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Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-07-06 at 14:44:36
Yea people, Im trying to say EVERYONE must be the same. Same Race. Same Pay. Same everything. Because humans are fueled by greed, like I said in my topic. And we'll start throwing riots for all of the unfairness.

Communism!

It is true, people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-06 at 14:56:21
People will just steal from eachother?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-07-06 at 16:29:13
I wish you read my posts before...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-06 at 22:43:23
Perfect world would be something like the matrix, where each person gets to live in their own little computer world, and before they go in, they get to decide how they want it to go.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-08 at 02:59:29
wouldn't that be boring? with no surprise? you'd know whats happening (unless you forgot). Anyway, a perfect world would be a virtual reality where everyones wish come true but it doesnt depress anyone elsee
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-08 at 07:01:04
I think we live in the perfect world right now. Life is unpredictable, you can what you want, and you don't always get it, so you appreciate happiness and getting stuff you want A LOT more than if you jsut got what you want.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by noisuk on 2005-07-08 at 07:11:13
My perfect world is where everyone is happy, has a home, food.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-08 at 07:18:58
Well yeah, we are in a perfect world. Imagine what you guys are saying. Now imagine someone giving you lots of money (500 mins for example *cough*) you won't really care and notice their generosity at all now will you?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-08 at 12:31:09
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Jul 8 2005, 06:01 AM)
I think we live in the perfect world right now. Life is unpredictable, you can what you want, and you don't always get it, so you appreciate happiness and getting stuff you want A LOT more than if you jsut got what you want.
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QUOTE(Parthx86 @ Jul 8 2005, 06:18 AM)
Well yeah, we are in a perfect world. Imagine what you guys are saying. Now imagine someone giving you lots of money (500 mins for example *cough*) you won't really care and notice their generosity at all now will you?
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It's implausible that our world right now is perfect. It's far from being impeccable. There's too much hate, discrimination, poor leaderships, pessimism, and all sorts of those things which make our world imperfect.

But in a way, i do get what you mean
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-08 at 13:53:40
Let's not be looking on the bad side 24/7 for just a second.

Who here thinks the world today is a lot better than the world 100 years ago? I personally do. I think we're on the road to recovery. (For now anyways)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-08 at 13:54:27
In many ways it is, but in some ways it isn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by noisuk on 2005-07-08 at 17:00:20
QUOTE(Parthx86 @ Jul 8 2005, 06:18 AM)
Well yeah, we are in a perfect world. Imagine what you guys are saying. Now imagine someone giving you lots of money (500 mins for example *cough*) you won't really care and notice their generosity at all now will you?
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Ahem... 600 minerals wink.gif.

Sometimes I might, sometimes I might not...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-09 at 00:27:50
In a perfect world there would be no such thing as money, everyone would help everyone else out and there would not be any payment necessary, since everyone will basically be dependent on everyone else so its necessary for everyone to collaborate and work together. Though that will never happen.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-07-09 at 08:03:59
Yeah, yeah... perfect world is impossible. Too many barriers...
I'm gonig to talk mostly about a perfect city / state / nation things in the USA.

Poor/Homeless people
Big huge apartment complexes are built in somewhat good portions of the city. Homeless people can be taken in and have showers, clothes, food, a nice little place to stay, even a little bar and are urged to get a job. Once getting a job, the facility keeps 80% of their paycheck in a small account for them, at which they could take out for reasonable things: car, education, etc.

End welfare except for the mentally disabled. Not people who don't want to learn, but people who can't actually learn / do stuff. As a buisness teacher once said about giving taxxes to such people, "better them than me" (not as straight-forward cruel though... (she was also a female)).
People who don't want to work, don't get money. If they have kids, they get taken away and put in a orphanage... More kids != you get more free money. Castration to those who keep popping out kids who can't afford it, female or male.

Better orphages with higher education, mentors, and things for fun.

Crime
Death to those who kill.
Castration for those who rape.
Legalize weed, force rehab for other drug users and then put in the homeless shelter if they need to be raised back up from proverty.
Theives get their hands tatooed red. Any shop keeper who wishes to search them can do so at anytime. Repeated thieves simply get their hands cut off.

Any police force higher than your average police peeps (fbi, cia, etc) can search or invade your privacy as they wish with good reason.

Healthcare
Centralize many parts of it into one unit, under the government. Your healthcare rates will be porportionate to your income and your general well being. As buisness no longer have to provide benefits, they get slightly taxxed more money for this healthcare, as well as paying employees more.
Non-profit but generally pays it's employees pretty good.
Some other tweaks in healthcare, I'm sure... but I don't have much perspective in this area. Well, maybe the more you go to the doctor, the more you pay. Erm... maybe varying deductibles in relation to your income as well. Going to the doctor 100 times simply because you already met your deductable isn't going to help the overall situation.
Tighter control over medicine, shorten the time where "name-brand" pills are being forced... perhaps the ability for really poor people to be able to buy generic pills, regardless of the protection a new pill is given.

Equality
No such thing should ever be used in any buisness organization, including schools. I'm not sure around every city, but milwaukee tries to balance schools racially with racial slots per school... meaning, if too many white people join a school, the rest are rejected because they want to also have black children (and other minorities) in there too. When people are getting rejected that live like in walking distance of a school, something's wrong with that. School bussing services will no longer be used as a force behind this forcing equality and will cost money to have your kid picked up.
As for buisnesses, you don't need to force equality. If you have a 10 jobs to fill and 10 white people fill those positions best, there would be nothing wrong with hiring 10 white people then. Balancing your workforce on your own does benefit a company if done right, but being forced to just isn't right. Example: a mexican salesperson is the best seller to mexicans. If you have all whites, you loose some potential.

No more government sponsored grants simply because of your race. Example, one type of race (mexican maybe?) I heard gets like $43,000 to set themselves up in florida or something. Not exactly sure, but I know something like this exists.
No. That's being prejudence against all other races.

Equality can't be achieved if you treat races differently, now can it?
Such efforts that are being used to try to balance our the races would instead be used to balance out the poor. If 75% of children who are a "minority" are too poor to afford good schooling, then yeah, give them some help. Giving it to them simply BECAUSE they are a minority doesn't work.

Business
No easy tax cuts, except, a small easy tax cut for the number of people employed at your corporation. A ratio type thing. If you make a billizonzon dollars and only employ like 100, tax the hell out of you. If you make like 500,000 and employ 100 people, bigger tax cuts.
Stricter pollution control.
More focus on power, water efficency.

Down to a very specific level: PETA gets no support from the government and is treated as a profitable organization if it's not already. Other changes I'm sure could be made, but this one is the one that pisses me off the most.

Other
A tax equation instead of tax brackets. There is nothing stupider than making $1 more and being put into a higher tax bracket simply because of that $1.

Tighter control on what our taxxes are being used for. There's something wrong when your taxxes goes to someone else's private jet and travel plans.

Bigger budjet towards the advancement of technology and defense, less towards foreign aid.




I could go on, but as is, I'm sure no one will read this anyways. ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-09 at 08:12:01
I read parts of it....man, that is THE perfect world, I'd love to live in that. Even though not everyone is happy, there is still something being done to make em happy, very good description purity
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-09 at 21:54:24
Isolatedpurity you forgot about the looks of people. A perfect world would be seomthing in which everyone can look good tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-07-14 at 11:42:42
Wonderful description of a perfect city, but completely impossible economically. (i no it doesnt matter, but ill say it anyway)
if the government spends so uch on homeless and orphans then it will run out of money, putting the USA in economic depression, which makes our country create less things to trade, which will also hurt countries we trade with, and we will have less food, and all that will mean no more UTOPIA (and dead pppl)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-14 at 21:54:48
QUOTE(MiLlEnNiUmArMy @ Jul 9 2005, 06:54 PM)
Isolatedpurity you forgot about the looks of people. A perfect world would be seomthing in which everyone can look good tongue.gif
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You and looking good pinch.gif, Feeling good is better happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-15 at 02:08:01
A perfect world:

Anyone who steals from innocent people is killed, anyone who kills innocent people is tortured, anyone who tortures innocent people is tortured on TV smile.gif.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-15 at 07:36:53
QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 14 2005, 11:08 PM)
A perfect world:

Anyone who steals from innocent people is killed, anyone who kills innocent people is tortured, anyone who tortures innocent people is tortured on TV smile.gif.
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Perfect? Nah, I think you just love watching people getting tortured.... blink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-07-15 at 13:15:11
It's not perfect for the people being tortured. You cannot ever reach perfection, as a perfect thing, to be perfect, must have always have been perfect, so it's history is one of perfection. Therby, a perfect world is one where no problems or conflicts have ever existed, so it is not one where your solutions are being inacted, it is one that has never needed your solutions in the first place. Pretty boring place, since without conflict, (getting food, getting money, getting work done, etc.), you pretty much don't do anything. In fact, existence itself is an imperfect thing, as there are constant shifts and a general instability. Therby nothingness is the only perfection.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-07-15 at 13:55:52
QUOTE(MiLlEnNiUmArMy @ Jul 9 2005, 08:54 PM)
Isolatedpurity you forgot about the looks of people. A perfect world would be seomthing in which everyone can look good tongue.gif
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No... you're just thinking in a different aspect. My post is talking about perfection that can actually be achieved.

QUOTE(Silver-Dragon @ Jul 14 2005, 10:42 AM)
Wonderful description of a perfect city, but completely impossible economically. (i no it doesnt matter, but ill say it anyway)
if the government spends so uch on homeless and orphans then it will run out of money, putting the USA in economic depression, which makes our country create less things to trade, which will also hurt countries we trade with, and we will have less food, and all that will mean no more UTOPIA (and dead pppl)
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Homeless / orphan would be supported from local taxxes, not federal... if it means anything to you.
Instead of poor welfare systems, it would be directed at homelessness and such instead. The wasteful taxxes overall would have to be cut out. Also... if the homeless people and such get helped to get jobs, more taxxes would be generated. Plus, there is always charity and such. Salvation Army doesn't need to feed random people, they can feed the people in those homes. There are numerous things being done about homeless/orpans... centralize everything... one or two big buildings to take care of everything should be more effiecent than a bunch of smaller efforts. If you're homeless and don't want to go to such a home, than you are censored.gif out of luck. You can't help people who don't want to help themselves... this also, again, applies to censored.gif ty welfare systems. People too lazy to contribute to society and be a bum shouldn't be helped.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-15 at 15:51:39
I think a perfect world is one where you don't have to change the world to fit the people, or try to suit the majority of what the people want, but one where you brainwash everyone into thinking the same way. That way you can brainwash people into thinking like EVERYONE looks good no matter what, and brainwash them into only believing the beliefs of what the society wants you to believe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-15 at 20:46:33
QUOTE(Parthx86 @ Jul 15 2005, 06:36 AM)
Perfect? Nah, I think you just love watching people getting tortured.... blink.gif
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No, I actually hate to watch torture scenes in movies. tongue.gif

But I would love to watch a child-rapist be tortured, because there is actually a reason for it. It could be American Idol style, where people phone in and vote on which torture to inflict.

Why are you against those punishments?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-16 at 12:05:51
I think torture would be a good way to punish criminals, though I wouldn't want to witness or perform it because things like pulling out someone's fingernails with pliers is just nasty. I remember seeing something like that on the history channel, lots of gruesome ways to torture people.


Castration for sexual offenses is the best punishment
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