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we could just leave but it would end up to bite us in the ass...

Actually, its the country doesn't support the war any more, in the begining most americans did support the war. Its not that they want to pull out now, its they don't support the war any more. Pulling out now would be EXTREMELY STUPID, far more stupid then anything Bush has ever done. Far more stupid then invading Iraq. Americans don't support the war, but realize we can't pull out now.

But if we hadn't have rushed in, we would have been able to pull out sooner.

We rushed into it. Which was a big no no.

I agree with Kellimus. It was a rushed affair.

No, it just wasn't well devised.

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EXACTLY. We rushed the planning!

Thus making it, rushed.

Ya we rushed it.

I mean our generals did a great manuever to take over bagdad and Iraq, but didn't plan for the insurgency.

On Topic:

You know, if you really care about swaying normal people over to your view you will need to change your tactics. You would need to prove...
1) 9/11 and the USS Cole never happened
2) George Bush (not General Tommy Franks of CENTCOM)planned this war.
3) George Bush's income has actually increased because of the war.

Wait wait wait, what?! Are you saying people would vote for Bush because his personal income increased?

You can't prove that 9/11 didn't happen... It's just dumb to even try to do so. And to "sway people" to our side, they just need to be told the truth about the Republican Party, well, at least the Truth about the Bush Administration.

Uhh....? No one cares about who started it. We just all agree it is bad.

Like I said earlier "Tax break for the rich! *uck the poor!" That proves right there that he has had an increase in income because he gave breaks to the rich friends of his (Including him) Thus, making the middle and lower class pay more to make up for the lost taxes from the break. Think about it logically!



No. He was saying that if we are going to "sway" people to our side, we're going to have to prove that, which I did in the above statement.

I said becuase of the war, but ya I geuss that does help him, AND since he was re-elected, his paycheck went from 0 to 200,000 or what ever the President makes.

Even if he wasn't president, he would still be a rich ass stupid idiot. He has stocks in nearly every company that deals with Oil because that is what the Bushes are known for: Oil

Don't be jealous that he is better off then you are. Our country was desgined and created that if you work hard and follow your dream, you WILL have success. It means working extremelly hard and always workering harder then the next guy.

If you do that then you will commit suicide =/ from over working your self

There both idiots...Both Bush and Kerry. I think we should ahve some none religious presidents then maybe we could accomplish soemthing in this country!

This topic is about Bush, and your thoughts. Since you don't like Bush or Kerry. I'm assuming you were a Nadar fan

Amazing on how some people's scope of thought is limited to the umbrellas of "Bush supporter", "Kerry Supporter", "Nadar Supporter". As for Stars, you're full of . America was designed, founded like this and that, but there are always the lazy, incompetent, (although not many), sons of the rich, who effortlessly gain immense fortune and only by being born to the right father, whose actually dabblings in work usually cause disaster for company finance, while the blue collar man works on assmebly lines all day long to collect a meager salary that just gets his family by. We've made a system no better then monarchy, where the rich have the most weight to throw around.

You are so blindly ignorant and obviously jealous of those who are fortunate. Our system was created THAT IF YOU WORK HARD, GET THINGS DONE, GO TO SCHOOL, AND BE RESPONISBLE YOU WILL SUCCEED. And those families that pass down their wealth and people being born rich. Do you think the people who started those companies were rich? The people who started everything had to work extremely hard to get where they are today. Ford worked extremely hard and now look at his company today! (even though he is dead).

The majority of rich people today had to work extremely hard to be where they are today. Only a few were born rich.

So you're saying that i'm "blindly ignorant, and obviously jealous" cause someones daddy found oil? HA HA! That is a funny one.

Our government was formed like that, but doesn't follow those standards anymore.

Yeah, I do believe that the people who start those companys are rich. Especially the Bush family. Did you know their ancestors were the Bankers of Hitler????

The Bushes never had to work hard for anything (I'm asuming that you are trying to defend the Bush family)

Ford didn't have to work hard either. Sitting at home and using math to figure out how to make a motor isn't exactly "hard" as you are trying to depict it. It may be very complicated. But hard? That's funny.

Only a few were born rich... Okay you . I have relatives (Becksteads) that are rich SOBs! Every single one of them has been in he money since they were born (Even back in the 1800s) One of my relatives is a Doctor! Whipty do! Sure, he went to college for it, but where did he get the money to go to college???? Hmm???

Another one of my relatives is the *ucking Sherrif of Preston. Is he rich? No, but he has money if he ever needs it.

And most my others are Real Estate Agents (It isn't hard to become one of those)

So before you start trying to defend the rich snobs of our country (Wilhelm has a damn good point: )

Do you see any "Middle Class Workers" in any form of government? Hell no! It's always the people who have the *ucking money! Cause without money, you have no campaign. Thus making your run for a position an any seat of government (State or Federal) a loss, and a waste.

Thank you, and have a nice day

The democratic partu gives money to the person running for them and same with the republican party but, i agree with you. You need to be rich these days to run for president and anything that is a high political office.

There's a difference between being rich and having wealth. Anyone can become rich, simply by working hard, getting things done, going to school, etc... However, people are born into wealthy families, you can't become wealthy over night, you can't lose wealth overnight. You can become rich or lose a "rich" status overnight. I think that you need to have wealth to become president in this country.

I agree. But that still doesn't change the fact.

he bought his way into the preasidency...thats all

I wouldn't doubt it. Same with his father.... That's not the point though.

The point is, he "tries" to be a good president, but blows at doing so

This is the second thread you've said this in when everyone here knows that's a complete lie.

Bush is a good president, the media just nitpicks the bad things (no president is perfect), and you idiots all listen to what they say and think that's all that happens.