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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-24 at 03:38:18

QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Jul 24 2005, 01:54 AM)

OK, first off

News Channels:

ABC
CNBC
MSNBC
CNN(not as much as others)

the list goes on and on.

Second:

I keep hearing that we went into Iraq for oil...ok then...where is my oil? We have been in Iraq for a couple of years, its stablized enough for shipping, where is the oil? Gas prices are stilling rising, where is the oil??? Hey the sky is green, just you wait it will turn green!

Drilling in the Artic: Where we plan to drill has almost no wild life and is extremely remote. Maybe a few animals will be effected, Im talking in the 10-90 range, not more then 100.

Patriot Act: mmm ok so how has it effected you at all? If you are a good person then you have nothing to hide. Are you hiding something o_O????
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I'm gonna watch all those news channels for myself, and see if they really are "liberal".

Chris, if we didn't go there for oil, then please, tell me why we went from, GOING AFTER OSAMA TO GOING TO IRAQ. those are 2 diff things. President knew people would not seperate both the incidents.

As for the patriot act, I thought you conservatives thought down the road. You have any idea how much :poo: it's gonna cause dozens of years from now? (Considering America lasts that long) If this act came out in the 50's, and it was used to protect us from mainly terrorists, (Like it is now) conservatives would call it a communism tactic to destroy our traditional rights of America.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by IceWarrior98 on 2005-07-24 at 03:44:15

I feel bad for the americans, being Lead by a complete moron who probably doesnt know how to drive his own vehicle (lazy ass rich people). I mean all Bush has done is make things worse, he sent men to Iraq bringing Canada and other countries into it, now guess what? London bombings are echoeing around the the world. I say if Bush doesn't do something right IM gonna want to assassinate his ass...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-24 at 11:35:11

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jul 24 2005, 12:38 AM)

The Patriot Act won't be put into a law again. Most the burocrates saw how big of a mess it caused throughout the USA (Cops could say you're a "Suspected Terrorist" and could wiretap (Which is illegal) your phones, and cut into your personal business.

If the Senate and House are dumb enough to sign another bill like that, i'm leaving.

QUOTE(IceWarrior98 @ Jul 24 2005, 12:44 AM)

Do it.

ADDITION:

QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ Jul 23 2005, 11:54 PM)

Patriot Act: mmm ok so how has it effected you at all? If you are a good person then you have nothing to hide. Are you hiding something o_O????
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No, i'm a damn good person.

Are you saying it is okay for the Bill of Rights to be thrown out the window?

If so, you're very stupid.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-07-24 at 14:02:30

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Last national news broadcast I saw, they were leaning towards putting 14 of the 16 clauses permanent and the last 2 with a 10-year sunset. Doesn't look good...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-07-25 at 18:57:14

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jul 23 2005, 11:38 PM)

I'm sure they won't look libral to you becuase you seem pretty lefty your self

We went in to remove a burtal dictator who has killed hundreds of thousands of people himself.

Well I beleive we need something like the patroit act that doesn't interfere with the bill of rights, but makes us more aggressive against terrorists.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-25 at 19:21:42

Explain how invading privacy is not taking our bill of rights away.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-25 at 22:52:25

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We went in to remove a brutal dictator who has killed hundreds of thousands of people himself.

And Kim Jong Il is still in power why?
Oh, and yeah we totally owned that dictator Shah in Iran

So yeah, the government doesn't really care about freeedom as much as personal gain

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-25 at 23:28:06

Wow... I didn't ever think of it that way.... Thanks beezle!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-26 at 00:16:14

QUOTE(Beezelbub @ Jul 25 2005, 09:52 PM)

And Kim Jong Il is still in power why?
Oh, and yeah we totally owned that dictator Shah in Iran

So yeah, the government doesn't really care about freeedom as much as personal gain
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Because he's got nuclear warheads and we're too scared to do anything about it, especially since that dude really has a messed up head...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-26 at 10:54:19

QUOTE(MiLlEnNiUmArMy @ Jul 25 2005, 10:16 PM)

Because he's got nuclear warheads and we're too scared to do anything about it, especially since that dude really has a messed up head...
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We (or at least Bush) thought he had weapons of mass destruction and he has somewhat a messed up head you know him being racist against the majority muslim shiit or the other one (not sure) and killing them. Yet we still went in there.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-07-26 at 11:40:14

QUOTE(Beezelbub @ Jul 26 2005, 06:54 AM)

You can't invade EVERYONE, man this world ain't perfect, we have only been fighitng the war on terror now for a couple years, we have invaded 2 countries and are making them democratic. We need to wait until the job is done with those countries before moving on to others.... But of course if we remove those other dictactors you guys will then start :censored:ing WORLD POLICE WORLD POLICE...OMFG WTF IS BUSH DOING!!!11

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-26 at 12:45:37

QUOTE(Beezelbub @ Jul 26 2005, 09:54 AM)

I'm talking about the korean dictator, not saddam.

Yea the world isn't perfect but at least we can try to make it as good as possible

Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-26 at 13:06:59

yeah i know you were talking about Kim i was saying we invaded saddam when we thought he had WMD's but do nothing to North Korea; my point is just we went there mostly for personal gain while justifying this invasion whith other stuff.

Still no one is justifying our support for the past dictator shah in Iran

Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-26 at 13:12:00

Umm.... North Korea has 1,000,000 people in their military, they bombed south korea many times and they SAID they had WMDs.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-26 at 13:21:46

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 26 2005, 11:12 AM)

Umm.... North Korea has 1,000,000 people in their military, they bombed south korea many times and they SAID they had WMDs.
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Finally someone actually answers my comment with an actual answer.

But still no answer to my shah comment.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-26 at 13:32:45

QUOTE(Beezelbub @ Jul 26 2005, 12:06 PM)

Then why did you quote what i said about kim jon and then all of a sudden just decided to talk about something else which i never replied to in the first place? Don't do that next time it confuses people like me

Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-26 at 13:44:18

QUOTE(MiLlEnNiUmArMy @ Jul 26 2005, 11:32 AM)

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Sorry for the confusion, i was trying to compare them and say that we are in Iraq mostly for personal gain, not to take down a dreadful dictator. (just trying to prove s.t.a.r.s wrong about why we went in there.)

come on people shah tell me.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-07-26 at 15:58:43

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jul 26 2005, 10:12 AM)

Umm.... North Korea has 1,000,000 people in their military, they bombed south korea many times and they SAID they had WMDs.
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Thanks to bush, we are now fairly confident North Korea has overstepped its limitations on the use of plutonium and now has nuclear weapons.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-26 at 18:02:11

QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jul 26 2005, 01:58 PM)

Thanks to bush, we are now fairly confident North Korea has overstepped its limitations on the use of plutonium and now has nuclear weapons.
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i think that was established in Clinton's terms? If not,true dat, true dat.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-07-26 at 18:06:26

Under Clinton we had cameras and reporters in there monitoring the use of plutonium. Bush simply rolled over and allowed them to be kicked out.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-26 at 20:11:17

Chris, there is no reason why we went to Iraq, except for oil. That is the only one. If we wanted to protect our selves from an actual threat, we would've gone to north korea. If we wanted to free people, we would've gone to south africa. Why the hell did we go to Iraq? Honestly.

As for the news, they won't seem liberal to me because I'm liberal? What kinda logic is that? It don't matter what stance you are, you can still tell if something is liberal or not.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-26 at 21:00:56

You're not going to change his views on anything. He is under the illusion that the war in Iraq is justified because we are "Fighting Terrorism" (Shouldn't we be fighting outselves????)

And yes. It was good we went in and got Sadam out. But like I have many times, we should have gradually pulled out instead of staying in there!

But I agree. Why don't we go and get the people who are threats to us? Or are we really in it for personal gain...?

*coughyescough*

Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-27 at 18:33:39

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jul 26 2005, 07:11 PM)

As for the news, they won't seem liberal to me because I'm liberal? What kinda logic is that? It don't matter what stance you are, you can still tell if something is liberal or not.
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What Chris was trying to say is that, for instance, something may seem right to someone just because they follow a certain belief or not.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-07-27 at 22:10:31

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Jul 26 2005, 04:11 PM)

Where is the oil??? Please tell me....Im still paying hell at the gas station and the prices are STILL rising!!!! Please tell me where this oil we are taking is??

Like I said before, middle east first, africa next. We can't invade every one at the same time silly

Actually you would say fox news is right wing, I would say your wrong but I know for a fact that fox news is right wing. Thats my logic that if you agree with something.

And just to tell you kellimus you are just as hard as a brick wall as I am in trying to convince each other that we are right/wrong

Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-07-27 at 22:43:21

The price of oil is rising for several reasons, one of which is because the USA invaded Iraq. Other Middle-Eastern countries have raised their oil prices because they hate the US meddling in their affairs.

Also, don't complain about your fuel prices when we pay 4x as much per gallon.

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