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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-10-06 at 23:51:46
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start with Python, it's easier than VB the Tutorial is really good


Or I can teach it to you. I'd have an uber Python-powered website if I could get my hosting person to install pyXML on the server... GRRR
Report, edit, etc...Posted by synd][cate on 2004-10-06 at 23:55:52
Just reading the python website... sounds like basic to me.

- Python uses an elegant syntax for readable programs.
- Python is an agile language that makes it easy to get your program working. This makes Python an ideal language for prototype development and other ad-hoc programming tasks, without compromising maintainability

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req = urllib2.Request(theurl)
try:
    handle = urllib2.urlopen(req)
except IOError, e:                  # here we are assuming we fail
    pass
else:                               # If we don't fail then the page isn't protected
    print "This page isn't protected by authentication."
    sys.exit(1)
   
if not hasattr(e, 'code') or e.code != 401:                 # we got an error - but not a 401 error
    print "This page isn't protected by authentication."
    print 'But we failed for another reason.'
    sys.exit(1)


From this little bit of code I looked up.. Python makes you write out logical statements in plain english ... bah. Doesn't use line delimitors such as ";" found in languages such as c,pascal, php, perl.. which is very annoying if you ever programmed in a language that required them and then go back to one that doesnt.

I'd say php > python anyday.. it's just as simple if not easier all together. More people are developing php so it has more of a future and more people willing to help you. php is sexy!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-10-06 at 23:57:29
Python is more down-to-earth and more powerful than basic. smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by illusion(SS) on 2004-10-07 at 00:28:38
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Anyhow, the first thing to do is I would recommend to try VB. Next, figure out what you want to make, research what you need (for instance, to make a bot you will need to figure out what packets to send, and in what order, what servers to connect to etc.). Making an advanced program like this isnt about learning the language. There are things you have to learn.. (for a sc editor, you have to learn how a .chk is built up) etc.


you wana know what i wana make? the first thing i want to make is a text encoder, where you would paste a message in the area, enter the password, and hit encode, or decode, encode and it will encode the whol emessage (scamble) using the formula you entered, and then the message will be put into another box, witch you can read, or copy and paste it into Aim or something.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2004-10-07 at 02:28:50
Just for fun or out of necessity?
You could easily make a noobified (as in simple) program of that in any language.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-10-07 at 19:02:45
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I'd say php > python anyday.


intersting...so php is also a programming language?.. i'm so slow these days cry.gif

trust me, python is very very simple..just need to learn the syntax and from there, you're off!! happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-10-07 at 20:06:32
synd][cate has a point that if you start using languages without line delimiters, you end up forgetting them when you need them. Theough I know that Python can do everying that PHP can do. closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2004-10-07 at 20:55:12
Well I'm in Algebra in the 7th grade so I can learn Visual Basic, hmm now just to d/l it and to find a teacher with msn messenger, anyone volunteering?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-10-07 at 21:02:13
Wow.. 7th grade algebra I'm so impressed. dots.gif

btw, I'm in 8th grade and in Agebra II/Trig

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grade so I can learn Visual Basic, hmm now just to d/l it and to find a teacher with msn messenger, anyone volunteering?


Don't got any IMs but I'll teach you it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-10-07 at 21:23:28
Hmm.. computer language sounds interesting. I migth start to learn some of them.

can anyone make a list of the different languages there are(C++, python, Visual basic...) and then tell me what can I make with each one.
BTW: I'm a computer language dummy so don't tell me that you can make a syntax thing with whatever encoding whatchamacallit. Tell me something like this:

IE:
BeeR Language - Make complex games and websites
Keg++ - make almost anything
jwfnjka - mostley website and network

Stuff like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-10-08 at 00:01:52
Let's see what I can come up with:

Python - everything you can think of
C++ - applications (compatible with most OSes)
C# - applications (Windows only)
C - What most basic microsoft program are written in closedeyes.gif
Basic - and old obsolete language used for few things these days
Visual Basic - an easier version of basic
Java - Web scripting and cross-platform applets
PHP - web scripting
Perl - web scripting

There are literally hundreds more though...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-10-08 at 00:29:31
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Well I'm in Algebra in the 7th grade so I can learn Visual Basic, hmm now just to d/l it and to find a teacher with msn messenger, anyone volunteering?

Part-time Algebra 1 in 6th grade. I did stuff out of the textbook we use in my algrebra textbook right now (8th) in 6th.
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Well I'm in Algebra in the 7th grade so I can learn Visual Basic, hmm now just to d/l it and to find a teacher with msn messenger, anyone volunteering?

Still looking for my ebook. I'll find it.
EDIT: I found it, should I put it as an attachment, or put it on my site, or what?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarkDeath19 on 2004-10-10 at 18:31:16
Where can you download python or do you have to purchase it (does it come with a manual?)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarkDeath19 on 2004-10-10 at 18:31:19
Where can you download python or do you have to purchase it (does it come with a manual?)

why did 2 posts just occur?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SpaceBoy2000 on 2004-10-10 at 18:43:16
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Java - Web scripting and cross-platform applets


Actually, Javascript is very different than Java. Java can be used to make programs and applets. Javascript is for webscripting. Java is object-oriented, while Javascript is...well...I really don't know the right term here, since I dived into Java after going through RM2K and SC. Though I really want to learn assembly...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2004-10-20 at 02:25:30
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Oct 7 2004, 08:02 PM)
Wow.. 7th grade algebra I'm so impressed. dots.gif

btw, I'm in 8th grade and in Agebra II/Trig
Don't got any IMs but I'll teach you it.
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i tried that but they said i was too stupid. yeah the teacher sed i was too stupid for trig in 7th. that censored.gif er was gonna get a beating for that but i have more anger control now. oh and im learning c++. i cant wait to put class and inheritance to its maximum effect in an rpg smile.gif

then make an FPS....

oh and i got a question. when you develop a graphics engine do you just borrow from runtime files or do you actually code out the way graphics are interpretted and stuff.... or are they just pictures?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by illusion(SS) on 2004-10-20 at 19:24:22
so... is anyone going to help me here?
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