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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-10-22 at 22:32:30
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whats up with that?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pie_Sniper on 2006-10-22 at 22:58:43
That's a comment. It will be ignored by whatever is interpreting the CSS. I just put it there as a placeholder for the rest of the attributes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-10-24 at 20:34:15
If I were you I wouldn't use the scrollbar thing, it only works in IE, nothing else (as far as I know).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-10-24 at 22:57:57
QUOTE(Centreri @ Oct 24 2006, 07:34 PM)
If I were you I wouldn't use the scrollbar thing, it only works in IE, nothing else (as far as I know).
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I'm sure you can make it work on Fx somehow, as the browser window in skinned through CSS.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pie_Sniper on 2006-10-24 at 23:08:12
Yeah, but you have to do that yourself, don't you? Hm... You just gave me an idea. shifty.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-10-25 at 15:49:47
I do prefer FireFox over IE some of the time but i always just use IE so i couldn't care less about people viewing with firefox lol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-10-25 at 16:29:58
FX doesn't support things like the scrollbar editing that is not included in the current CSS versions. IE has those effects available to make more people use IE. You'd have to make an add-on for FX, and I'm not sure it's possible even with that. The scrollbar is not considered part of the website.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fatimid08 on 2006-10-25 at 18:10:22
You MUST care about people using other browsers. Even 1% of the whole web is millions of people. At least, make sure all the pages you design are valid CSS and XHTML, and that the layout you use is compatible with at least IE and Firefox or Netscape (doesn't really matter which, they got almost the same engine). It's really too bad that Microsoft doesn't follow standards and forces people to spend extra time debugging for browser compatibility.

Here is what I did for learning:

XML -> XHTML/CSS together -> VBScript/ASP (I don't suggest you do that, I had really bad experiences at how unprogramming-like this is) -> JavaScript (a little for HTML DOM and some dynamic content basically) -> VB6 (This was so hard after JavaScript, it's not consistent with standard programming either) ->C#/VB.Net (Now this is the best I've seen Microsoft come up with in YEARS, not saying it's the best though)


I think XML is really a must, it's basically a standard way of storing data that's recognized everywhere. XHTML is basically XML with CSS to render it, RSS is XML, SOAP as a database medium is XML, etc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-10-25 at 18:22:45
My next step would be to make sure whatever HTML you've learned is to the W3 standards. CSS isn't extremely complex, and it's really something I don't KNOW per se, but I use it as I go along. I couldn't design a stylesheet from scratch without looking at one. This has yet to affect me. tongue.gif Don't get me wrong, I know the basic syntax, properties, and attributes, but otherwise I do it as I go along.
I would go for PHP next. It's cool to design interactive things and code things that get processed on the server side.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-10-25 at 20:20:08
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You MUST care about people using other browsers. Even 1% of the whole web is millions of people. At least, make sure all the pages you design are valid CSS and XHTML, and that the layout you use is compatible with at least IE and Firefox


Meh good point i guess i'll do it smile.gif

i can't believe moose posted in here but yeah i think i might just learn a few more fundamentals and then just move to php straight off the bat.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-28 at 10:34:34
This is the way w3schools has them written...just the basics that you guys have been talking of, theres more but there not important!

HTML
XHTML
CSS
XML
JavaScript
VB Script
AJAX
SQL
PHP
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-10-28 at 10:59:49
Yes! Look at all the Java and VBScript I've needed. wink.gif I'll admit PHP can't do everything, but I would place it higher up. SQL wouldn't be much fun without PHP.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-10-28 at 22:49:36
Where can i get Visual Basics for free ( im cheap i know happy.gif )
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pie_Sniper on 2006-10-28 at 22:58:45
I'd stay away from anything with a "BASIC" in the name... If you mean VBScript, he was being sarcastic. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-10-28 at 23:02:01
i thought so at first too but you never know... hes a moose... and hes mini... and hes 2707 ... can never be too sure tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pie_Sniper on 2006-10-29 at 00:08:05
Well, actually you can since I know there's no Java or VBScript on this site. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-29 at 00:25:28
I hate java for code, it is the hardest of them all I think. I havent loooked into all of the codes yet, but out of the ones that I have java sure tops em all!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pie_Sniper on 2006-10-29 at 00:33:07
You need to go do some ASM.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-10-29 at 02:41:17
After mastering much of HTML, I went on to Macromedia Flash.


After Mastering that too, I started playing around with it's actionscript (which is very similar to javascript)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shocko on 2006-10-29 at 08:05:02
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Oct 28 2006, 11:40 PM)
After mastering much of HTML, I went on to Macromedia Flash.
After Mastering that too, I started playing around with it's actionscript (which is very similar to javascript)
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I'm doing macromedia flash in school right now and will be for the majority of the school year.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Knx. on 2006-10-29 at 08:12:50
Javascript would be nice, becouse its easy and you can learn some program language, after it get PHP or ASP, depends on what you want...

http://www.w3schools.com/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-10-29 at 09:20:23
Out of all the languages, AJAX is growing the fastest. Tis is mostly used to run normal windows programs inside a Web Browser, example going to a website and using Microsoft Word, without having Microsoft Word on your computer!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fatimid08 on 2006-10-29 at 10:09:21
AJAX is Asynchronous JavaScript And XML, it's basically to make request and update a page without reloading it. It's basically a technique on how to use JavaScript in your browser for background working, it's not some new technology or anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Knx. on 2006-10-29 at 10:15:37
QUOTE(fatimid08 @ Oct 29 2006, 12:09 PM)
AJAX is Asynchronous JavaScript And XML, it's basically to make request and update a page without reloading it. It's basically a technique on how to use JavaScript in your browser for background working, it's not some new technology or anything.
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What you mean by background working?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-10-29 at 10:55:45
That's not what AJAX does and AJAX is not a programming language, 7-7. And Java is easy compared to C/C++.
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