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That's making a new StarEdit, not porting it from OS 9 to OS X. It cost them nothing to make StarCraft into OS X from OS 9.

Wow. Well, hi hi everyone, yet again I have returned. I've spent the last three months ing around in the military, and came out of it with nearly nothing. I learned a lot, but hear me this, if you're looking to make money, that ain't it.

Anyway, I see that there's a LOT more interest with mac users in mapmaking on this 10 year old game than I had ever thought. I got an email the other day from some guy at TMProductionz.com wanting permission to post starfireedit on his site. There's problems with starfire edit though. One thing that a lot of mac users hate is that you have to run it in classic. As everything else, including this new stupid patch being talked about, it's just an mpq patch. With classic you lose all the nice things apple has given us like the dock, the interface, and let's not forget exposé, which is probably the coolest thing they've come out with yet (only to be matched by the stuff in tiger). On top of that, it runs like crap when you've got a second OS running.

The other problem is in the way I got all the units and buildings organized so that you could easily access them. I did that by changing ownership in units.dat, but this unfortunately has the side effect of keeping them from showing up at all in the players panel and in triggers, so it really kills itself. I'm not sure what I can work out with this, but due to the large interest, I'll probably fix it soon.

The old mac site, Mac Customs Lair, has not died, but simply retreated to http://customs.no-ip.com. That site, however, only gets one update about every 6 months now. No new tools are being created nor old tools completed. I'll see what tools I can grab from there to put on the mac files section here, since SEN seems to be a much safer place for them right now.

One thing I can say, which is good news, is that I've talked to suicidal insanit, and though the PC version of SCMD2 is basically put on hold due to college, the mac version is being crunched out all on its own. He tells me that there will be a beta test coming in a few weeks, so I can keep you up to date on that. I would like to make my own mapmaking tools for OSX, as well as a mac version of StarDraft, so that we could do everything as good or better than PC users, but I haven't got the time or the programming skills right now. I should have time over the next 6 or 7 months though, and as learning to program would help jump start my college majors, I'll do what I can. No promises though.

Addition- For all 500 or so mac users screwing around here, I suggest picking up "Quicksilver" from http://www.macupdate.com. It is, hands down, the most useful and shiny program that I've picked up in months.

early screenshot:

I hate to say this but a lot of those signatures are fake, and Blizzard definitely won't accept anything from THAT website. Don't forget, I could make up a bunch of fake names and send it to Blizzard too!

What I'm pointing out is that there is no way to tell real from fake here, therefore Blizzard will definitely NOT accept that.

meh...those Mac users... ...lol jp

Woah... Well, that's either a lot of progress or else a rather extravagant hoax. Either way, the GUI needs work ;P, or what of it I can see, anyway. The left side seems screwed up, and though it's good that the minimap is nice and squished up top left, it ought to be centered on SOMETHING o.0. Also, with all the font smoothing and crap in OSX, you still have that crappy bitmapped font for engine messages?

well .. Thats the reason why I said it's an early screenhot ;P The GUI isn't done. I am quite happy that it draws the minimap at all
As for the font .. It's the font that the windows version uses, it's the original sc font ... I like it, it stays

[center]Is that screen shot is just a skeletal application with just a .nib with .rsrc images in it, I could emulate that in under 10 minutes...
I have heard about the Mac SCMDraft port, so I'm hoping that's not what it is...[/center]

lol

I wouldn't laugh at that too much if I were you. When I looked at the screen shot, that's what I thought too ;o. I'm simply going on what SI has told me over what it blatantly looks like in your screen shot because I trust SI for some odd reason. Anyway, while I can't help with programming, I can help with making program icons and doing distro packaging. It's always nice to have shiny graphics and a little installer with your program =P.

Oh yea, and it might be the original SC font on WINDOWS, but the SC font on mac was never that ugly ;[.

WootWoot! Its about time us Macintosh mappers get some recognition. I make lots of Rpg UMS's for broodwar, but its hard to compete when PPL who choose mainstream computing get awesome programs like StarForge 2. Ever since mac.custom.lair finally croaked its been hell finding staredit helpers for us mac user's out there. Currently, i still use a good version of mac emerald staredit to help make my maps but i cant finish any of my good ideas for SC rpg's without the advanced capailities that serious PC mappers have with StarForge. Its funny cause i have a bunch of empty terrain map's that could be used for rpg's cause i never finished them cause i knew they couldn"t compete with other quality rpgs...

So its very exciting to here the RPG and MAC communities reviving even by just a little cause it is good encouragement to start releasing quality UMS's for people to enjoy. "SOB"

P.S. I could possibly have a copy of SC Spectrum on my deleted hardisk if i can unerase it, (note SC spectrum for Mac is a ingame colorer that is now extinct.

[center]SC Spectrum only work with classic SC, so it's not that useful. It's just a spoofer... if someone ported it to X, and got it to work in all text fields in SC, that would be nifty.
MCL hasn't died, KarlKFI is hosting it on his G5 at college.http://128.195.96.138/mcl/

Haplo; can you work with .icns files? If so, I have a little project for you...[/center]

1:I uploaded all the old utils from mac customs lair and such, they're just waiting to be approved.

2:I have cancombineicons and a ridiculous collection of shiny icons (about 25MB of hand picked icons from every worthwhile set out there). I also have photoshop7 and some decent skill there. If you have any project in mind, I can probably deliver on it ;P. I talked to DW, and I'll be doing the distro crap for Mac SCMD. I already have icons for the app, the installer, the disk image, and SCMs and SCXs, which I'll post here (zip).

3:I really had no idea there were so many mac mapmakers besides myself out there. I have had to emulate and use SF/SCMD2 (mainly SF because it has a superior triggering system) in order to keep up with mapmaking. I've been talking with DW, and hopefully I will be able to get Mac SCMD to present to us a program that uses all of the nice things OSX has for us in a development environment. The fact that it's OSX at all means that we'll get exposé and a nicer GUI, but if we add things like spotlight-esque unit/building selection and similar triggering, then it becomes a true mac application, rather than just a crappy PC port. I don't know if I'll be able to convince him to make an SF-like trigedit for us, but if not I'll do it myself (I need to learn to program anyway). Either way, I'll see what kind of nifty things I can get for us. Since I started using quicksilver, my conception about how things can work efficiently in a development environment have changed significantly, and I want all of that to show up in SCMD.

For those of you who haven't used starforge (those of us too poor or too honest to get/run VPC) it'll be a big change. One thing that will be very new is the fact that now you'll need to be sure to end every statement in ;. It'll screw you over ;P. (That's assuming that the autocomplete function in trigedit isn't nice enough to insert all of that crap for you anyway.)
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[center]Those icons look ALOT like StarFire Edit... But they still look awesome.
Anyway, would you be willing to make a quite simple icon for me? It's just stacking 1 icon on-top of another... PM me if you will do it...
I'd love to see a Mac editor in the future... I was working on my own for a bit, but it's on hold for now...
I have some questions about SCMDraft mac:
Is SCMDraft Mac being built with XCode, and Project Builder?
Is it a .nib based application?
How can people help with development?[/center]

I'd love to help out in any way possible, but unfortunately I know nothing of programming so I suppose I'm outta luck.

Just spend 200 bucks and get a PC made sometime in the last 5 years, sheesh!

Or we could all buy AK-47s for about the same amount, then come to your house for a blanket party.

Actually guys i have a PC desktop computer sitting right next to my G4 Cube that i use for my main computer, but i only have 1 monitor and its a Mac studio LCD thats really nice but i cant find an adapter to use it on the PC i have. I done want to waste money buying a CR**Y CRT that takes up too much space when i can use my good LCD. Also new LCD's still cost MUCHO$$ so i'm kinda in a bind. Now im forced to consider PC emulation; my OS is .9 which is way better than x in terms of control and compatibility.

That's retarded. OSX is FAR better for PC compatibility in both networking and file support, not to mention it looks a hell of a lot nicer, is far more stable, and has cool features like exposé that make development type stuff a lot easier. I'll ask DW what he's doing, since he apparently has remote control software for his PC (or maybe it's the other way around), however, he uses X. I use X. We all use X. All new software is only FOR X. Are we getting the point or do I have to pound it harder?

its just photoshopped, there are no plans, the 100 times I mentioned plans I was lying.....

[center]Please be sarcasm! I'll be pissed if all this is a hoax! [/center]

lol

is it a hoax?

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also, when is a updated version of SCM draft 2 coming out?

I have 0 time till mid of feb, then depending on whether I get a job or not I may have some more time. its pretty advanced but a few things aren't ready

Well there go our hopes...