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Answer: NO, This doesn't belong in a forum because it belongs in a Private Message if directed towards a specific person. But since you decided to post it out like this, now the whole community's on your back.

All the "as you knew it would" crap is bull:poo:, I don't even predict anything, hell I don't even think when I tell people my discoveries.

Lost your replays? Well boo hoo.
Long history? You mean, long time ago.

No, I did not know the extended unit deaths would require a patch. New problems are almost NEVER caused by new patches.

Did I even SAY I hated Starcraft? Starcraft is basically the only PC game in my life, why would I play it so much if I hated it? If I hated it, nobody would be playing Starcraft by now. I'd make hacks if I hated it, I'd completely destroy the entire game if I hated it, YOU probably wouldn't be playing it if I hated it. There would be exploits revealed beyond your most :censored:ed nightmares. If I hated it I'd learn programming too.

I'd love to see that legal action. Yeah, come to Canada and arrest me...
Reason: Finds bugs in Starcraft: Broodwar.
Uh huh... ok there.

Well <big surprised sound here> WOW, IT CORRUPTS REPLAYS!1 CORRUPT REPLAYS WILL AFFECT EVERYONE AND DESTROY ALL OF STARCRAFT!!1 OH MY GAWD!!1 :censored:ing deal with it, but god, I really need to call you a newbie for the replay thing. The replays aren't important. Blizzard doesn't care about the replays. Game > Replays. Replays are worthless.


What the hell do you mean making exploitive maps? I was enhancing the mapping aspect.


Modding with maps, of course it's a good idea to spread through the community, it's practically what every mapper dreamed about. I've sent bugs to Blizzard in the past, and, "No Response". Why would I send anything to Blizzard now if they don't even respond to anything?


Impossible. Stop being retarded. You can't run the triggers in melee anyway, so no changes can take place.

CONCLUSION:

If you're one of them, and they don't care, then shut the up and do what you have to do, completely ignore us, get the off the website, you don't want to listen, so then why should we listen to YOUR bull:poo:?

I'm not going to take a side on this argument because I don't feel like arguing, however, I do have something to offer. ihatett, and anyone else who wants to view old replays I can send you exe's for each patch, the bad news is you can't use them over battle.net (to the best of my knowledge, I havn't tried). I have .9 .10 .11 and .11B. If you want them send me an e-mail to rockewok@gmail.com It's not much, but it helps.

Telling me it's from a magazine doesn't make it any more true. Mind posting a link to an online article (in english) or telling me which magazine it's from? Stop acting like your word is the truth.

It's clear that 95% of everyone in Korea has played Starcraft? I realize over 7 million copies of Broodwar were sold in Korea but the population is literally over 10x that. That means for every 1 person with Broodwar, over 9 people would have had to play on that cd for 95% of the population to have had played the game.

They already mentioned bwchart
You don't need to email them the exe's

who cares

By "there" I meant at the event.

In all honesty you have to give him some slack on this. A lot of stuff we do with the game now would most definately be considered 'impossible' before they were discovered.

ADDITION:

Then you're probably right. Magazine article information please?

As far as I know, Canada has intellectual property laws.

I think we can definitely say DK isn't out to ruin SC intentionally. Seriously, he must be a loser if he is, and for dedicating all that time for research and discovering all of this.

BWChart to my knowledge doesn't come with the exes. You have to manually link the exe's or even if you click "Run in 1.09" it'll run in 1.13... Maybe my BWChart is old?

You're right chu, but running custom triggers in melee is truely not - and will never be - possible.

Stop posting, ihatett.

If it was, Blizzard would definitely patch it ASAP. It's probably just as worse as mutamorph.

I am not going to go away. You have still not explained why these triggers are so damaging to melee. I think it is quite obvious, given that in my absence, people have even given you hints on how to do it, that you can still watch replays. Other than that, I simply see no reason why you should be so hostile towards Deathknight and his discoveries.

UED77

He's hostile because every time a new patch comes out we have to wait a ****in month for BWScanner to update. Well, that's why I'm unhappy.

Why do you people think I meant population? He was claiming that the spectators didn't play starcraft.

I don't know the name of the mag, but:

The magazine is esforce.

I believe the pic is in the list of pics that I provided. 100,000 went to another recent event, and I know I've linked that pic here before (it was a Pic Of The Week at GosuGamers.net).

I really don't see why Deathknight and crew don't want to believe that so many people like Starcraft.

I don't think anyone here believes that 'so many people' don't like Starcraft.

Anyway, I cannot find any information backing up the fact that 150,000 or even 100,000 people were at the event or any Starcraft event for that matter. I read about how 100,000 people viewed an event live, but thats very different from being at the event. At most there were 10,000 lawn chairs for people to sit on at that event, and I generously estimated that.

I'm unlocking this topic. I don't care if you go to IP or Yoshi about this. This stays open until I or another moderator finds a reason to close it.

No, if you looked at the pics I direct-linked in the oringal post, you'll see tons of people not in the chairs.

If you looked at the other pics which I provided, you would see that the match is at a beach, and there are more people their as well.

The GosuGamers pic is of 100,000 people directly at the event (not including people watching on TV/internet, which obliterates the 100,000 mark).

That is quite unfortunate.
Although, I ask myself, what is BWScanner's purpose?

A hack detector? All players in a game have to be running it, surely, people are not so stupid to hack whilst a hack detector is running on their machine.

BW-Observer? If one is an observer, he is not playing the game, so obviously he can't be so concerned about this technique ruining melee gameplay. Observer mode is one of the most useless features of Starcraft anyway.

Perhaps the Replay Slot Creator? What purpose is there in watching replays on Battle.net?

Choosing a random map to play on? Come on! Have people become so lazy nowadays?

EDIT: Added formatting for clarification.

UED77

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ihatett, posting and running on an unresolved argument. Quite obvious.

L3g4cyW34p0n: awww
L3g4cyW34p0n: it's over
L3g4cyW34p0n: he doesn't have the power to convince the rest of us

Besides, this whole "Affect melee thing"-- it doesn't. Triggers do not affect melee, patches don't affect melee unless commands/stats have been modified. Replays are not part of melee. Replays do not change the way people play melee. Melee will still be played the same way. Now I'll ask that everyone stop this UMS/Melee thing, because it's about Replays. There are melee replays and there are UMS replays. It's an entire different aspect that I actually don't care about. Replays weren't here when the REAL Starcraft was played, how did you cope?

OMFG how can you get in trouble about this.
anyways what ever is DK doin might be the best thing the whole world needs.
everytime DK finds a glitch, the blizzard company has to get off their asses and start fixing starcraft.

I still think someone should make a program that fixes a corrupt replay to make it playable in the new patches.

Also, I feel replays have enhanced my Melee experience. It's great watching a great replay of a great melee game, or even a bs, or a funny idiotic moment in a melee game.

Let's just get the straight-up flaming out of the way-
ihatett:
YOU ARE A :censored:ING TOOL

You do realize that this is a website made almost completly for UMS map making right? Or maybe you didn't notice that in your blind rage over your precious replays from the last few months being made invalid by a patch which more-then-likely, will not happen. You come here and directly bash and insult not only the community that makes up this website as a whole; but more specifically one of the most creative, innovative, and to some extent inspirational members here. After spewing out a whole bunch of useless jargon about how melee is superior to UMS, you then make some pompus statement that your opinions are so good that you don't need to come and support them anymore in the thread you started. Yet, even after saying you won't post in this thread anymore you still come back and spew more of your trash in an attempt to force us to think that we are insignifcant.

Honest to god, just shut the up
We don't want to hear your ignorant garbage so just leave.

I'm done, I'll just continue laughing at you now. If you refrence my post I'll be more then happy to have a real debate with you.

It's a great idea, but the people who want it are too busy bickering about some future patch.