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Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-23 at 16:55:12
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"No his opinion is not an opinion, because the sony ps3 was stripped down. "No his opinion is not an opinion, because the sony ps3 was stripped down. "No his opinion is not an opinion, because the sony ps3 was stripped down. "No his opinion is not an opinion, because the sony ps3 was stripped down. "No his opinion is not an opinion, because the sony ps3 was stripped down.


Ok i said that sure, you can keep going on with that. I wasnt even talking about Mp)Marines opinion. More like what the hell are you talking about.

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What are you talking about. When did I ever say that? If anything I've said all the time the Sony Confrence was boring as hell.


I must have misread
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-23 at 17:21:54
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Ok i said that sure, you can keep going on with that. I wasnt even talking about Mp)Marines opinion. More like what the hell are you talking about.

Re-read the thread you're not making any sense.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Elric111 on 2006-05-28 at 00:53:40
everyone in this thread is agruing which is the better system...first of all ps3 hasnt come out yet so we cant really be sure yet if its going to be better than 360...and remember its not the facts that decide which console is better, its the people. it could be super nintendo vs ps2 but if more people buy super nintendo and super nintendo games they have chosen super nintendo as the better console.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-28 at 08:36:14
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everyone in this thread is agruing which is the better system...first of all ps3 hasnt come out yet so we cant really be sure yet if its going to be better than 360...and remember its not the facts that decide which console is better, its the people. it could be super nintendo vs ps2 but if more people buy super nintendo and super nintendo games they have chosen super nintendo as the better console.[right][snapback]494266[/snapback][/right]

You can still discuss things whether or not they came out yet. There's speculation and you can base arguments on that. Ps3 is going to cost $500 dollars, I don't need to wait for it to come out to know that, it's already true. One reason why I won't be buying it anytime soon. So far there is no list of launch titles, however I do know all the games I want are coming out in 2007 and not on the 2006 release date, another reason not to get it.
We also know that it won't have rumble, that's one more. But it does have a rip of Nintendo's Wii motion sensor. However the Wii has both Motion AND Rumble so that shows that Sony really sucks at designing stuff. And how Sony in the past all their units have been buggy or didn't work, a final reason not to get the ps3.

And the discussion was over anyway, I don't see why you had to post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-28 at 15:16:12
same here i agree with Golden.

Btw PS3 controller cant do anything speical wow tilt comon. Are you serious? Wii controller is different its like total motion senor, it can tell difference of going forward like i mean closer and going back. Unlike PS3 which is like just tilt.

Bill Gates did say tilt is not mainstream and Sony fans laughed at him for saying that; however, that is true.

And i think Wii might loose just becuase of its lack of games just like its previous consoles. Gamecube was a extremly strong console and also was cheap; however, there wasnt much 3rd party games for it which totally killed it. Wii is so innovative; however, i bet once again 3rd party developres will not make as much game for it.

And back on the tilt function all games wont use it, and rumble people say is not needed; however, it really makes the game fun. Like when i use to play starfox 64 jezz the difference in the game with and without rumble was so big.

However, its not sonys fault they removed rumble... they got a lawsuit for it so meh...

However, just because it doesnt have rumble it wont kill the system... And the price is high but it wont totally kill the system. I expect PS3 to sell a lot, but not close to what ps2 sold. For this next generation or w/e i expect almost all console to sell around only 10-15 million difference.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-28 at 21:11:56
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And i think Wii might loose just becuase of its lack of games just like its previous consoles. Gamecube was a extremly strong console and also was cheap; however, there wasnt much 3rd party games for it which totally killed it. Wii is so innovative; however, i bet once again 3rd party developres will not make as much game for it.

As I said before (somewhere) the gamecube didn't have a good controller (According to 3rd Part Devolpers, not enough buttons etc.) no online, and smaller discs. So it was harder to make games for it, that's why no one liked it and didn't want to design for it. However the Wii has a good controller, online, and DVD9 format, also how the controller is completely revolutionary so a lot of 3rd party devolpers (Activision, Ubisoft, EA, etc) all like the new console, so it won't follow the same fate. If it fails it won't be because of 3rd party support.

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However, its not sonys fault they removed rumble... they got a lawsuit for it so meh... [right][snapback]494653[/snapback][/right]

The same lawsuit was given out to Microsoft, and they survived. Sony took out the rumble because it took up the same space as the motion detector (it's motion not tilt) they could've added it in but it would've looked "werid" and would've interefered with the motion detector. In other words, they suck at design.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Crispie on 2006-05-29 at 21:00:33
When Carmack(co-founder of Id Software, you know, doom, quake, etc) says he'd rather make games for the 360 because of how the PS3 was made poorly, you know theres something wrong with the PS3.

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And i think Wii might loose just becuase of its lack of games just like its previous consoles.
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The Wii had 27 games announced for it at E3. 27 for release! Thats rediculous. Nintendo stated they have been working hard to get 3rd party support and are doing everything they can to make it conveniant for developers. They even went as far as to state the GCN failed in this aspect, and they wont make the same mistake again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-29 at 21:42:17
Golden-Fist, your totally right about the GC i totally forgot about thoes aspects, like i only thought that 3rd party developers hated Gamecube..

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The same lawsuit was given out to Microsoft, and they survived. Sony took out the rumble because it took up the same space as the motion detector (it's motion not tilt) they could've added it in but it would've looked "werid" and would've interefered with the motion detector. In other words, they suck at design.


I mean isnt the PS3 controller less complex than the Wii's? W/e its still ending up as a tilt. perosnally tilt isnt much fun in a FPS game, and a lot more. Mostly used for driving games. So pretty much it really isnt mainstream.

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The Wii had 27 games announced for it at E3. 27 for release! Thats rediculous. Nintendo stated they have been working hard to get 3rd party support and are doing everything they can to make it conveniant for developers. They even went as far as to state the GCN failed in this aspect, and they wont make the same mistake again.


pretty sure GC was darn good at launch; however, after reading Golden-Fist post, i get why people didnt want to develope for GC even more... However, not only that, the Wii controller is still really different. Like if you bought a wii game without motion detecting and etc, i serioulsy wouldnt want to play that as much as a game with motion detecting. And wii remote doesnt have as many buttons.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-05-29 at 22:37:23
The buttons are nulled now. Because you have many different actions, so when in a game like God of War triangle is hard hit and square is normal hit. Now you just hold a button and depending how fast you swing that's what it'll end up being, and other things like that.

The Ps3 controller is a Ps2 controller with an Xbox Guide like button in the middle, and triggers instead of R2 and L2.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ice_Inferno_X3 on 2006-05-31 at 22:35:38
yea sony did drop the ball this E3 but there is one feature that most people don't talk about. that music downloading service that the PS3 will have...they spent so much time during the press conference talking about it. how many people here are gonna buy songs for their ps3? disgust.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2006-05-31 at 23:57:33
why would you do that when you can get it for free off the internet...

Meh unless there going to even copy MS on your own personal music, you really dont need to download any music off the ps3..
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