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This thread is mainly for everyone to define what kind of world is perfect in their own opinion.
Or, you can discuss other people's opinions, but in a mature way.
Also remember that this is a serious discussion, so think twice before suggesting an idea, 'free candies for everyone' is not really a perfect world.
Also, provide advantages and disadvantages for your type of world in the end of the post.

I'll start off with my idea:

A perfect world, in my opinion, is a world of anorexian atheists.
Since everyone is anorexian, the food costs will drop a lot (because there will be more food for everyone's needs).
Also, anorexians usually don't live longer than 45 years, while people today live up to 75 and 80 years, so by everyone being anorexian the world's population will drop, there will be less people over bigger areas, bigger houses will cost less - taxes will drop.
Since everyone are atheists, the term 'racist' will be gone, people will no longer have a reason to hurt other people because they relate to a group of religion, what will lower the anger among everyone.
Also, since no one believes in God, people will no longer have to study their religion's history, and will have more time to study science and math, so that people will become more intelligent.

Advantages: What you get is a world where life are four times cheaper (what leaves you more money to spend on entertainment), hate is rarer, and the technology will develop ten times faster (more&better entertainment of the money you spend).

Disadvantages: Life span will be smaller, people will die between the ages 35-45 and in many cases won't have a chance to see their children’s children.

Note: no offence to people who weight above average or believe in God, this is purely an imaginary idea based on several real facts, there was no intention to harm anyone.

Anorexian isn't a word. If you meant anorexic, you're pretty sick. Anorexic people look disgusting for one. Your perfect world revolves around a mental desiese =/

If we're allowed to have unlimited clean resources in our perfect world, that would definitly be a part of mine... but since your perfect world is so dismal, I'll assume we aren't, and that we're only allowed to mess with how people act.

My perfect world: Everyone makes totally unbiased decisions, and are is well imformed with no falsity (especially when the decision is over something of importance to the human race).

If your assumption of a lower lifespan is correct, you won't get a really fast progression of technology. This is because people need their education before they can contribute, and a lower lifespan means that they have less time to research and whatnot.

Now, can you prove your claim that less food means lower lifespan? I mean, you give people just enough food to have "enough". Why would that lead to a lower lifespan? The fact that people won't be stuffing themselves with food would mean that they would probably have less of a chance of getting many of the common diseases today (heart problems, high blood pressure, etc.).

Yes, if you starve people, they become malnutritioned and have a lower lifespan. But if they eat a healthy amount of food, they should be fine.


BTW, I won't be here until the end of the long weekend, so I won't be replying to this until then.

I agree with Psycho and Spaceboy.

Anorexia is a bad Metal Disease. No offence, but you sicken me by even thinking that a world full of Anorexic people would be good.



There is no problem with the food costs (and we have plenty of food, it's just distributing the food that is the problem), it's the nations economy, inflation is rising.....

And like Spaceboy said, if people only live to be 45, Technology would advance very, very slow. Because like he stated, people need their education.

What makes you think that taxes would drop? They probibly would be the same. Taxes aren't made up because of the population, it's made up by the government and is set by the government. And there is alread enough space in the world. "Over Population" is bull shit. The world will not overpopulate, but countries can.

The term "Racist" will never disapate. Racism was there, is here, and always will be there no matter what. People aren't hurt by the religion they choose due to racism (some are, but most aren't) They are hurt by racism because of their ethnicity

For example, take a look at the USA from 1770-2005. First it was the Indians. Next, the Asians during WWII. The Negros (I will use that term so I may not try to offend anyone) have always been victims of racism, up until around 1968 (but they are still being victims of racism even after this date)

Most people don't study the history of religion so saying this was kind of pointless.

I guess what i'm trying to say is this:

Being in a world full of Anorexic people is a fallacy within it's own.

Now, my perfect world.........




Is THIS ONE! The only problem I have with todays world, are the corrupt governments and all the lies they try to hide. Let the truth be known!

And I also hate wars because I don't want to get drafted and die for a country that I don't believe in (I don't believe in it because of the lies Bush has put out)

He doesn't need to. It's very obvious.

Your immune system is weakened by malnutrition.

The thing is, if you eat well, you're not anerexic. A society of obsese people would be just as bad as an anerexic one.


You need to look up the defintion of Anerexia.


Are you refering to the U.S.A. only, or our universe? I'm pretty sure starving children in 3rd world countries don't think they live in a perfect world.

The defenition of Anorexia (In Psychology) is the loss of apitite, or haveing no apitite. The Mental Illness known as Anorexia is usually caused by self-esteem issues, Bolemia and sociaty. Bolemia (I dunno how to spell it) is usually associated with Anorexia

I was refering to the universe. But like I said in my post before yours:

If we could distribute, those kids would not be starving.

Americans throw away sooooooo much food....

Heh, this one doesn't.

Lower food costs will solve our problems? Food is already cheap as it is. Lower food costs means less income for farmers/food producers. If EVERYTHING costs four times as less, then you're probably going to make that much less money.
As for life span, that isn't really true. There have been studies in lab rats where eating less than necessary actually ADDED to the life span.

Kellimus: Anorexia nervosa: A psychophysiological disorder usually occurring in young women that is characterized by an abnormal fear of becoming obese, a distorted self-image, a persistent unwillingness to eat, and severe weight loss. It is often accompanied by self-induced vomiting, excessive exercise, malnutrition, amenorrhea, and other physiological changes.

I wasn't even quoting you, so I don't know what your point was... You didn't say we needed to distribute in your Perfect World, you just said we needed a more truthful government. Feel free to change your mind, I was only pointing out an obvious flaw.

Mini, were the rats afraid to eat because they were scared they would get obese? Food provides the body with energy... I'm pretty sure anerexic people don't eat nearly the amount they need to, for the things a hard working person has to do. So unless you're very lazy, it will have drastic affects on your health.

Have you ever tried to play a sport, after missing breakfest? You feel really sick... you probably puke if you don't stop. That's not healthy.

Bulimia and puking because of a lack of energy are unrelated, please don't assume they are.

My English isn't very good... and yes, I'm sick.


You can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.


No no... you can mess with everything, as long as it's technially possible - means it can happen with the current natural physics laws and such, even if it's impossible to accomplise because of human will.


As PsychoTemplar already mentioned, Anorexia means starving yourself, means eating less than your body needs.

There are people in the age of 18 who weight only 30 kilograms, because of being anorexic, they eat less than two small meals a week, I can look up for some pictures if you don't believe this.


No problem with food? Go tell that to families with 10 kids where the parents have no jobs (yes, there are plenty of those).
I'm not quite sure what you said about nations economy tho...


And they will get their education, have you ever noticed how much of your life is wasted on religion? Some people even spend their whole life on studying religion, if they all studied other things instead, there would defintly be a difference.
Besies, 30 to 40 years of studies when you have support from lots of other people is definitly enought to make progress.



http://www.ceda.berkeley.edu/papers/rlee/deathtax/


So you're saying that goverments make-up taxes?


Sure. That's why you can find homelesses and poor people all over the world. [/sarcastic]


Well, you've already stated two major problems in our world, it's not perfect.


I don't think that workers who have to do two jobs just to keep their apartment and health care would agree with that...


Lab rats, and human, are not exactly the same.

Anyway, people, suggest your own ideas! You don't have to like mine, but don't focus just on that.

About the malnutrion, there are vitamin pills that would help that, and anarexic people would have no problem with it (who gets fat off vitamin pills?).

It's the same thing, people die, country doesn't overpopulate. If a country overpopulates, people don't say "Oh there are too many people here, let's move to Mongolia!"



My perfect world (not saying it's possible)
Every war is a political war, the fights being fought with words, not bazookanuketanks of doom IV. If you kill someone, you sit in a steel box with air holes and with water and bread delivered 2 times a day for the rest of your life. If there is a rule against something, that means you can't do it.

I really disagree with the anorexia thing, why intentionally starve yourself of what your body needs. That's definitely not a good thing if you want to live up to your full potential. I heard that the problem is that we don't have enough food around the world, it's just that it's not evenly distributed as Kellimus said, you see here in America there's enough food to go around and make people obese, but in other third world countries there's hardly enough food.

I think we live in as much of a Perfect World as there ever would be. There's always going to be the lowest class, there's always going to be "Third World Countries", and there's always going to be rich snobs. The country will always be run by assholes. We couldn't get much closer to a perfect world at all unless we could change the mindset of every last person on earth into our own liking, but people think other people should believe a certain thing making it impossible to get even close to a perfect world, therefore, I think we live as close to a perfect world as possible.

Distrubution of food is based on a "need" basis. Necesary productivity is based on a "capability" basis.
Someone who happens to have a low-requirement body that is capable of doing more physical work then others would have to put up with less food and more work than some others, but that would be made-up for by the increase in available food which would be distributed based on one's productivity.
We would have population and size limits- there would be a limit on the size of cities and such, and a population density limit. Should there ever be a population boom, excess people will be killed and eaten for food. Animal/pet cruelty would be just as strict and serious a crime as it would be for a human.
I'm too lazy to list any more at the moment.

... GAH!

It's "technicaly possible" for the world to not be run by rich snobs, wesmic. Therefore, if that's the problem you percieve, then in your perfect world they could be gone.

The perfect world... thats not possible... But here is the closest you can possibly get to a "perfect world"

1.Every single person is one same race.
2.Every single person has one certain religion ENFORCED on them.
3.People would be executed at 40 years of age
4.Criminals are executed without a thought
5.Rebels are executed without a second thought (Including disagreeing with the government)
6.People with disabilities would be executed when they were born
7.Every person is given property of the same location as the next person
8.Every person is paid the same
9.A form of government would assign every person a certain job

Why?
1. There is no racism
2. No religous Prejeduces
3. No overpopulation
4. You wont have a bad world without criminals... even if you have to sacrifice a few of the innocent. (maybe they didnt do it, but they get killed anyway)
5.No rebellions! The government wouldnt be overthrown
6.No prejeduces, once again
Its obvious about the next ones. Ask me if you dont get one.


Now that list sickens me down to my heart. Would you want to live in a world like that? Thats the closest to perfect you could get.

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That's not "perfect" because it doesn't make anyone happy.

I think a perfect world would be to put everyone into their own virtual reality and just have them there where they can do WHATEVER they want to do. That would make everyone happy

A happy world would be a dictator so strong that he could go shut the up and sit the down n00b to everyone.

iron-fisted dictator of the world, if you will.

When you grow up, you will make a great sadistic dictator.

2. How about no religion at all?
3. That is just cruel, old people don't overpopulate the Earth, horny teenagers do.
4. I go steal a cabbage because my family is starving, so go ahead and chop my head off.
5. Having the government overthrown is good, it allows the government to be changed to what is good for the people at the current time. If that happened then we would have a despot instead of a president.
6. Do you want to know why there wouldn't be prejudice? Because the poor kid was chopped up because he was born the wrong way. You take this the wrong way, if you mean good then try punishing the prejudiced people (duh) not the people made fun of.
7. Then everyone would have to stand on top of each other.
8. Then everyone would work at McDonalds and not bother going to college.
9. People who are not very good at a certain job, would get it anyways. nice.

You dont get it. It makes everybody happy. Well.. sort of... though it may be sick to you, its better than being a starving child in africa... Its the closest to getting everybody happy as we can get.


That could be one, i thought you would assume i meant that. ANY religion.


...I dont think we'll reproduce much with 70 year old people walking around this earth and no younger ones.
Horny Teenagers... well... we would reproduce more...

And your point was that you didn't want the world to overpopulate, and killing old people would make no sense because most older people are infertile anyways. Not to mention it is cruel, and if I think it's cruel, obviously not everyone is happy.

The Nations economy is inflating (things cost more then they really should)

Why are you worrying about the small percentage of people that do? THey don't matter.

I don't even understand what you're trying to say on this one

The government made taxes, yes.

I didn't say the world was perfect. If those problems were eliminated, the world would be close to being perfect

ADDITION:
Woah.... I'm gone for like 30 mins and boom! lol

Not true.
A world in which everyone is equal is not necesarily a happy world, and that's all that you've described- the closest you could get to equality.

1st, the world wont overpopulate with just people under 40.
2nd, like i said, if you dont like the system, BAM!



http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=17410 There I explain why you would need these rules.

Hmm... I think taking devilesk. out of it would make it perfect

warhammer just tell people to read 1984 that should get your point across

Second off like some people i think this is the perfect world for i believe in the paradox that the imperfect world is the perfect world.Also about those starving African kids everybody talks about, go talk to Green Peace about why so many African people die of starvation...



P.S. GOD DAMN I HATE THAT MOTHER IN GREEN PEACE SOOOO MUCH FOR THAT

O yea, another rule this world would need.

Each... Country? would be the EXACT same size as the next! Water would not be owned. Just belonging no no one.