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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-08-24 at 13:10:54
Ok, let's get this straight. A normal muslim leads the same life as any christian would, except they go to a mosque instead of a church on a different day, and call their god Allah.

And just like christianity, there are certain hate/extremist groups, such as the IRA for christianity, and Islamiyaah Indonesia // Al-Quaeda for Islam.

There are also different subreligions, such as Protestants for Christians and Shiites for Islam.

And, I have this to say to imperial:

If all muslims hate americans and want to kill them, MIGHT IT BE BECAUSE ALL AMERICANS HATE MUSLIMS AND WANT TO KILL THEM?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-24 at 13:45:09

Now, i thought we weren't going to stereotype? Not ALL americans do. just a lot.
Personally i am fed up with all this crap about religion. So many people die in the name of religion that it has really defeated the purpose of it.

What i'm trying to say is: Can't we all just get along?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-08-24 at 14:04:58
We can and I do, but most people don't even try. What is enlightening about hatred?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-24 at 14:53:14
Nothing is enlightened about it. It's human nature to hate.

Most people envy people who "Have it better then them". But in all reality, those people have the same, if not even harder problems in their life. So it's a vicious cycle.

The only plausible way I see that we could ever end hatred, is to have everyone not envy someone. But it's impossible to do that because the human race is also jealous. It's in their nature to be jealous. We could fix this is we could somehow control the way they are brought up as kids because I think humans have a kind nature. They are just brought up an envoronment that has made them grow into wonderful friends.

I.E. Your family is rich. Most likely, your parents were not very good because they never took the time to be good. Thus, creating tension throughout the household and making everyone snap at eachother. Thus creating anger. Then the anger builds inside because they won't hurt their family members because they love them to much, even though they are so mallicious to eachother. And then you release your anger on people at school who are smaller or younger then you (Freshman biggrin.gif), showing sociaty that you are unkind.

So basicly what I believe, is that if sociaty didn't judge people before they knew them, we could all get along.

And if you want to argue about rascists, they were brought up that way.

Everyones personality and beliefs are all bassed apon their environment.

And don't think the story is about me, because i'm not rich. But I guess I added a tiny bit from my life about why I envy people... Lol.

QUOTE(Devilesk)
Even if they might have good ideas, points, or arguments, if they can't communicate it to the other person so that they understand it then they can't actually "carry on" an intelligent conversation.


I agree with you on that, to an extent. Just because someone spells a little bit wrong, doesn't mean you should say they can't have an intelligent convorsation -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-24 at 15:11:02
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I agree with you on that, to an extent. Just because someone spells a little bit wrong, doesn't mean you should say they can't have an intelligent convorsation -_-


When have I said if only someone spells a little bit wrong? The answer is never.

Bad spelling is a bad habit that makes you look like an idiot when you write. It's not only what you are trying to say, but how you say it.


Also without hate you can't know true love or happiness.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-08-24 at 15:52:49
Ok ok ok, so a topic about muslims comes up, and everyone suddenly turns Muslim.
Then some people make jokes and other members can't realize that it's OBVIOUSLY SARCASM. So then the other members flame and talk about how much they rule. I almost barfed reading all your posts BUT, I'll ignore all that and offer some useless comments.

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Now, i thought we weren't going to stereotype? Not ALL americans do. just a lot.
Personally i am fed up with all this crap about religion. So many people die in the name of religion that it has really defeated the purpose of it.

What i'm trying to say is: Can't we all just get along?

No duh we can't, war and riots are good anyways.
1. War advances technology
2. Riots tell people that if they are idiots, they get beaten by the police.
3. War and Riots decrease population in this world filled with babies abandoned in trash cans.
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Ok, let's get this straight. A normal muslim leads the same life as any christian would, except they go to a mosque instead of a church on a different day, and call their god Allah.

And just like christianity, there are certain hate/extremist groups, such as the IRA for christianity, and Islamiyaah Indonesia // Al-Quaeda for Islam.

There are also different subreligions, such as Protestants for Christians and Shiites for Islam.

And, I have this to say to imperial:

If all muslims hate americans and want to kill them, MIGHT IT BE BECAUSE ALL AMERICANS HATE MUSLIMS AND WANT TO KILL THEM?

No, no, no, and no.
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Just because someone misspells words, doesn't mean they can carry on an intelligent conversation

If they were intelligent enough to have an intelligent conversation, they would be intelligent enough to generally not misspell words.
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silent that was a stereotype right there. Europe makes up stereotypes too. Not just us americans. BTW I believe theres 2 types of muslims, ones who interpert the Quran right and lead a peaceful life. The other type are the retards who believe Allah (who says not to fight and kill innocents no matter what) is telling them to KILL civilians and americans. Even cutting there heads off. What cowards.

There is one type of muslim and some people use their religion as an excuse to kill people, just like Christianity.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-08-24 at 16:17:35
I think of Muslims as people who are just like any other religious person. They have someone to look up to, to worship, and to seek help from.

ADDITION:
And it's retarded how people generalize all muslims as suicide bombers as a whole, just like generalizing all christians as catholics as a whole.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-08-24 at 16:21:12
Thx for telling me about India, I always thought Budism was the big thing there.

ADDITION:
I don't think of Muslims as Terrorists, I think of EXTREMEIST Muslims as terrorists.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-08-24 at 16:27:21
I’m going to defend myself again.
If you aren't smart enough to realize I was trying to spell "intelligent" then you are obviously less intelligent then me.
So I put an "E" where there was suppose to be an "I". Common error. You don’t have to be perfect to be intelligent.
I got my point across and you understood, so what’s the big deal? Were you having trouble deciphering my coded language?

Once again I'll point out that most Muslims do not like the Americans. Thats not stereotyping, thats fact. Infact, most countries dont like Americans tongue.gif
Its not ALL Muslims hate Americans, but most do. (I would too if they were taking over my country and killing us. I understand that is only Iraq. But, if all the Canadians were killing all the Japanese in Canada the Japanese in Japan would get pissed too)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-08-24 at 17:20:27
Well, this proved my point. Muslims can't take a joke. Kame, as Ultimo said, stating we should apologize is essentially saying "you can only have MY opinion", even if we didn't believe in what we said. Well, damn, I didn't know I lived in Nazi Germany, I better watch out for the Gestapo!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-08-24 at 18:09:14
I suggested Kame to do that. If you disagree, you disagree with me. Would you like to argue as to whether or not it was flame?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-08-24 at 18:46:08
Nah. He said he didn't want to apologize for a statement that offended someone, which is a flame, so I think I'm just going to temp suspend him. At least Ultimo edited his post. At the very least, if it was a joke, it was a poorly timed joke and was spammage and flammage.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by iamacow on 2005-08-24 at 22:01:21
Well, there isn't much left to discuss in this thread, really.
The subtitle of the topic was almost a flame anyway. It sounds like he is calling everyone ignorant. I was a little offended, to tell the truth, but I also spend more than half my time on SC bugging people, so it rolls of quick on the internet.
Spice hasn't responded yet, so we can assume he still hasn't figured out how ignorant we are.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-08-24 at 22:17:11
Then it appears he has an apology too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-08-24 at 22:22:47
Can you tell me how it was spam if I answered the question? -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-08-24 at 22:47:13
Wasn't talking to you...but generally, joking in the serious discussion forum is frowned upon. And since you did add [/sarcasm] to the end of your post...it makes it a joke...and well...you see where this is going biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2005-08-24 at 23:22:55
....what the hell?

That is so wrong... why aren't people aloud to state their opinions?

I probably would have said what wilhelmed said.

And probably the terrorist comment..

Believe me, Kame. I see so many people here on SEN say random crap about Americans and how we are all "fat slabs of crap," but no action was taken against them. How chippity-cheerio. Hell, in that one "American Government" thread, people said ""lets just kill all americans happy.gif "" No action was taken against them.

So, don't give certain people rights. Give everybody the same rights.

I'm allowed to state my opinion. I say that I am never going to trust a muslim, don't want one as a friend, and sure hope one doesn't live in this god damned city. I don't give a crap, thats my opinion, and sure as hell staying that way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-24 at 23:26:25
MrrLL since we are allowed to state our opinion, I think you are not a wonderful person.

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I'm allowed to state my opinion. I say that I am never going to trust a muslim, don't want one as a friend, and sure hope one doesn't live in this god damned city. I don't give a crap, thats my opinion, and sure as hell staying that way.


That's the stupidest blam I've ever heard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2005-08-24 at 23:40:03
Devilesk. Please leave SEN and go back to your ICL community. I'm really sick of your newbish attitude. I'm sick of seeing you go into SEN and calling everybody a newb, then I see you trottling off to op ICL. Why are you still here at SEN?

I really don't think this belongs in serious discussion anyhow..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-24 at 23:43:48
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Devilesk. Please leave SEN and go back to your ICL community. I'm really sick of your newbish attitude. I'm sick of seeing you go into SEN and calling everybody a newb, then I see you trottling off to op ICL. Why are you still here at SEN?


Lol, you're funny, and that's off topic and not relevant to this discussion. You should speak for yourself, your attitude in this discussion isn't all that great.

And by the way this isn't battle.net and even so I'm banned from the channel if you haven't noticed. I think you are the one who should go away, especially from this discussion.

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I really don't think this belongs in serious discussion anyhow..


You're right, that post doesn't belong in serious discussion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-25 at 00:27:25
uh muslims are lik the guys wit beards yeah and they liv in uh.... um.. south amerca?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SiLeNT(U) on 2005-08-25 at 00:28:57
Well, since we are all freely stating our opinions. My opinion is that all americans are fat pieces of blam who stereotype against the rest of the world and deserve everything that comes to them, they continue to support their blamty corrupt government and their 98-IQ monkey look-alike president who can't spell his own :censored:ing name.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-25 at 00:30:27
dats not a nice thin to say about muslims jus cuz they liv in south america
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-08-25 at 00:52:49
QUOTE(SiLeNT(U) @ Aug 24 2005, 09:28 PM)
Well, since we are all freely stating our opinions. My opinion is that all americans are fat pieces of blam who stereotype against the rest of the world and deserve everything that comes to them, they continue to support their blamty corrupt government and their 98-IQ  monkey look-alike president who can't spell his own :censored:ing name.
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Kame, I demand an apology from Silent for this response!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-25 at 01:01:10

Now i can see why some forums don't allow debate about religion and etc...
A couple idiots come in and spout some crap that offends everyone then the thread becomes flame city. While i would agree that most americans are ignorant about... a lot of things, so is everyone. EVERY group of people is ignorant about something. No need to get offended by someone being human wink.gif
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