Staredit Network

Here's an idea... first, improve upon the review system's code. Then, whatever gets over a certain rating from the reviewers (anyone can review a map) becomes premium. This prevents anyone thinking "THIS MAP SUX LOL!!!11" from having their vote go in, as well as the "MY CLAN MEMBER? 10/10!!". Only reviews that are decently written with validly reasoned reviews showing that the person has actually played the map would have a vote attached. No special people getting votes in... only those willing to take time to form and express an honest opinion.

Giving the public the reins would work if you could count on them, but you really can't. Using regulars would help, but not all regulars are also good at making reviews. Also, what if no one votes for a map?

If you designated people for the job, and made it part of their requirement to cover all submitted maps, then you'd avoid a lot of those stalemates. If you don't want elitism, then get a wide sample of reviewers. If you don't want stagnation, then turn them over every now and then.


The trick is coming up with good ways to handle both of those. I'm still thinking on that, actually.

A reviews council with rotating membership? o_O

Hey I'm just suggesting a way to avoid common problems with reviews systems I've seen. Any other way involves compromises, but there might not be a way around that if resources are limited.

Ok, let's do it without polls. But then let's go go go.

Actually I think it's not a bad idea to have people refiew a map and have a "Review judge" just to sort out the really good quality reviews. Us elitists are happy, and DEAD is happy.

I can go with that. The "review judges" would to have a rule in place to be backup if no one makes reviews for submitted entries after a certain length of time, though. Or else if the reviews of an entry are somehow inappropriate.

Now who is gonna be these "review judges", and how will they be measuring a given review?

With sense of logics, and their usual judgement. I don't think Moose will want to make thousands of definitions, small rules and procedures to describe how to rate a review - it's really more simple to put there somebody like you, Tuxedo Templar.

Review judges will be good current map makers. And their oppinion will not count more than other's oppinions.

But who would determine those? That goes back to the original elitism problem.

You will. Easy enough ? I think it is less elitism compared to the idea of having judges decide a map status.

People who has done awesome maps in the past 6 months?

So I'd end up making thousands of rules?

No, of course it'd have to be something simple. Without asking people to format their reviews, or include some mechanism to translate them into data (like proving a specific number or % rating), it would all fall down to sense to tell if a review indicates that a map is good or not. Unless the later can be managed, it'll be a bit haphazard, but'll have to do.


The only rules here should be for how judges should intervene. What I'd suggest is if it looks like there's some bias or dispute over a given map, if the map gets few or no reviews after a week or so, or if the reviews can't seem to give a solid yes or no ("this map is good but i dont like it" kinda things), then it should fall back on the judges to decide. And even if a map gets kudos from those who've reviewed it, at least one judge should "confirm" it before allowing it to be premium (depending upon how many judges are available).

I think it shouldn't be like if you want to post your oppinion you have to write a huge review. Some short references should also do.

It all depends on the Judge.

KEKEKE. Go go go Moosey, let's start something good today.

If this idea breaks through, it will be a huge step forward. Probably not all details were described (as probably Moose will find out when creating all this). But let's hope...

It depending on us will this work or fail. We won't let it down, will we?

Well, what can we do besides posting reviews ?

Well, what do we have to do besides posting reviews?

Do NOT make seperate categories for maps that are supposedly better than the rest. That's just dumb because these "premium" maps got their names because of people's opinions. How would you like it if you want people to play your map but nobody downloads it because it's not in the premium section, aka the "good map" category?

Maybe a Premium Map gets a 11/10 rating when getting it's status ? Or a mark "Premium Map" ?

That would be weird. I wonder if this is gona be made at all.

I'm still debating it as the rest of these people are. I'm still not sure if and how I want to implement it. I think just wiping the DLDB clean for v5 and reapproving things with quality standards would keep the crap out of the DLDB and eliminate the need for this.

Actually by eliminating the Crap you will not (and do not need to) eliminate Normal maps. But there will always be Very Good maps that need to be pointed out.

Oh and don't talk about v5 since it isn't coming out any time soon, wo we might as well paint the old walls in our old house, and put new furniture... in other words... cosmetics.