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Report, edit, etc...Posted by illusion(SS) on 2004-10-04 at 20:53:12
well. i've decided i wana laern c++ to make programs and censored.gif . is anyone willing to teach, or if not, does anyone know someone who will, OR, got a website or totorial that can teach me. i dont want this to be too hard. i just wana learn the basics and move my way up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowSnipe4 on 2004-10-04 at 20:55:17
Not sure if this is what your looking for, but it has a lot of great tutorials!
http://tutorialized.com
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wolf on 2004-10-04 at 20:55:48
i would try searching in google for a site to teach you happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-10-04 at 21:01:08
hum C++ is hard... Better start with Visual Basic before doing this!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by greenreaper on 2004-10-04 at 21:08:44
If anyone knows...what is the easiest programming language to learn?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-10-04 at 21:08:58
I can teach Visual Basic! Don't know C++ Though....

I also know Python, and a tiny teeny bit of Java.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-10-04 at 21:10:04
The easiest are Visual Basic i think But i'm not sure at all!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2004-10-04 at 21:12:13
Learning VB won't help you learn C++. It'll probably confuse you more than anything.

www.codeguru.com
http://www.cplusplus.com/ perhaps?
or just google it: +"c++" +"tutorials"
or something similar

And then... if you are looking to get out of the stupid dos box, you'll have to go another step further and learn how to use directx in c++.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-10-04 at 21:14:10
Isolate: The truth is i don't even tryed Any kind of programming instead RPG Maker... All I know there is : visual basic, C++ and C/C++
Report, edit, etc...Posted by illusion(SS) on 2004-10-04 at 21:17:07
first of all, are there programs to make things with c++?
second, do vido game makers use c++?

ADDITION: i just realized how kiddy that sounds..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-10-04 at 21:19:36
There are probably automation programs and code samples you can use to help make things. You just need a compiler to take the code into an executable.

Video game makers can use C++. I'm not really sure what they use exactly, but I do know Turok for N64 was made in C++. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by man6311 on 2004-10-04 at 21:24:51
QUOTE(Sessase @ Oct 4 2004, 07:01 PM)
hum C++ is hard... Better start with Visual Basic before doing this!
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I agree with Sessase virtual Basic is alot better to start out with. C++ can get difficult if you don't know your fundimentals. its like math you can't do geometry unless you know algebra.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2004-10-04 at 21:27:18
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first of all, are there programs to make things with c++?
second, do vido game makers use c++?

1. A complier such as Visual Basic C++ (part of the visual studio 6 from microsoft) or borland's complier are the two big ones. If you want the hookup just pm me.
2. Most video game makers use c++.

I'll sell you my account name/password for my virtual library account with multiples upon multiples of programming books (as well as networks, security, and such as) for 9700 minerals.


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Isolate: The truth is i don't even tryed Any kind of programming instead RPG Maker... All I know there is : visual basic, C++ and C/C++

Then how can you say visual basic is the easiest? It's like saying eating deer tastes bad when you haven't even tasted it. Anyways, you're wrong... qbasic is the easiest and pwnz all of you.

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There are probably automation programs and code samples you can use to help make things.

But that's not actually learning.

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I agree with Sessase virtual Basic is alot better to start out with. C++ can get difficult if you don't know your fundimentals. its like math you can't do geometry unless you know algebra.

More like saying you have to learn algebra before you learn english. Fundimentals can be learned in any language, no language is going to teach you it any easier. Declaring a variable, arrays, loops, etc are basically the same in vb and in c++. However, vb is event driven and c++ is object orientied so why bother censored.gif ing around with an entirely different language before learning what you want to learn? VB is best for fast production of an api or prototypes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wolf on 2004-10-04 at 21:29:23
QUOTE(man6311 @ Oct 4 2004, 08:24 PM)
I agree with Sessase virtual Basic is alot better to start out with. C++ can get difficult if you don't know your fundimentals. its like math you can't do geometry unless you know algebra.
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thats very true, i mean it took me a long time to learn C++... and i learned it the hard way, i still haven't learned it compleatly yet but i'm getting better at it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by illusion(SS) on 2004-10-04 at 21:54:10
anyway is fine for me, hard, easy, i just wana learn it. but i would perfer the easyer way
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2004-10-04 at 22:10:59
...I learned C++ and haven't learned Visual Basic. Does that make me weird? Although it helped alot in PHP...
Well, I know C++, but with school and stuff I barely have enough time to be here, so I can't post a tutorial. I still might have my Ebook on it though. I'll have to check

Also: Some people who make games use C# too.
Also2: Shoouyld this be in 3rd party, or creative?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarkDeath19 on 2004-10-04 at 22:12:28
I have no clue of what you guys are talking about, i would like to learn programming though, i hear its hard and challenging maybe i will try this summer to learn a little bit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2004-10-04 at 22:24:34
Almost all games are written in C++

Microsoft uses C except for everything else except networking.

VB syntax is easier then C++ syntax.. but.

there are too many VB programmers.. how many vb bots are there compared to c++ bots?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-10-05 at 08:03:18
QUOTE(greenreaper @ Oct 4 2004, 08:08 PM)
If anyone knows...what is the easiest programming language to learn?
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The easiest is Python.
Obviously, Visual Basic is easier than C++ and Java
C++ and Java are very similar, if you know one, then learning the other won't take very long. happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-10-05 at 10:28:28
Python owns! It's easy and can be used for anything (CGI scripting, text based command lines, or GUIs) *gives Cheeze high-five*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2004-10-05 at 23:34:17
I understand coding stuff in general but not syntax stuff, though i like analyzing codes and seeing how they work. I think i first got into it while looking at how to program in C or Vb or Java for lego wink.gif still dont no any of them though
i juat no that you have variables and statements and expressions and different things like if and or while do switch and other things
Also doesnt a good understanding of math such as algebra also help in programming?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-10-05 at 23:53:57
Hey come on man youknow i suck at english just let me explain myself:

I already tried Visual basic, but i dind't were able to make something... When i try C++ it's alot more complicated.. i mean it took 20 min to understand how to open the prog happy.gif

Well i tlk to some programmer sometime when i traw the question they all told me to start with visual basic... or taking leason. I'm NOT a programmer but i know enough to start in programming... i just don't have time to learn it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2004-10-06 at 19:29:57
QUOTE(Sessase @ Oct 5 2004, 10:53 PM)
Hey come on man youknow i suck at english just let me explain myself:

I already tried Visual basic, but i dind't were able to make something... When i try C++ it's alot more complicated.. i mean it took 20 min to understand how to open the prog happy.gif

Well i tlk to some programmer sometime when i traw the question they all told me to start with visual basic... or taking leason. I'm NOT a programmer but i know enough to start in programming... i just don't have time to learn it...
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If you dont have time to learn it, dont do it.

Anyhow, the first thing to do is I would recommend to try VB. Next, figure out what you want to make, research what you need (for instance, to make a bot you will need to figure out what packets to send, and in what order, what servers to connect to etc.). Making an advanced program like this isnt about learning the language. There are things you have to learn.. (for a sc editor, you have to learn how a .chk is built up) etc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-10-06 at 21:12:37
start with Python, it's easier than VB the Tutorial is really good smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by synd][cate on 2004-10-06 at 23:43:28
QUOTE(Shmeeps @ Oct 4 2004, 09:10 PM)
...I learned C++ and haven't learned Visual Basic. Does that make me weird? Although it helped alot in PHP...
Well, I know C++, but with school and stuff I barely have enough time to be here, so I can't post a tutorial. I still might have my Ebook on it though. I'll have to check


No, not wierd it makes you smart cause visual basic is a pos newb language... I have never learned basic either. In the time it took you to learn basic you could have spent that time learning something thats actually useful.
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