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Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2004-09-06 at 17:09:22
QUOTE(EruIluvatar @ Sep 5 2004, 11:01 PM)
Actually no.  The Russian special forces (Spetsnaz) is the one of the most thorough teams in the world, probably second to the SAS of course (aquiescing to Will lol).  They are also trained for nuclear disasters.
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Cheers! wink.gif

Really though - the Russian Special Forces keep bungling operations at the moment. They used to be good, but they seem to be becoming less high quality than they once were.

First was the Moscow theatre siege where they accidentally shot hostages and pumped the wrong gas into the building (I can't remember clearly though - I'm probably wrong).
Now we have this debacle where 350 people die and the special forces let terrorists escape because the cordon they built around the danger area was flimsy and badly guarded (Armed civilians stormed the building and in the confusion some militants fled).

To their credit though, they managed to kill some of the escaped terrorists.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nyczdigga on 2004-09-06 at 17:44:17
They use excuses to kill for fun. I think they raped some girls in the gym. God damn, terrorist censored.gif. Its like for example, "I LOVE ALLAH, THIS IS FOR ALLAH", then the terrorist kills the kid for fun.. disgust.gif. Mother :censored:ers. Its like 9-11, and other terrorist censored.gif , they just want to have fun and blow censored.gif , its not for political, general reasons. Just like the beheadings, recent one was beheading/executing 7 nepalians.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by frank_pivo_4 on 2004-09-06 at 20:29:08
Fine death to all islam extreminist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2004-09-06 at 22:03:29
Whatever works to solve this problem I'm for. But we don't have to go extreme.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Templaren on 2004-09-07 at 04:25:04
yeah i little scary.. i think what russia can do with norway... russia is extremely poor and a lot of army
Norway is a neigboorhood country and is world richest country and has no army.. think if russia just goes insane over defense free norway
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2004-09-07 at 15:00:02
The Russians aren't aggressive communists anymore, Templaren - they wouldn't just march into Norway and claim it for a number of reasons:

1. They can hardly administrate their own country, let alone a captured territory.
2. Gone are the days of aggressive leaders such as Stalin.
3. The current Russian government is concerned with internal problems.
4. Russia has all the natural resources and potential money it needs. It's just difficult for them to organise everything properly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2004-09-07 at 15:27:27
you should change your thoughts about Russia in general... its not what it used to be
as for the terrorists - bomb to hell
this might sound insane but i dont give a :censored:ing censored.gif about those killed hostages
Report, edit, etc...Posted by frank_pivo_4 on 2004-09-07 at 17:25:45
Wow ur a :censored:ing a idiot.What country are u from anyways.I cant tell by that gay flag that no one even knows of.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .matrix//Merovingian on 2004-09-08 at 00:39:19
QUOTE(frank_pivo_4 @ Sep 7 2004, 02:25 PM)
Wow ur a :censored:ing a idiot.What country are u from anyways.I cant tell by that gay flag that no one even knows of.
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The flag you speak of is the flag of Latvia. Lisk is a Latvian, and, according to his signature, he doesn't give a censored.gif about anything (hence his rather insensitive comment on the hostages).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by frank_pivo_4 on 2004-09-08 at 04:03:48
Hes a ass..... and i may have been wrong i cant judge a country by ONE DUMBASS.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2004-09-08 at 05:29:36
ive heard that russia don't respect hostage rights as much as other countries if their demand is for large amounts of money but for not many lives. Unlike the US, they usually do things for 1 or 2 lives .. i'm not saying they shouldn't because that would be sad for their family and everyone. but what I'm saying id the US do really respect their citizens lives.

hoping u guys don't get confused, the 9-11 attk is not led by Osama Bin Laden.. it was this other guy. However Osama do have links. I've read s quote that says something like this about the terrorists aim.
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We are something something to eradicate the corrupted something (goverment) etc. .... unaware of our lives to build up a better something


... something of the sort. .. didn't really make sense.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2004-09-09 at 17:12:05
Death to all terrorists! We should torture the bastards; it's nothing more than they deserve!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2004-09-10 at 07:52:12
Poor comrades that were killed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-09-10 at 11:17:06
Calm down now, frank_pivo_4. This topic is to discuss that sad event, not flame other people's cultures and beliefs... Consider it a lil warning? ...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2004-09-11 at 06:01:13
every country has its share of censored.gifs, freaks, perverts and so on
as for the hostages - i dont know them, why should i rly care about them if even noone i know knew them?

oh yeah im Russian =)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by frank_pivo_4 on 2004-09-11 at 06:08:54
I think putin he sucks ass.If stalin was in power most of the chechnyans be dead by now or in siberia.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FizzleBoink on 2004-09-11 at 07:22:42
The Chechens and Russians have had a long history of conflicts together, the school hostage taking had a purpose and that was to display that Chechnyans are still willing to assault the Russians. (Two religions clashing *Islamic and Christianity*)

The Russian-Chechen conflict we know today began decades ago with the attempt of the Muslim province to secede in 1810. Russia's attempts to keep the oil pipeline holding province has been successful but violent and continues today.

In 1990, after the fall of the U.S.S.R. many nations seceded from the Soviet Republic, including Georgia, Latvia, and Ukraine. Russia had several reasons to keep Chechnya, but they wanted to make an example out of Chechnya and attack the breakaway province in order to maintain ownership. When former Chechen president Dudaev declared independance in 1994, Boris Yeltsin declared war, and Former Chechen president Muskhadov declared independance again in 1999 and on and off fighting has continued.

President Vladimir Putin continues to attack Chechnya today in order to stifle the Muslim movement against Russia. Putin claims victory in Chechnya but has only devastated the tiny republic, not pacified it.

Hard line Chechens seccionists still wage a pitilesswar of urban terrorism in Russia, displayed by the March 15, 2001 Plane Hi-Jacking, Moscow bombings, and the recent school raids.

And if Stalin was still alive frank... Chechens may or may not be gone.. because Stalin sucks at Military Command.. keep note.. he also opted to give the Chechen’s their own republic but it failed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2004-09-11 at 09:05:32
QUOTE(Lisk @ Sep 11 2004, 11:01 AM)
every country has its share of censored.gifs, freaks, perverts and so on
as for the hostages - i dont know them, why should i rly care about them if even noone i know knew them?

oh yeah im Russian =)
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The fact that you don't them shouldn't stop you from feeling a slight amount of caring for humanity.

And if you're Russian then why do you have a Latvian flag (One of my local football team's strikers is Latvian by the way - Marian Pahars)? Unless you consider yourself a Latvian Russian?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2004-09-11 at 12:40:03
i do get the feelings its bad and all and like kill the terrorists but nothing more than "yep that wasnt good, they should all die, censored.gifs"

most ppl who live in Latvia are Russians -.-
to latvians im russian, to russians im latvian, simple =)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2004-09-11 at 17:29:29
I feel bad for those comrades that were killed. Mostly the kids, Kids are too young to die anyways! Damn guy who thinks he's God, I swear these days. Terrorists are getting more and more stupid. They should giveup. They should know the Americans never do stop the fighting. Back in 1700 hundreds, Amercian fought one of the most powerfull army in the world in that time, They also fought a long, cold war, and won! Don't forget the other war of U.K. back in 1812. Were the U.K. attack the Americans. The Americans were borning to fight. Everyone I see at least 2 Americans fighting at school, Or sometimes a huge group fight. There was a fight on my bus on Friday, You can't remember that one General's name back in WW2 his famous speech. "All of the other countries think we don't like to fight. Thats all bull censored.gif , We Americans love to fight, I'll be glad to lead you into battle!" Remember that speech in African. Don't forget. Amercia is one of the most powerfull country and it's young, America is about 400 years old and it's one of the toughest countries today. I hope the Amercians get that son of censored.gif(Osman Bin Laden) He deserves to die for the people who was killed in the Twin Towers. Hope North Korea better get their asses kicked for their Nuclear Projects. Damn Koreans, always hated them. :censored:en basterd(President) Trains their children to fight and shoot! Thats all I can say for now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by €Hawk€ on 2004-09-20 at 23:26:32
Those terrorists who held hostages were stupid! What do they want from the world?!?!?! They can't rule it! It's not their freakin world! Earth belongs to the people who respect each other, not those idiots who think violence is the only answer. mad.gif
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