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How is it bringing the high people down?? It only affects the "dumb" people, not the "smart" people.

Schools are given a sense that the smart ones in their classes are fine on their own and divert support toward the, ahem, not-so-smart ones. The result is that the less bright kids have a CHANCE of getting better but the better ones have NO CHANCE. An example is my Global Studies class: some of the kids would ask questions like "What does FLOURished mean?" (prouncing it like flower-ish), amongst other such questions. This takes away class time, reducing teaching efficiency, blah blah blah. Wait a minute, this isn't just Bush's idiocy... it's that of America's youths! -.-;

please remember were talking about president Bush and no school management.

But school managment in this case relates directly to bush, as his no child left behind act has caused schools to divert their funding from gifted programs to programs for the, to put it bluntly, stuipid. Also, the program's fundamental idea is flawed, as it takes money AWAY from schools that are doing poorly as a "punishment" leading to the schools to doing even more poorly.

I'd say it's putting it SUBTLY.

Right now we're talking about President Bush's idiotic school policy. So it's related.

The No Child Left Behind law should be modified: What we should do is seperate grades into three different sections:

Smart people, normal people, and retarded people.

That way, nobody is left behind because everybody is learning at the correct pace. This way, the retarded people wont slow the entire class down (since teachers progress lessons at the rate of the slowest child), and the smart people won't be bored after they finish all the work before everyone else.

That would directly cause segregation, and thus prejudice, and would cause more ethical issues to arise. There are people with true mental disabilities who are put in a separate class entirely, and there are AP classes to help the talented, but the problem lies in normal classes that are hard to advance in, such as social studies, which would contain both the dumb (not the mentally challenged) and the smart.

Okay then. The NCLBA should fund special education more.

Special education students might be teased, but that does NOT matter. I was a sped for three grades in elementary, and people thought I was retarded. Yet, I went from one of the worst in math to the top ten in my grade, and I've become an average english student, because of special education.

But then last year, all the sped teachers in my town got cut, so the speds now go into normal classes and slow the class down.

Did you seriously not read what I posted? I already explained why. You basically asked for an example, when I already gave one. Now I must assume either you didn't notice the example, or thought my example wasn't good enough. If you need me to spell it out for you, I'll be more than happy to

I also noticed you didn't bring up the rest of the arguement, so are you indirectly admiting that you're wrong on it? (You know, the part where I questioned your %, and pulled out the dictionary) If you're wrong, just admit it. It's a lot easier. Everyone is wrong sometimes. No biggie.

I don't see much wrong with that, though how exactly do they determine what level you go into? I think Honors and AP classes sort of do that already, but that's more for only people who want the challenge, not those who need extra help. If they base it on Standardized Testing, then I think it would be wrong, like the thing they are doing in NY I heard about in the news. I don't think standardized testing would be a good way to judge that if that is how they decide. I hope they have much more indepth tests.

Also if they said you were to be able to move up to a higher level, it would still be your decision to move to a higher level right? I don't think people should be forced into a challenging class they don't want to take. Even if they are smart, they can still be lazy and not apply themselves, if they want. Also with extracurricular activities it can be a burden with the extra work

Hypothetically, not even someone who has personally massacred many numbers of people personally, torturing them until they die? How would you punish them? Just give them deathrow or life in prison and thats it? I think if the case were extreme enough then something more should be done. Maybe not so much physical torture, but something that would cause the person to crack and feel some kind of emotional pain for what they have done.

Torture Issue

So basiclly, the only tortures you guys have mentioned that are bad are, sleep deprivation -- Hell, well I geuss Im being tortured becuase I barley get ANY sleep cause of so much homework and games. No Air conditioning -- Most came from the middle east, it would either have no effect on them or be really cold. Small cells -- .....ok...I geuss thats toture to some if we don't let prisoners move around that much. 30 minutes a week outside their cells -- oh boo hoo, its their fault for being terrorists, if we throw them in jail, its jail they get, plus they aren't american, so they don't get the kind of quarters an american would have due to our rights as citizens.

If terrorist had the chance they would lock us up in a small room and not let us go to sleep and they would torture us. So, i don't see the problem with torturing them

Alpha, Simpsons, and Chris. You think it is correct to torture terrorists? You people are in my opinion, morally wrong. PLUS, Torture does not work.

You torture them, they dont give you the answer because they might not know the answer, so you keep torturing them until they give you the answer. And since they usually dont know anything, they give you lies. So torture gives you more lies than truth.

They're in ing metal shipping containers. In blazing sun. For 23 1/2 hours at a time. And some of them aren't even terrorists! (There have been ordinary citizens captured as "terrorists" because the troops wanted to steal their possessions.




So, because they're a different nationality, they're not human beings? Many of these so called "terrorists" have never seen a shred of evidence against them. For example, troops picked up a taxi driver in Afghanistan. He was found to have no link to Al-Quieda, after spending a year in Guantanmo. And he's one of the lucky ones that got out early.

That comment right there was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time. Apparently someone hasnt seen the videos of Saddam beating and killing innocent people just because they spoke out against him.

IMO anybody who thinks the war in Iraq was a mistake has no soul.

That offends me. You just basicly said that since i'm from an alternative school (Where you have more One-on-One time for 5 straight hours of the day, one subject, making it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier to understand shit) that I am retarded, stupid, and I won't make it anywhere in life. That is one of the most ignorant replys I have ever heard! I used to go to the Preston High School, and there, you have to do what they call a Senior Project (If you don't complete it or you fail it, you don't pass High School) My Senior project was, "The difference between digital and analog created music". After trying to figure out what I needed to, I realized that this was a super hard project and wanted to change. Well, the stupid ass teacher and principal would not let me, thus making me have to drop out and go to the alternative school, where I actually learned more in 9 weeks, than I ever did in *ucking high school! And you know what? I have a date for college in August, you incencitive prick!

I can't believe how ignorant you are. Alternative Schools are hella better than high schools, and produce smarter students.



The war in Iraq is a mistake, but taking Sadam out of power was not a mistake. After taking Sadam out, we should have left Iraq, and not toiled in their affairs. All we are in there for right now, is to get the "Democracy" on it's feet, so we can have trade with it to steal all their oil.

Hey, looks like I have no soul!

I agree with you 100% that we need a sortting system to release the good people and keep the bad ones. Please provide evidence that soldiers wanted to steal their possens. Im finding it hard to believe that an American soldier would find anything they wanted from places like the middle east.



Being SOFT on these guys won't help either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just becuase they are uncomfertable makes this unhumane conditions???? oh please....

Im trying to get the point across to you that WE DON'T have to give these guys the services we are giving them, but we are doing it any way. They don't fall under the genieva convention, and YES -- becuase they aren't american they don't fall under the same rights we have.

Uh, do you know how much Hashish is in Iraq? And how many Hookas there are too??? I believe that comment if those were the things being stolen.

Uncomfortable conditions????? Sitting in a pure metal container, in the scorching desert heat, is uncomfortable? More like inhumain

They don't fall under the Genieva Convention, cause they don't follow the rules. But as a country that follows these rules, we should not stoop to their lvl, and become heartless and inhumain bastards.....