QUOTE(Doodan @ Nov 4 2006, 05:54 PM)
Nah, so long as you don't go nuts like some of the people I warn.
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SPAM! BANNED FAG!
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Nov 4 2006, 02:50 AM)
Some of you might have noticed that DEAD is no longer staff. This is because it was brought to our attention that he had multiple accounts.
DEAD had not one, not two, not even three, but seventeen accounts on SEN. As such, he has been fired as Staff and further punishment is being discussed. He used his accounts to rig polls by voting many times in them, among other things.
So, for your own sakes, please refrain from making extra accounts on this website.
I will grant amnesty for punishment for double accounts on the following conditions:
- The accounts have never clearly been used for malicious purposes.
- The owner of the accounts informs me or another senior Staff member about the accounts.
- One account is selected to continue on as the primary account, while the others get deleted.
If you have that extra closet account lurking around somewhere, I implore you to contact me. I'll try to be nice, but if I have to stumble across it while running IP scans, I won't be so nice.[right][snapback]582939[/snapback][/right]
rofl
I don't understand why you did this.. honestly...
TERRORIST~
Everyone can't be saints!
BUT SIXTEEN ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTS?!
17.. wow.. Well, I don't mind the least, the only problem is your staff position. I had hoped you had some account I actually knew on your list.
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Nov 4 2006, 05:49 PM)
I don't understand why you did this.. honestly...
TERRORIST~
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QUOTE(Chronophobia @ Nov 4 2006, 05:50 PM)
Everyone can't be saints!
BUT SIXTEEN ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTS?!
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I didn't hurt anymore. As I said before, it was experiment. A rather successful experiment actually.
QUOTE(SEN Rulebook)
7. Multiple accounts are not allowed, no excuses. Abusing multiple accounts to cheat on games or evade punishments will result in severe penalties. If you wish to change your username, use the item in the store.
QUOTE(DEAD @ Nov 4 2006, 06:54 AM)
I didn't hurt anymore. As I said before, it was experiment. A rather successful experiment actually.
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I liked you when i first met you on SC but for some time i've had no respect for you what so ever to be honest. I personally feel it's about time you was taken down as a moderator. And if you are proud you managed to get 17 accounts then you are pretty sad.
Shocko, he believes it was successful in that it made an example of how un-monitored double accounts are because of how long it took them to find it, not because of the sheer number he had.
It's still not an experiment I'd do, but whatever floats you boat.
thats a nice cover-up, blaming it on the administration :/
QUOTE(fritfrat(U) @ Nov 4 2006, 07:05 AM)
Shocko, he believes it was successful in that it made an example of how un-monitored double accounts are because of how long it took them to find it, not because of the sheer number he had.
It's still not an experiment I'd do, but whatever floats you boat.
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I understood what he meant but it doesn't change that he is sad to do such a thing.
How so? I would do it if I wasn't wary of being suspended/banned. It's called an experiment. How is this sadder then scientists when they figured out all the elements? That was a tad more productive, but this is more interesting.
QUOTE(Centreri @ Nov 4 2006, 07:13 AM)
How so? I would do it if I wasn't wary of being suspended/banned. It's called an experiment. How is this sadder then scientists when they figured out all the elements? That was a tad more productive, but this is more interesting.
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"oh yeah i made the accounts because i wanted to test the admins"
how is that not a stupid thing to say?
like it's double accounting maybe not the biggest of offences if you ask me but to say that he was testing the moderators is a sad sad excuse. Scientists figuring out elements and a guy blaming an internet admin for having 17 accounts is TOTALLY different.
He is sad in my opinion for doing this and it's not an open debate about it because it's my opinion doesn't have to be yours.
Who the hell cares about expirements, I care about rigging polls..
Centreri, that was a pretty bad analogy, lol.
I suppose it is sad in a way, because if his sole intent was to test the administration then he wouldn't have rigged polls. I really don't care enough about the issue, though, I have to admit.
QUOTE(Shocko @ Nov 4 2006, 06:20 PM)
"oh yeah i made the accounts because i wanted to test the admins"
how is that not a stupid thing to say?
like it's double accounting maybe not the biggest of offences if you ask me but to say that he was testing the moderators is a sad sad excuse. Scientists figuring out elements and a guy blaming an internet admin for having 17 accounts is TOTALLY different.
He is sad in my opinion for doing this and it's not an open debate about it because it's my opinion doesn't have to be yours.
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Shocko, you just don't care about the "political" situation in SEN. He does.
And if he did rig polls, why didn't he play the raffle and the magic boxes also?
QUOTE(Jamatul_101 @ Nov 4 2006, 07:59 AM)
Shocko, you just don't care about the "political" situation in SEN. He does.
And if he did rig polls, why didn't he play the raffle and the magic boxes also?
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Oh yes he totally cared about the "political" situation in SEN because he made 17 accounts to see how long it would take for them to notice.
He even admited to rigging a pole with his accounts so don't try defending him for that.
Bottom line it was a sad excuse for a stupid thing to do.
Shocko, you think that I made 16 additional accounts just to have some extra votes on stupid polls? Why the hell would I do that? It's not that easy to register so many accounts.
Double accounts is a big problem today. But as I've proven it with this little thing, discovering them is even bigger problem.
Uhh, not really... just doing a scan like the one DTBK did isn't that big of a deal every now and then..
QUOTE(Jamatul_101 @ Nov 4 2006, 08:59 AM)
Shocko, you just don't care about the "political" situation in SEN. He does.
And if he did rig polls, why didn't he play the raffle and the magic boxes also?
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....first of all dead admitted to rigging polls, or adleast he didn't argue that he didn't.
Who said he didn't play the raffle and magic boxes? That would require those accounts having minerals, which is a bit of work don't you think? Maybe you guys don't understand that DEAD broke the rules and did quite the over kill of double accounts, Shocko thinks it sad that he calls it an "experiment" almost, if not as a justification. DEAD "did bad" that is what is wrong. Trying to say 17 accounts is a mere experiment...thats is what some people consider sad.
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Nov 4 2006, 11:30 AM)
Uhh, not really... just doing a scan like the one DTBK did isn't that big of a deal every now and then..
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Except that (as far as I know) this scan requires that you search for a specific IP. Unless you suspect a certain member, it's not really helpful.
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Nov 4 2006, 07:30 PM)
Uhh, not really... just doing a scan like the one DTBK did isn't that big of a deal every now and then..
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I believe they can only scan for specific IPs, so you must know who has the double account before you search for them.
I see, my mistake. Maybe that won't be the case then, I'm not sure. There are other ways to make a case than breaking the rules with 15 other accounts. I think it's just a cover-up, anyway.
Don't get me wrong, what DEAD did was wrong, and there should be consequences for his actions, I'm just saying it's not really as big of a deal as everyone makes it out to be. He changed the outcome of one poll that had little (if any) effect on SEN. Calling him a "double agent" and a "terrorist" plotting to destroy SEN is a bit extreme...
When I called him a terrorist, it was a joke. That's what he calls every OSMAP supporter... ;\