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Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-24 at 18:31:32
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jun 24 2005, 06:25 PM)
So what if their point was superiour, but their grammer and spelling sucked?
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Well it depends on what kind of message I get from it, if the person is being is being arrogant then even if their point was correct it doesn't mean I will respect them.

It's like would you rather be corrected by a kind person or someone saying HAHA YOU SUCK YOU'RE STUPID THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-24 at 18:36:34
Good point. That's kinda how.... Eh, nvm. It's in the past.....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-24 at 18:38:06
The dude i flamed what like "omg du u no wat i talkin bouts?"

That kind of language.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-24 at 18:40:14
One person I flamed was like omg you used the noob smiley! confused.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-24 at 18:45:48
QUOTE(devilesk @ Jun 24 2005, 06:40 PM)
One person I flamed was like omg you used the noob smiley! confused.gif
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Yea, and then the mods came and beat you so hard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-24 at 18:46:31
Yea, even though the other dude deserved it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-06-24 at 18:48:45
QUOTE(warhammer40000 @ Jun 24 2005, 05:38 PM)
The dude i flamed what like "omg du u no wat i talkin bouts?" [right][snapback]243552[/snapback][/right]
In my siggy! (Sorry, couldn't help myself).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-24 at 18:49:43
QUOTE(m.r.bob(MM) @ Jun 24 2005, 06:48 PM)
In my siggy! (Sorry, couldn't help myself).
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ROFL!!! Dude, thats hilarious! Ha, that was pretty clever.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-06-24 at 19:44:42
Are you advocating flaming?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-06-24 at 20:44:04
no, they're advocating a sense of humor.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-06-24 at 20:52:13
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But if there weren't "idiots" or "morons" then there wouldn't be flamming

Well by flaming back at them , you instantly put yourself into that "morons" and "idiots" catagory.

btw (Nothing intended, just pisses me off):
flamming = flaming
proove = prove
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-06-24 at 21:00:15
Ugh. Old Sala quote.

"Fighting on the internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard."

That sums it up quite nicely.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-24 at 21:04:11
QUOTE(Euro @ Jun 24 2005, 08:52 PM)
Well by flaming back at them , you instantly put yourself into that "morons" and "idiots" catagory.
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I disagree alot. If someone goes "OMG U STUPID DUMB ****!!1!!111!! YOU ****ING ****TY UN-1337 N0RB!!!1!!1!1!!" and you flame back, yea...

But if someone (ESPECIALLY someone you know...) starts getting all personal, you have to strike back. Usually quit right after you say it. (Just a 2 or 3 word insult)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-24 at 21:12:42
I think there are two kinds of flames, the first is just a retarded piece of spam with no meaning, most of the time in all caps. Then there's the kind where you just call someone stupid and insult them, even if they deserve it. The first one is mostly done by noobs and the second is mostly done by more intelligent people that are still flaming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-06-24 at 21:14:50
Can't take the heat? Get off the internet.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-06-24 at 21:17:53
Go talk to sala, there's flaming right there....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-06-24 at 23:34:51
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wow.....just when i thought you could get no dumber( yes i said dumber)you go and pull that shit..... no it was not covering a black hole, and i have never heard of a planet going super nova. the star was in one place for a long ass time, then i starts to get bigger. like blowing up a ballon, everything around it is moving to make room for it. well......a star is a hole hell of a lot bigger than a ballon. and what if ,in the massive explosion, it moves over somewhere. there is nothing left but a.........lets see now, how can i put this so you will understand it......is it a........HOLE! there is nothing where there was something and it has made a vacuum in space that is trying to be filled.


its not that i'm right, its just that your dumb


Flames right there?

You called him dumb and you insulted his post saying that it was shit.

Flaming isn't just a direct insult like most of you think. It's any form of degrading another person. Thats the first problem with flamers, they don't know what can be labeled as a flame.

Some types of indirect flames can be tolerated like: "Haven't you read the first post? It clearly states this idea and you go in the opposite way, I can't believe how ignorant some people can be". This is acceptable.
Now this isn't: "How is it possible for you to have not understood that? Are you like mentally retarded or something?"

Instead of just saying: "You are an (insert insult) because blah blah blah", why not just say: "You are wrong because insert reasons with proof of those reasons".

There are many different ways to change a flaming expression into being a well put together post. Instead of flaming someone for a short 5 minute pride, writing a post that says"I think you are basing your opinions in a wrong way because of reasons" would be far better in the long run. Your reputation would go up higher than defending yourself with a flame, people would actually look forward to your posts and you'll have better chances of being chosen for something say Moderator.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-25 at 11:21:58
When did I call his post dumb and say it was shit? Maybe you don't realize this yet but:

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wow.....just when i thought you could get no dumber( yes i said dumber)you go and pull that shit..... no it was not covering a black hole, and i have never heard of a planet going super nova. the star was in one place for a long ass time, then i starts to get bigger. like blowing up a ballon, everything around it is moving to make room for it. well......a star is a hole hell of a lot bigger than a ballon. and what if ,in the massive explosion, it moves over somewhere. there is nothing left but a.........lets see now, how can i put this so you will understand it......is it a........HOLE! there is nothing where there was something and it has made a vacuum in space that is trying to be filled.


its not that i'm right, its just that your dumb


was posted by the other guy

This was what he was replying to, it was posted by me:
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So are you saying that a supernova was filling up a black hole, and then got sucked in itself?

But don't stars become black holes? As in they like collapse in on themselves and get extremely dense turning into a black hole, so that it is no longer a star at all, yet now a black hole.


So that's considered calling him dumb and saying his post was shit?

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Flaming isn't just a direct insult like most of you think. It's any form of degrading another person. Thats the first problem with flamers, they don't know what can be labeled as a flame.


Yea, saying I could be any dumber isn't trying to degrade me.

Am I missing something?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-06-25 at 11:28:59
I mentioned in one of political discussion about how 17 pages later, we were still all arguing that "Bush is bad. However..." bull. Now we're all saying. "Flaming is bad...however..." bull. There is no god damn reason to degrade a person. What he said was not directly related at you, and its true; many times I give verbal warnings for people saying something like "well, that's alright. I wouldn't think someone like you could understand." that is a little more blatant than what I'm used to, but when I verbally warn them (over PM, usually) I get this type of arguement back: "I'm only saying that since he lives in the Suburbs there's no way he could know what I'm going through!" that's segregation, and that's putting yourself "holier than thou."

But that's what it has come down to. "Its alright to flame idiots for being idiots." or "I only flame dumbasses." So? This is coming from the only people here who report flames. There are one or two other people who have not argued that case, and although when you do report the flames and they are valid, its still bull that you have this 'holier than thou' complex in that you can flame the idiots, but they can't flame you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-25 at 11:31:24
They do flame, and in most cases, before I do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-06-25 at 11:32:06
Did you miss what I just said? I don't care. I'll warn you both next time I see it. A flame by any name is still a flame.

wohoo. Psuedo-Intellectualism!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-06-25 at 11:35:47
Just because someone flames you means you HAVE to flame them back? It somehow puts you on a religious crusade to defend your honor? Try applying this to real life. Someone hits you, you hit them. This keeps going on... and guess what, somebody is DEAD. If you like putting a 50/50 on your survival every time someone gets you pissed off, you really need to rethink yourself. Oh wait, this is the internet. Aren't you lucky?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-25 at 11:36:08
I don't segregate people based on their lack of knowledge. I don't say, "Oh I wouldn't expect you to know this because..."

And that whole "I only flame idiots for being idiots" means first they fail to see what is going on in the thread, they are arguing over something trivial, the answer is right in front of their eyes yet they don't want to admit they are wrong, and they are repeating the same thing over and over, and they start flaming. That's when I label someone an idiot.

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Just because someone flames you means you HAVE to flame them back? It somehow puts you on a religious crusade to defend your honor? Try applying this to real life. Someone hits you, you hit them. This keeps going on... and guess what, somebody is DEAD. If you like putting a 50/50 on your survival every time someone gets you pissed off, you really need to rethink yourself.


It depends on how idiotic the person is being, and how simple the argument is and how unnecessary it is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-06-25 at 11:38:15
I'm sure repeated flaming and profuse swearing will always enlighten the "idiot". If you want to know something and you're confused by the responses and simply get "hey you're f*cking stupid b*tch" every time you ask again, you sure aren't going to learn anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-06-25 at 11:39:06
No, I've seen you skip about 5 of tho- oh wait there are 5 steps. Yeah you usually flame first, Devilesk.
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