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Well, it might be that I need some sleep, but it just seemed to me like everyone was saying everything harshly, I'm imagining (IM NOT A FKIN DRUGGIE) and anyway, trying to say something back to what you said is kinda hardt but Id say that we've reached an end to this topic....


Im just gonna delete my last post, I agree a lot of it was vague, or just some bs my mind came up with. Well, gnight everyone


What about the fact that my religon believes killing animals is wrong?

The problem with most religions, or atleast zealous followers of them, is that they don't like to accept the possibility that anything within them can be wrong. That's obviously not one of your faults, so it doesn't apply anyways.

I think this sums up my feelings about vegetarianism.

But seriously, meat tastes awesome. And animals eating animals is part of nature, so why should we stop now? You think it isn't cruel when a lion crushes some gazelle's windpipe and holds the terrified thing for the ten or so minutes it takes for its brain to shut down from asphyxiation? No death is pretty. So who cares?

Meh. I'd rather be dead that a cow. Cows suck. And I believe that the way they kill them is a spike into the bad of the head, actually. You said they're hanged by their feet and decapitated, (still conscious), should that be in an order of time... they're conscious without a head?

I want to post this before I g2 bed



First off. How do you know it "feels" like us? Animals feel, but not the kind of feelings we have. Animals feelings are instinct, not gained through their environment, two completely different things.

Second off. Animals CANNOT "think" like us. They think based off of instinct, not out of intelligence or feelings or anything else for that matter.

Animals = Truely instincts

Humans = Thought patterns

And to bring this up. If you don't eat meat, you become deficient in Vitamin B12. Do you know what Vitamin that is for? It is an essensial vitamin for the thinking part of your brain. With this vitamin you can think clearely, and normally. Without this vitamin you become one of........................ THEM! (PETA, Veggies)

So think about it. If you say we meat eaters think like animals...... Maybe it's just you Vitamin B12 deficient people who are really thinking like animals........

Yea maddox owns lol I read the PETA article before and also his responses to that noob hatemail which he OWNED.

Who in the *uck said that? Dude, that is blown way out of proportion.

I have seen a cow get "slaughtered" and you know what they do first? Shoot them in the back of the head to kill them. Then they precede with the "slaughtering"

The reason they jerk and stuff, is because the nerves still have electrical pulses going through them, making them twitch, jerk, ect...

Ever seen a dog get ran over? I have, first hand. I went and picked the poor little dead bastard up, and he was dead as can be. Yet, he still somehow was able to move...

Hmm...... So are cows really still alive when the "slaughtering" begins?

No.

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If i'm correct, Hinduism only worship Cows, not all animals....

Sooooooo, why don't you start following your religion?

And seriously, animals are meant to be killed. If they weren't, "God" wouldn't have put them here.

Well, everyone tells me that hindiusim worhsips cows, but I have no idea what that is. In the 12 out of 13 years of my life where I was Hindu, I did not once worhsip any sort of cow, altough there is a god with the head of a cow, doesn't make me wanna worship a cow.

Alright, so I'm getting all of your points, and if I was just a kid with no previous thoughts stuck on a fence, I would've jumped to your side. But I've been raised not to eat any animal in any sort of way. I know its 'natural' but I still think its all together wrong. That might just be how I am, I'm very stubborn and I hate changing my opinion. Well, thanks, I'll stop trying to spread the vegeterianism (does my spelling get worse each time I say it?!)

ANIMALS, its whats for dinner!
(this includes liberals, they taste like chicken )

And since when do you know what I taste like?
As for the "cow worshipping", I think they're confusing religions.

ok, i read the first page and then i just thought screw it so i just skipped to here.

i like meat, meat is good! and plus, i have to eat a lot of meat cuz i play football, and football demands a lot from your body.

eh meats good though our bodies are built for more of a veggie intake meat is needed. And to those replys about meat being more essential than veggies in the past first of all no it wasnt (except maybe in Africa) your wisdom teath are there to be able to crush nuts and such, and your appendix was there to take in the excess fiber they got. Anyways PETA isnt that bad i have friends in PETA they are cool though they aren't the hardcore ones that you guys are talking about. The real enemy here that we can all agree with... THATS RIGHT GREEN PEACEGOD I HATE THEM SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So once we all become vegeterains what are we going to do with the left-over animals, or all the animals in fact? Will we release them and we will live in eternal harmony? We will dance till the day is gone! Then we will feast on the plants with no feelings, with our fellow animal brothers! While the hunters go kill some game to put on our walls.

Also, I don't think all vegeterans have problems with hunters who hunt for trophies, which is kinda flawed logic if you ask me.

[center]I'm a vegetarian, amazingly enough.
I don't think that animals need to be killed, processed, and eaten. Why do I need to kill an animal and eat it, when I can get the same nutrition without processing and mutulating a living being? Gad, anyone see why I'm an anarchist; I believe in LIBERTY![/center]

Uh, Rabbitman, where do you get your protein and other nutrients found only in meat, eh? What plants have protein?

And besides, PEOPLE EAT TASTY ANIMALS: Support PETA!

Uh.... If you don't eat meat you will start to lack the Vitamin B12. And that vitamin is vital for the thought processes of your brain. Why do you think so many Evno's and Veggie's are *ucked up in the head and don't think normal?

Not saying you're one of those types, but seriously. Liberty? There is no freedom for animals that we have bred. For animals in the wild there is freedom.

Answer this. Do you think the human race would have survived by just being Herbavores? Do you think the Gauls would have had their massive warriors? Do you think we would have won the Revolutionary War by just eating Salad and Beans???

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Exactly. You have been raised (on beliefs that are Abinormal [Young Frankenstein is the shit] to sociaty. I'm not saying it's bad to just eat pure vegetables and salads and shit. I'm saying it's wrong to just do that.)

There is no 'natural' about it, it is natural. And you only think it's wrong because your parents taught you that it is wrong, there is nothing wrong about it. Now, if you didn't eat meat cause you couldn't stand the texture, that would be perfectly fine.

I have an adventure for you. Go to a resturant that is a good resturant. And order yourself a stake (I dunno how you should order it cause I dun like stake. Ask the waiter the best way it should be prepared or something) and try it. Or get yourself a juicy hamburger from somewhere, you mite just like it.

If humans as a whole were herbivorous, then our enemies would have done the same; just salad and beans.


The thing is, if we didn't breed them for food-purposes, then they, well, wouldn't be bred for food purposes.

Are you saying plants aren't alive? Thats almost more hurtful than eating meat itself. (Well besides the killing part, which probably is worse.)
Eat a banana.
What I don't like is somewhat your story, a friend of mine was raised to be a vegetarian, because both his parents were. He was always scrounging around for meat.
I had a girlfriend who was vegan once. I remember she couldn't order anything at this one resteraunt we went to, and I just thought, "veganism is an excuse to be anorexic."

I play football....It really depends what position you play, and you can take pills to get the rest of your...whats the word, vitamins? I guess you could say daily essentials


I might like the taste, but I'll still hate myself for actually eating something that was once alive, Im just that way >_<


Yes, plants are alive, but they're can't feel pain, and they can't think either.


Err, did you stop to think that if we didn't eat them, we wouldn't be breeding them to eat them, therefore, they would be wild, concluding that they would be free?


I believe any form of hunting is bad, especially if its for trophies. I'll understand if you're out camping and you need food, but why go work yourself for 1 dinner(depending on size of animal being hunted, and amount of people eating)when you can go find a large tree of fruit, or a bush with some delicous berries?

I hate vegetables
But I dont eat much meat either, prefer things made of other things, bread is nice for an example, with chocolate on

Parthx, I'm just going to tell you why I eat meat.

IT TASTE GOOD!

Well I think in the past they either hunted or foraged for food. Way back in the past they didn't have knowledge of how to cultivate things.


Yea! Plants aren't living beings.

Heh you know what I think we should do, lets not kill plants OR animals, we could survive off of insects and vitamin supplements. There are millions and millions of bugs in the world, we won't go hungry eating them.

Anyway once scientists start improving cloning I bet all our food would come from cloned everything, even plants would be cloned.

If killing animals is wrong because they can "think and feel", then killing plants is wrong because they give us oxygen to breathe.

Kellimus, even though I'm not a vegeterian, please do not use the flawed arguement about losing certain vitamins we require if you don't eat meat. Subsitutes for meat exist, such as tofu which provides protein. Other things that aren't meat may contain the same vitamins as meat. -.- B12 does not only come from meat.

But meat still taste good.