious wouldn't make it past any moderator.
Reading all posts in not practical. If it takes a couple of weeks to go through the DLDB, how the heck can we read every post?
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Reading all posts in not practical. If it takes a couple of weeks to go through the DLDB, how the heck can we read every post?
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Make a "team" of people who will check....
What ? Why are you looking at me like that ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-06-01 at 15:58:42
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 1 2006, 12:55 PM)
And that, is the problem. People HAVE to learn to ignore these. You only make things worse if you don't. There is no such thing as a flame-free world. Many people on this site are way too sensitive to words. Keep up with this attitude later on in life, you'll blow your mind up. If people claim that they're mature on this site; the best way to show this is to ignore flames and not let them take the best of you.[right][snapback]497326[/snapback][/right]
That's sort of a double wammy. People can't ignore things because people are too immature and are like
"LOL GF U CENT TUELK I PWN U IN OTHAR THRED GG GG GG"
So we're in a circle of badness.
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If you let words over the internet affect you that much, you're really too emotionally weak. If it's in real life, fine w/e, but this is over the internet.
It's not that I get emotionally hurt when Euro told me to get a dirty sanchez it's just from past expirences I know that would carry over. And on some occasions (Not so much to me, anymore) it has. Like HoRRoR or whoever has it in there sig who talks about how Lyon sucks. Techinally it isn't flamming but it's unnessarcy hatred towards one another.
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Reading all posts in not practical. If it takes a couple of weeks to go through the DLDB, how the heck can we read every post?
Not really. I read most of the posts every day. I could read the modding fourm but I really don't feel like it. And there's always ways to catch stuff. If a thread called "it's my brithday" reaches to 8 pages and it's some unknown members. Chances are something is up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-06-01 at 16:07:28
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 1 2006, 01:37 PM)
It's simple... just ignore it. How hard can that be? If you let words over the internet affect you that much, you're really too emotionally weak. If it's in real life, fine w/e, but this is over the internet.
This is true but, I dont feel like listening to many other people in the forum bicker at eachother.
Idea that would help : Higher more sectional moderators because it's impossible for 6 people to moderate the whole site. We need one person for like each section but, in the other section we would need more or we should have 1 person for games, one person for creative, one person for serious and lite, and one person for null or something along those lines. It all depends on how many people you would like to higher and how many people you can trust.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-06-01 at 16:10:06
I agree that increasing the number of moderators will help to catch even "hidden" flame.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-06-01 at 16:23:29
QUOTE(Jammed @ Jun 1 2006, 02:09 PM)
I agree that increasing the number of moderators will help to catch even "hidden" flame.
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is this because you want to become a moderator or something of a higher ranking? lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-06-02 at 11:39:13
QUOTE(7-7 @ Jun 1 2006, 05:40 AM)
I have noticed this too, its not really that big of a problem, it should be worked out on their own! People just need to learn to take it out on people in a melee game!
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Some people don't have time to Melee. Like me for example.
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 1 2006, 10:23 AM)
No I'm saying it isn't entirely the staff's duty to control what's going on. Sure we've got to be more aggressive and stuff, but we alone can't do the job. We need your help, your cooperation, Mutual relationship rather than a symbiotic or even parasitic relationship.
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Just like Camo's thread. Exactly. In order to "stop flame" members must strive to ignore others in their flamage.
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 1 2006, 10:32 AM)
We can't do much about those few bad people who do nothing but flame or cause trouble with bad manners or such, but what the rest of us could do is just ignore them, not get drawn up into wars with them. They're just words; words can't hurt you, especially if they're over the internet. That way, those people who started it would eventually be the only ones ending up flaming and thus, would be the prime targets for us staff members 
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Ignoring is simple. Just some members deserve what they have comming to them.
QUOTE(Jammed @ Jun 1 2006, 11:08 AM)
What are your suggestions. How to teach them to ignore ? (The will not lear by themselves)
I just had this idea - how about making some sort of moderating duty, like "post controll". Their duty is to check all new posts, and report the ones that should be reported to global mod's. I had this idea becawse posts don't get reported much, I think. And you guys don't have the time to look at all the posts. I think it's possible to make: this "post controller" has a function, that shows all new posts that have been made on SEN. (or it may allready exist but I don't know about it)
If you have something like this allready, just ignore it.
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I just had this idea - how about making some sort of moderating duty, like "post controll". Their duty is to check all new posts, and report the ones that should be reported to global mod's. I had this idea becawse posts don't get reported much, I think. And you guys don't have the time to look at all the posts. I think it's possible to make: this "post controller" has a function, that shows all new posts that have been made on SEN. (or it may allready exist but I don't know about it)
If you have something like this allready, just ignore it.
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Yeah. It's not hard to teach kids new things, it happens all the time. That's what school is, duh!
Anyways: It's impossible for moderators to get every single little post on every single solotary forum. The only way to get that to happen, is to get more moderators (Which most likely, will never happen soon. It took them how long to get these newest ones?)
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how the heck can we read every post?[right][snapback]497364[/snapback][/right]
Get more moderators that can be trusted?
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 1 2006, 11:54 AM)
No flaming has occured in this topic...
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Exactly. That's what I dislike about most new members. They don't know what a TRUE flame is. They think any form of discussion where members are a tiny bit heated, is flames.
It's rather pathetic.
QUOTE(Jammed @ Jun 1 2006, 01:09 PM)
I agree that increasing the number of moderators will help to catch even "hidden" flame.
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And everyone would be warned. Including Moderators.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-06-02 at 13:18:49
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jun 2 2006, 09:38 AM)
Some people don't have time to Melee.
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I was just using this as a type of joke that sen isnt made for people to fight on but just to talk about an awesome game and that the game is where you are supposed to fight and conquer the other player! (in melee) which I do not play
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-06-02 at 14:49:21
I'm sure the moderators do their best job for keeping the flame out. Maybe message the person who you are annoyed with, and kindly ask them to stop.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-06-02 at 15:57:17
QUOTE(DarkArchon(MC) @ Jun 2 2006, 01:48 PM)
I'm sure the moderators do their best job for keeping the flame out. Maybe message the person who you are annoyed with, and kindly ask them to stop.
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I tried that once. They replied with:
"Stuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i ownStuf nub u suc i own etc."
It's a team effort.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xMCx on 2006-06-02 at 19:16:40
Then you could have forwarded it to someone higher.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-06-02 at 19:52:40
Or, ignore it completely?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-06-02 at 20:31:51
QUOTE(DarkArchon(MC) @ Jun 2 2006, 06:16 PM)
Then you could have forwarded it to someone higher.
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And do what?
I'll give you the response of a mod to a PM annoyance:
"Block them"
Privite Messaging has no limits or rules. I could PM moose telling him he's a douchebag and in theory he can't ban me.
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Or, ignore it completely?
That only works for so long. Since I've seen that type before I decided not to respond, and what do you know a few days later when there was a discussion they brought it back saying I don't know anything. That sure was fun.
Eventually I talked to someone who knew that person and basically told him to shut it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-06-02 at 20:38:28
Did you report the person?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-06-02 at 22:13:22
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Jun 2 2006, 07:38 PM)
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About what? Being an idiot? That's not a rule on SEN otherwise there'd only be 10 people left.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-06-02 at 22:23:36
Oh, we're talking about PMs, my bad.
Ignore them, with the ignore feature. That's what I did to Zombie, and it worked for me. Eventually, he got banned
And Moose follows no rules
Ignore them, with the ignore feature. That's what I did to Zombie, and it worked for me. Eventually, he got banned
And Moose follows no rules
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-06-02 at 22:28:57
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Jun 2 2006, 09:23 PM)
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I already mentioned that:
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I'll give you the response of a mod to a PM annoyance:
"Block them"
"Block them"
Only I said block...
And when he said "lol u no nuthin" that's not flamming or trolling really. And it wasn't the only thing in his post so it wasn't spam either. So the only law he is breaking is that it's impossible to go into negative IQ numbers.
I dont see what the big discussion is. I was giving an example of how there will always be morons/immature people on SEN.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-06-03 at 09:25:15
We should something like Yoshi's rule that he had in art+images. If you post your own separate topic for rate my sig your automatically banned from it because you couldnt read the rules. So in the whole site if you flame you are suspended right away and next time you are banned. because people will then people will not want to take a chance at flaming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-06-03 at 10:38:53
QUOTE(n2o-SiMpSoNs @ Jun 3 2006, 08:24 AM)
We should something like Yoshi's rule that he had in art+images. If you post your own separate topic for rate my sig your automatically banned from it because you couldnt read the rules. So in the whole site if you flame you are suspended right away and next time you are banned. because people will then people will not want to take a chance at flaming.[right][snapback]498332[/snapback][/right]
I had that idea once it didn't turn out ok. And it wasn't even that long of a discussion.
Voyager for the win
Well they're not exactly the same but close enough.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-06-03 at 11:36:36
Well, the new people are bound to make mistakes.
And it's not like we have this unlimited supply of people that will sign up for SEN. We can't just go ban everybody
And it's not like we have this unlimited supply of people that will sign up for SEN. We can't just go ban everybody
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ice_Inferno_X3 on 2006-06-03 at 12:07:23
people need to relax on these boards. sometimes people take things personally...but we can't fix that. so just live with the flaming and if you see someone flaming some else just step back