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Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-05-12 at 19:38:26
QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ May 11 2005, 06:33 PM)
Oh, sorry not you. Should've quoted the guy. Earlier on, somebody said that they slowed down time with their mind. Sorry for that. Also, on a side not, it had some satire in it, but the point remained the same.
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Are you talking about little lives? Have you read the posts after it?! we already explained everything to him, I'm not flaming and no offense.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-05-12 at 19:43:22
Ya, I just added more to the flame, that's why I figured I didn't have to imply on who it was.

I figured wrong I suppose. Oh well, no biggie.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-05-13 at 00:15:41
QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ May 12 2005, 04:43 PM)
Ya, I just added more to the flame, that's why I figured I didn't have to imply on who it was.

I figured wrong I suppose. Oh well, no biggie.
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Yeah I guess..., lets just think more about facts of time and let this little arguement between you and me rest here. wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-05-13 at 00:30:17
Wow, I wish I could settle arguments with people here like that...

Anyways,
If you somehow freeze all matter, (Absolute Zero), since none of the bonds of atoms and stuff would no longer be moving or doing anything, they would all break apart. With that, all objects would just disintegrate, destroying everything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-05-13 at 00:31:54
QUOTE(O)FaRTy1billion @ May 12 2005, 09:30 PM)
Wow, I wish I could settle arguments with people here like that...

Anyways,
If you somehow freeze all matter, (Absolute Zero), since none of the bonds of atoms and stuff would no longer be moving or doing anything, they would all break apart. With that, all objects would just disintegrate, destroying everything.
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DID I NOT STATE THAT OBVIOUSLY ENOUGH ON MY PREVIOUS POSTS??!! (no offense, no offense)

Also, you broke my nice conversation with alpha(MC) lol biggrin.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-05-13 at 00:36:07
Can't someone agree with you?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-05-13 at 00:37:51
QUOTE(O)FaRTy1billion @ May 12 2005, 09:36 PM)
Can't someone agree with you?
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Excuse me? oh, ahem yes!!! of course!!! I just never thought of it that way... sorry, I just comprehended it differently lol... its all cool cool1.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by unnownrelic on 2005-05-14 at 00:22:45
Did I miss something? Where does this whole, agreeing with you thing come in?
And if it makes you feel any better, I agree with you.

But the only other way to travel through time would be to travel faster than the speed of light. Or I suppose you could do some wierd space-time thing where you rip a big hole in its very fabric and hope you don't screw everyone over by doing that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-05-16 at 23:02:22
QUOTE(unnownrelic @ May 13 2005, 09:22 PM)
Did I miss something? Where does this whole, agreeing with you thing come in?
And if it makes you feel any better, I agree with you.

But the only other way to travel through time would be to travel faster than the speed of light. Or I suppose you could do some wierd space-time thing where you rip a big hole in its very fabric and hope you don't screw everyone over by doing that.
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noooo noooo you got it all wrong! if you travel faster than light... which isn't possible because some light will always be hitting your windsheild of your ship or whatever, just like bugs splatting against a car, and besides, if you travel faster than light all you have is faster transportation not time warp, dummy lol tongue.gif
see the bugs are slower than the car right? but if they are in the right place at the right time, when your car hits them, they go splat. remember that light doesn't only come from one direction, it comes from many, that is all I have to say, and take it in! lol, no offense for any of this post lol. tongue.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2005-06-03 at 09:24:05
QUOTE(Screwed)
Just posting to say, its not 24 hours in one day, its 23 hours and 56 minutes.


Duh. That's why we have bisixt years (aka with 366 days) afterall... it's to sort that difference out. wink.gif

As for the rest (saying that we can stop time or whatever 'junk' that was)... my statement is 'till you can (scientifically) prove it, I'll be free to say you can't. ermm.gif

Disclaimer: Hopes won't be held responsible for the late response, but only now cruised to my User CP area.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-06-03 at 19:04:59
I'm not sure if we could stop time with our minds, but i think we do speed up time with our minds sometimes, in our sleep.

When you get about 8 hours of sleep, it doesn't feel like 8 hours. Right when you fall asleep, you might dream a little, and then suddenly wake up. It feels much faster than 8 hours...


Well, just a random thought happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Velragg on 2005-06-05 at 21:54:10
Time is simply a measurement.

Time is nothing to the mind; the only effects that time has upon the mind are age.

I came across this discovery while studying science with a friend, we were going over the Current Formula I=Q/T. Current is measured in amps, Charge in Coulombs, Time is measured in... seconds... Time is a measurement.

In your incident, you simply focus and unfocus your mind.

It is simply a phenomena like Deja Vu, in which your brain double-processes an image, making you feel like you have seen something before a long, long time ago. You'd be damn certain that you've seen it before, but you have simply seen something "twice" in the flash moment that your mind processed the image.


We can stop time in our minds through power of will, but our minds cannot stop time itself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-06-10 at 11:32:44
Just get a brain freeze, you will never know you stopped time.

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Oh, but for me... I stopped time by knowing it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-06-11 at 21:02:50
QUOTE(krazydrunkking @ Jun 10 2005, 09:32 AM)
Just get a brain freeze, you will never know you stopped time.

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Oh, but for me... I stopped time by knowing it.
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Impossible. In order to "know" you stopped time, you must think it. In order to think it, time must continue flowing, so your mind can't pause time or else it would stop thinking for that moment, you wouldn't even feel it cause you weren't thinking. However, it is possible to slow time, which is basically speeding up perception rate. Then, you could use your muscles up to their full potentional, considering how quickly they can move. I make allot of spelling errors, cause at times, my fingers type too fast for me to process so I make a few mistakes. I'm stopping and correcting this even as I type it.

Oh, and this topic should be dead already.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-12 at 21:44:08
QUOTE(Oo.ZeALoT.oO @ Apr 21 2005, 03:32 PM)
u couldnt stop time with ur mind because your mind is simply not powerfull enough to stop it, really nothing actually could, time is like infinite.
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You're right, you cannot stop time with your mind. But, all time is, is an illusion created by man to understand the evolution of the universe.

QUOTE(indecisiveman @ Apr 21 2005, 03:48 PM)
Sounds like a topic for Kirby to stop by in. Kirbyyyyy come on!  biggrin.gif Anyways...you most liekly fell asleep. Even though you thought you were watching the clock you were probably sleeping or dreaming.

Ex: You wake up. You go to the bathroom and take a piss. You go back to your room. You wake up. And you have to go again. You actually dreamed about going.

Ok so it is one of the most common things but it is the same concept. I am sure that scenario has happened to all of you. It is just natural. You can't change time with your mind. It is an incorrect notion.
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You can change how you percieve time. You cannot change time, because it is an illusion.

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ Apr 21 2005, 05:10 PM)
Time is just a measurement. We made it up.

It's also largely based on situation and perception. Just like that whole girl and stove thing.

So in other words, Time is constantly passing by, It just SEEMS like it's going slower or faster sometimes.
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Time is an illusion, not a measurment. After we created "Time", we use the seconds as measurements because we cannot comprehend the evolution of the universe. So we created time.

QUOTE(Alpha(MC) @ May 10 2005, 02:53 PM)
Here is how you can seriously time travel. (More like teleport) You some how magically stop all matter in the universe from moving, like all the protons, nuetrons, and electrons. (Like the coldest you can get it period) And you freeze yourself too, however, you DON'T freeze the path your gonna use to go from Galaxy A to Galaxy B. Then you just make your ship or w/e, slowly go through the universe. Take about maybe 2 billion years or w/e, and by the time u get there, u some how UNfreeze everything, and then bam. You teleported. Down side to all this is....it's impossible, unless you're the Big G man himself. Or you got 2352503759027520135702 I.Q.

(BTW Time Travel is about 4368961234986 times harder)
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You cannot time travel, because you cannot reverse evolution. The only way that you would be able to "Teleport" is to fold the universe on itself. Like wormholes. Many say they don't exist, some say it is possible to create them. It is possible, but not with the technology that we have. The only way a wormhole could be created, is if you create a break in the rift of the universe (Fold it on itself like you fold a piece of paper in half) only after doing that, is a wormhole possible.

QUOTE(Velragg @ Jun 5 2005, 06:54 PM)
Time is simply a measurement.

Time is nothing to the mind; the only effects that time has upon the mind are age.

I came across this discovery while studying science with a friend, we were going over the Current Formula I=Q/T. Current is measured in amps, Charge in Coulombs, Time is measured in... seconds... Time is a measurement.

In your incident, you simply focus and unfocus your mind.

It is simply a phenomena like Deja Vu, in which your brain double-processes an image, making you feel like you have seen something before a long, long time ago. You'd be damn certain that you've seen it before, but you have simply seen something "twice" in the flash moment that your mind processed the image.
We can stop time in our minds through power of will, but our minds cannot stop time itself.
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Your explaination of Deja Vu, is somewhat correct (from what I have come to conclude Deja Vu is) I have concluded that Deja Vu, is when your mind "Creates" a figment of the future, and it comes true (Like pre-cognition, or reading the future) Every time I have had a Deja Vu, I always remember dreaming the event, only after it has happend. The Deja Vu on the Matrix, is somewhat right. He says, "woah, Deja Vu" (or whatever he says) because he saw the cat again. I think that Deja Vu is a way of reading the future, but you don't remember it until it happens, like your "Double Processing" It is a possiblility that your mind, double processes it, but it is highly undoubtful. Some may use that excuss, but I actually remember that I have dreamt it, because I have. You may call me crazy, but I have dreams that I do not remember, until it actually happens......

Sorry about the off-topic post...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-06-14 at 02:30:54
I've been thinking, and I've noticed that time is not an illusion. Well, ours is, simply because we can not find it. Instead, we got lazy ghetto version of time.

You see, assuming if infinite does not truly exist, (and no, we're not talking about looping stuff) Then it is in theory, possible to find time. (More like just find out what has, or what will happen)

It would involve some math where you would calculate how each atom interacts with every other atom, and etc. (Which is soooooo beyond impossible. I don't think even God himself might not be able to do this) And you would continue using w/e unknown math formulas, to be able to predict what will happen, and what has happened throught the entire universe. (Considering free will doesn't come into play. Then again, there's a good chance not even god has free will. And we all know, person without free will can not give free will)

When I say this is quite possibly, the hardest math problem to ever solve, I really mean it. It's so beyond impossible. It'll be like you trying to beat ff7 with just 1hp, and you having:

.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance to dodge any enemy attack. (And with no evades either) it COULD happen, but it's not gonna happen. Get what I'm saying?

The only thing that could be MORE complicated this, is changing all the matter in the universe around. Therefore changing time. (Not really though, mainly because all you're really doing is just continuing time)

So here is my point: Anyone who actually honestly thinks that they have the ability to change time with just their wee lil minds, have their head way up their ass. Because, it is without a DOUBT the most complicated thing to do. You can change the time in your mind, but you can't change true time. Unless you're God, or something beyond God.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-14 at 11:07:43
The human mind is not small. It is one of the most complex things in the universe. And yes, I agree. No one can change "Time" but they can change how they percieve it (How fast it goes by, how slow, ect...)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-14 at 14:49:16
Well, if you were a super jedi like me.......you'd know that time is a thing of relivence and perseption. the only way to stop "time" is to diss-invent it.

me, i blame the rail-road componies. they made up the time zones therefor locking the hole wolrd into a set time standerd.

The only other way to stop time is to make the earth stop orbeting the sun. that is impossible. so ha.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-14 at 14:50:14
Okay almighty Phith Eglat..... heh smile.gif

That is his "Jedi Name" so no flame there smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-14 at 14:56:23
if you realy think about it, before the rail componies made time zones, time was a thing of thought. there was no set time. so, therefor, you could say that time has stoped.........cus if you wanted it to, it could.........kinda...exept for the fact that the sun HAD to go down sometime, and it would, without fail, rise again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-06-14 at 17:00:13
QUOTE(gorotsuki @ Jun 14 2005, 01:49 PM)
Well, if you were a super jedi like me.......you'd know that time is a thing of relivence and perseption.  the only way to stop "time" is to diss-invent it.

me, i blame the rail-road componies. they made up the time zones therefor locking the hole wolrd into a set time standerd. 

The only other way to stop time is to make the earth stop orbeting the sun. that is impossible. so ha.
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If the earth stopped, it doesn't mean all matter in the universe would stop too. Like computer clocks would still be counting time correctly. All that would really happen is, the sun never rising in some places.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2005-06-15 at 09:04:40
They say we only use 2% of our brain in our lifetime..
If we were able to use 100% a year, we would be supernatural

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They say we only use 2% of our brain in our lifetime..
If we were able to use 100% a year, we would be supernatural
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-15 at 10:16:08
......that dosent mean a thing. all the compter clock is doing is going thru a cycle, that dose not mean that time is present, nor dose it mean that time is not there. but honestly. if you stop the world from spinning, then dose "time" not stop? there would be no way to know what is what. on one side you would have perpetual night, leading to frozen death. on the other side you have perpetual day, leading to a flammy burny death........but thats beside the point. we could argue about this all day............but realy, what drives a watch? that is the force that makes it go around and around?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-15 at 18:04:30
I don't think the earths rotation controls time, we just use it as a way to measure time. If the earth stopped spinning, would we not age? I think time would still pass, but there would be no way to tell by using the sun and day/night.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2005-06-15 at 18:38:05
Time = A measurement of time.
Time = What never stops and keeps going.
Time = Keeps on and on and on.
Time = even if there is not a existance of life in the universe.
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