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You aren't wrong.

I'm just too lazy to go find the quote.

True, but the pro-OSMAP couldn't win anyway. Would Moose bother changing all SEN policy about map protection/unprotection if the OSMAP side would loose? -No. And he didn't.

What policy? I would stick OSMAP in the DLDB and that would be it.

I expected something more... I don't even know what... but... more.

It would sound like but have as much actual effect as electing a Communist to the presidency.

Perhaps putting OSMAP in the DLDB would have triggered some nasty events and a real schism in the community, given the militancy of the anti-OSMAP'ers especially.

How can any of you defend him? Respected? Excuse me?
Having made 'good' maps doesn't make him immune to rules. Neither does it mean he has the right mindset to be a moderator. Part of being one means that you're mature enough to handle it. You're the example to everyone else, so to speak, and this was far from being an experiment. No, it was a cover-up excuse. An excuse that was perpetrated at the last minute in order to not lose face.

If you guys can't see beyond the vague of lies, then it's hopeless. Would it have been someone else, you'd have brought them down to their tomb. DEAD has never shown any kind of maturity on these boards. Look up what it means. It certainly has nothing to do with making 'good' maps, or being involved a lot.

A moderator's number one priority is to be fair, neutral and enforce the rules. That's what they were conceived for to begin with. DEAD has none of those qualities. In fact, he has quite the opposite. Fair? Let's see.. Rigging polls, important ones too, mind you.
Neutral? Didn't he bash everyone who supported OSMAP? This is certainly no way to behave. Especially not for a moderator. I do understand certain people have a more aggressive stance than others, but name-calling is unacceptable (I.E. Calling OSMAP-Supporters terrorists and other names). There is no excuse for that. Then there's the enforcement of rules. If he can't follow them himself, he should just not be a moderator. It's not more complicated than that. Otherwise, we might as well have a corrupt administration.

A moderator has to display exemplary behavior at all times, and it certainly isn't the case with DEAD. The whole point, ideally, is that you stand out from the rest with your exceptional qualities. From being patient to calm, to being fair and neutral. These are all important aspects one must carefully look at when choosing a 'rule enforcer'. A person that is selfless, mature, professional, and foremost of all, fair.

DEAD happens to be the least of those. In fact, he hasn't matured very much yet. Doesn't use proper language, and really, he doesn't shy himself when it comes to insulting others.

So here I ask, why do you defend him so vigorously? I'm glad he's not a moderator anymore. It's people like Captain Will who should be in charge of moderating. Respect DEAD all you want when it comes to map making, but turn your thinking cap on afterwards. Don't give reason to what he did just because he's your friend or he's a good map maker. What he did was wrong, and he's reluctant to admitting it.

Creating 17 accounts is an abuse. It's even more so when he rigged polls. Important or not, effective or not, it's not what matters. It's the idea, the principle behind it. The fact he did it. Not how bad it was. You just can't be a moderator and do that kind of thing. Experimenting? That must be the worst cover-up ever. To begin with, you don't need 17 accounts to do that, and you also don't need to rig polls. Especially polls that are political - oriented. That's more than immaturity, it's immoral.
If he really wanted double accounts to be checked on a regular basis, he could've handled it otherwise, and in a much more professional fashion.

- Aikanaro

Edit: Spell_checked

It's a little long afterwords, but the main weapon for the DTBK is "fury's fire", not yamato cannon, it also has a yamato cannon, which doesn't work.

And I saw the nuclear paint dot you stuck in my avvy, and the message in my sig! What else did you do? My fleet of DTBKs will defeat your single DTBK, but my lack of administrative capabilities kinda sucks.

What was his real reason then? Or you claim that he made them out of randomness? He's not some kind of 10 year old noob with a nick of msughusjmg and L337 language. The only logics I see is to show the society how easy it is to make double accounts.


I see that you haven't been here for a while... You haven't seen how DEAD enforced the rules. What was flame for him (and he warned people for it) would never be a flame for any other moderator.

The word fair is based of perception. For every person there is a different "fair".

The only thing he was not neutral to is the OSMAP crap. (I'm saying "crap" not because I hate OSMAP. It just created a lot of crap and drama on SEN) But then again, I never saw him being "unfair" to people based on their opinion about OSMAP.


Where didn't he use propper language recently? He may have grammar mistakes and typos. But not much.


Yeah, rigging polls isn't good. That's because all that OSMAP crap was like a hit in the balls for DEAD.


In that case, Mini Moose should be punished. Moose rigged some stupid poll in Null by adding an incredibly huge number of votes to one option. (But set them back after some people said he should).

I see you have spite for DEAD.

Please answer this question (that Moose didn't answer):
Moose: DEAD should be punished for creating multiple accounts.
The question: Regardless of his goals?

The list of rules says you are not allowed to have multiple accounts, right? Then if he broke a rule, I don't see why not... That is regardless of his goals.

yes, he did break a rule, hence his punishment... unless you don't think losing moderation status and being suspended is a punishment...

hahahaha that's classic. I know I might have a double account or something, since my sister had one...I forget the names though.

I was answering Jammed's question.

Should he punished? Depends on who you ask.
Was he punished? Yes. (this part answers your question)
Deal with it.

revoking modship and then promoting the idea that you'll rehire him is punishment?

Well, I think it's fairly obvious I can't do what BOTH of you want. This topic has outlived its purposes.

Oh, and speaking of punishment "mockdead", I wouldn't complain.

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