face it.... you only believe it because a) everyone else is doing it.... its "hip!" or b) you've been brainwashed by your parents, or lastly, c) you were feeling suicidal and picked up what was left of the bible after i wiped my ass with it and read it.
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Yes, but it could be true...
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If you read the links in the stickies you would make better arguments. Well, I should say you would actually make an argument. Just a little helpful advice

And you called me stubborn... lol?
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face it.... you only believe it because a) everyone else is doing it.... its "hip!" or b) you've been brainwashed by your parents, or lastly, c) you were feeling suicidal and picked up what was left of the bible after i wiped my ass with it and read it.
Yes, you know me so much. Why dont you tell me some more about me (Or whatever Devilesk said)
I proved you are stubborn via definitions (and your quotes). You can't beat that! oHhHhHH

QUOTE(Neiji @ Aug 23 2005, 11:00 PM)
And you called me stubborn... lol?
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And you are trying to prove a point by saying "IF"?
(Off topic) THIS AINT FAIR! 5v1!!
You are not a good arguer....
Face it

EDIT: I've taken on more than 5 people alone in previous arguments, sissy

QUOTE(Neiji @ Aug 23 2005, 11:02 PM)
(Off topic) THIS AINT FAIR! 5v1!!
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I refer you to this post I made:
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If you read the links in the stickies you would make better arguments. Well, I should say you would actually make an argument. Just a little helpful advice
The problem isn't the amount of people against you, the problem is you can't counter any of the arguments.
You realize, some many months ago, a person named "DRUNKEN WRESTLER" argued by himself. He was outnumbered by like everyone to him. (Yeah, I was a noob that time). He still owned everyone. Number means nothing. Intelligence and knowledge is much better. Logic is the best (which is knowledge).
Lol this reminds me of a time on battle.net when this noob dodged a 1v1 and said "his mom told him he had to go".
thats because you haven't opened your eyes yet? everything is about money and power... hmmm lets make up a god that everyone believes in, so that they will lay down there livesand fight wars for us (crusades), make them pay for gods forgiveness (selling indulgences) and make them pay to come warship us (offering plate).
SIDE NOTE: Speaking of rexy's avatar.. we had to do a book report on a fiction story of our choosing. My friend Jerral did it on the bible. lol
also in a post i made a while back, i'll quote SG-1 again.... "Knowledge is Power!"
5v1 is only bad when all five people are smarter than you
That would suck
Argument-wise, I'm not trying to flame...
Half of this topic consists of one liner replies. I move for a move topic to Null or Close.
It's possible to prove a point by saying IF, you just have to cover every possibilty.
Now what if THIS is the case:
God does exist.
God is not all powerful.
God did not create everything he just altered the course of some events.
God is a lesser deity, with limited powers.
Now if this was true and the God most people think of just makes everyone think he is all powerful.
Then if he was a lesser deity, then you would ask, where are the other more powerful ones? Maybe there are Much greater gods that just focus on events in different planes of existence.
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Half of this topic consists of one liner replies. I move for a move topic to Null or Close.
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... Sometimes there's no need for long drawn out elaborated posts. Clear, concise, and to the point are the best. Especially with one liners that can show a point clearly.
i move for stfu ultimo, we're "debating" here!
Okay, please realize that they are your beleifs and I don't want to discredit them. The fact is that when millions of beople belive several different religions, it leads to many, many problems...
You think we're trying to insult you and discriminate? I think you just don't get it...
EDIT: No more arguing tonight for me, Ihave homework. I'm so lazy
Here, my proof that numbers mean nothing:
-If one million people commited suicide, would you do it? (In the history of man, I'm sure there have been far more suicides than one million)
-If one million people jumped into lava, would you do it? (Doubtful, but still, the same point)
-If one million people lied, would you do it?
-If one million people stole, would you do it?
-If one million people try to beat false information into your head, would you believe them?
no one even comments on what i said 
Don't worry, Neiji doesn't either. (DODGEE1111111)

QUOTE(CheeZe @ Aug 23 2005, 11:13 PM)
Don't worry, Neiji doesn't either. (DODGEE1111111)

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The sheer oawnage is unbearable.
EDIT: !111!!!11!!1ONETWOONTWO!11!!1!!
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Here, my proof that numbers mean nothing:
-If one million people commited suicide, would you do it? (In the history of man, I'm sure there have been far more suicides than one million)
-If one million people jumped into lava, would you do it? (Doubtful, but still, the same point)
-If one million people lied, would you do it?
-If one million people stole, would you do it?
-If one million people try to beat false information into your head, would you believe them?
Well that last point is called the Media, but the whole idea i get.
The main problem there is that some people WOULD do those things just because all the other people did.
I'LL COMMENT!
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Now what if THIS is the case:
God does exist.
God is not all powerful.
God did not create everything he just altered the course of some events.
God is a lesser deity, with limited powers.
sounds like the forgotten realms books... VERY good books. I still don't believe ANY god exists. Life/World is what we make of it. There is no big brother there to help us. Its like being 18 and an orphan with no money etc. Your alone, just like mankind is. I know there is some form of life out there, we just need to find a friend (alien.)
I find it amusing that there could be multiple gods but none of them care about this world. Maybe others have more people that can believe in the god or we are on an energy-starved plane. (I started drifting into the realm of crazy towards the end of this)