Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp(U) on 2006-06-26 at 22:18:59
Who here has read a case where the patient has been diagnosed with cancer soley due to marijuana? Who has heard a case where someone has died due to the physical effects of marijuana. As far as we know, it has chemicals, that's it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cruzo on 2006-06-26 at 22:21:28
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Myth: No one has ever died from using marijuana
The Kaiser study also found that daily pot users have a 30% higher risk of injuries, presumably from accidents. These figures are significant, though not as high as comparable risks for heavy drinkers or tobacco addicts. That pot can cause accidents is scarcely surprising, since marijuana has been shown to degrade short-term memory, concentration, judgment, and coordination at complex tasks including driving.(1) There have been numerous reports of pot-related accidents --- some of them fatal, belying the attractive myth that no one has ever died from marijuana. One survey of 1023 emergency room trauma patients in Baltimore found that fully 34.7% were under the influence of marijuana, more even than alcohol (33.5%); half of these (16.5%) used both pot and alcohol in combination.(2) This is perhaps the most troublesome research ever reported about marijuana; as we shall see, other accident studies have generally found pot to be less dangerous than alcohol. Nonetheless, it is important to be informed on all sides of the issue. Pot smokers should be aware that accidents are the number one hazard of moderate pot use. In addition, of course, the psychoactive effects of cannabis can have many other adverse effects on performance, school work, and productivity.
The Kaiser study also found that daily pot users have a 30% higher risk of injuries, presumably from accidents. These figures are significant, though not as high as comparable risks for heavy drinkers or tobacco addicts. That pot can cause accidents is scarcely surprising, since marijuana has been shown to degrade short-term memory, concentration, judgment, and coordination at complex tasks including driving.(1) There have been numerous reports of pot-related accidents --- some of them fatal, belying the attractive myth that no one has ever died from marijuana. One survey of 1023 emergency room trauma patients in Baltimore found that fully 34.7% were under the influence of marijuana, more even than alcohol (33.5%); half of these (16.5%) used both pot and alcohol in combination.(2) This is perhaps the most troublesome research ever reported about marijuana; as we shall see, other accident studies have generally found pot to be less dangerous than alcohol. Nonetheless, it is important to be informed on all sides of the issue. Pot smokers should be aware that accidents are the number one hazard of moderate pot use. In addition, of course, the psychoactive effects of cannabis can have many other adverse effects on performance, school work, and productivity.
http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/fact...logy.html#myth5
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp(U) on 2006-06-26 at 22:27:43
Heh. Yes, but not what I'm talking about. Good read though.
Edit: Unless of course you're simply stating that towards all readers on this particular topic for general awareness and not replying to my recent reply. Blaahhh, you can tell who's been smokin in his backyard! *lol*
Edit: Unless of course you're simply stating that towards all readers on this particular topic for general awareness and not replying to my recent reply. Blaahhh, you can tell who's been smokin in his backyard! *lol*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-06-26 at 22:43:46
QUOTE(Mp(U) @ Jun 26 2006, 10:18 PM)
Who here has read a case where the patient has been diagnosed with cancer soley due to marijuana? Who has heard a case where someone has died due to the physical effects of marijuana. As far as we know, it has chemicals, that's it.
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I'm assuming that Pot has is less healthy than cigarettes, but it's used in way less amounts than pot, so theoretically, pot's better for you, but that's like saying 'knives are better than guns'.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cruzo on 2006-06-26 at 22:45:06
Actually, I was replying your post. And of course i did throw it in here so that people can't say no-one has ever died of being under the influence of Marijuana.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-06-27 at 00:19:27
I say we should legalize it, those foolish enough to take pot can go ruin their lives, it's modern natural selection. Those who take pot will just keep taking pot and die or something, I don't really care. Those who don't take pot and then start taking pot when it is legalized probably would have taken other drugs later in their lives anyways, then they will just keep taking drugs and die or something, I don't really care. Keeping it illegal will steadily give rise to new gangs, and gangs end up killing people who are actually worth something. We should legalize it, take advantage, and tax it all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cruzo on 2006-06-27 at 00:22:14
I agree. Tax it and make money off of something that you know Americans will buy without any hesitation.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KoopaShellz on 2006-06-27 at 01:29:22
yo cruzo! im completely got yo back on this fool! %100! FULLY!
you guys dont understand, the whole human race is dying anyway, so why not jus tak some pot, its fun? it can help in some ways!
the world is overpopulated too! pot kills people! it helps the earth!
you guys dont understand, the whole human race is dying anyway, so why not jus tak some pot, its fun? it can help in some ways!
the world is overpopulated too! pot kills people! it helps the earth!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2006-06-27 at 01:31:11
QUOTE(KoopaShellz @ Jun 26 2006, 11:29 PM)
yo cruzo! im completely got yo back on this fool! %100! FULLY!
you guys dont understand, the whole human race is dying anyway, so why not jus tak some pot, its fun? it can help in some ways!
the world is overpopulated too! pot kills people! it helps the earth!
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you guys dont understand, the whole human race is dying anyway, so why not jus tak some pot, its fun? it can help in some ways!
the world is overpopulated too! pot kills people! it helps the earth!
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Coming from a guy who watches movies like that...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-06-27 at 02:42:53
KoopaShell. If you hate our race so much. Mail Kim Jong Il of North Korea.
"Hey! I live in US!***** Killme.bl, Sin City'XX State"
... Nuclear launch detected.
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should they legalize it, they need to make ventilated isolated building to smoke pot in. illegal to smoke around non-smokers.
"Hey! I live in US!***** Killme.bl, Sin City'XX State"
... Nuclear launch detected.
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should they legalize it, they need to make ventilated isolated building to smoke pot in. illegal to smoke around non-smokers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-06-27 at 03:14:21
QUOTE(Lyon(MC) @ Jun 26 2006, 04:28 PM)
and i don't care if people say "OH WELL ITS NOT ADDICTIVE!" cause thats bs, it'll kill you if you do it once cause your never going to stop.
Its not very addictive, if at all. Its not like cigarettes and/or other things where you go nuts without it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-06-27 at 03:42:43
... You won't know that until you try it 
and I very hope that you do. One more step to being unhealthy!
and I very hope that you do. One more step to being unhealthy!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro-Fire on 2006-06-27 at 09:54:05
Ahem.
But yes i do believe cannabis should be legalized.
Why?
1) more money for the economy instead of wasting money on stopping it
2) ppl use it anyway
3) bcuz cigarettes = "mild" cannabis (kinda like "low tar" cigarettes.
If cigarettes are legal, why not cannabis, bcuz they both do the same thing, yet cannabis has more of an enjoyable effect. as so i have heard
But yes i do believe cannabis should be legalized.
Why?
1) more money for the economy instead of wasting money on stopping it
2) ppl use it anyway
3) bcuz cigarettes = "mild" cannabis (kinda like "low tar" cigarettes.
If cigarettes are legal, why not cannabis, bcuz they both do the same thing, yet cannabis has more of an enjoyable effect. as so i have heard
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-06-27 at 13:37:39
Just to let you know, Pot IS a gateway drug, so those using pot are more likely to use other illegal drugs. I don't know if that would change when legalized, but I'm just throwing that out there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cruzo on 2006-06-27 at 14:27:30
QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Jun 27 2006, 12:30 AM)
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopi...=0&#entry514144
Coming from a guy who watches movies like that...
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Shapechanger, Suicide club is a very good movie to watch. It's very exciting and very intense. If you understand the movie completley you will understand how much the world is just a toy for us to play with.
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Its not very addictive, if at all. Its not like cigarettes and/or other things where you go nuts without it.
Anything can be addicitive. If you like to get high, you're addicted to the high. So you want it more and more.
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Just to let you know, Pot IS a gateway drug, so those using pot are more likely to use other illegal drugs. I don't know if that would change when legalized, but I'm just throwing that out there.
Incorrect, pot is not a gateway drug. There is no scientific evidence for the theory that marijuana is a “gateway” drug. The cannabis-using cultures in Asia, the Middle East, Africa and Latin America show no propensity for other drugs. The gateway theory took hold in the sixties, when marijuana became the leading new recreational drug. It was refuted by events in the eighties, when cocaine abuse exploded at the same time marijuana use declined. As we have seen, there is evidence that cannabis may substitute for alcohol and other “hard” drugs. A recent survey by Dr. Patricia Morgan of the University of California at Berekeley found that a significant number of pot smokers and dealers switched to methamphetamine “ice” when Hawaii’s marijuana eradication program created a shortage of pot. Dr. Morgan noted a similar phenomenon in California, where cocaine use soared in the wake of the CAMP helicopter eradication campaign. The one way in which marijuana does lead to other drugs is through its illegality: persons who deal in marijuana are likely to deal in other illicit drugs as well.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-06-27 at 15:30:16
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Shapechanger, Suicide club is a very good movie to watch. It's very exciting and very intense. If you understand the movie completley you will understand how much the world is just a toy for us to play with.
Uh huh.. You can go watch your Merchant Ivory films now.
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Its not very addictive, if at all. Its not like cigarettes and/or other things where you go nuts without it.
There is something called a chemical addiction, and then there is just regular addiction.
I don't see why people fail to understand this concept.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-06-27 at 17:16:48
Cigarettes are the real gateway thing. Of all the drug addicts I've met (and I've met more than I wish I had), every single one of them smoked first.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2006-06-28 at 02:29:51
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If cigarettes are legal, why not cannabis, bcuz they both do the same thing, yet cannabis has more of an enjoyable effect. as so i have heard
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They're totally different, one of them brings you up, the other brings you down. I could function perfectly fine and do things fine(if not better) without marijuana, but if I don't get my nicotine, I get so frustrated and can't function near as well, I don't see how people break the habit forever.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Eskimo Bob on 2006-06-28 at 03:24:24
QUOTE(Kow @ Jun 24 2006, 07:39 PM)
Pot is unhealty. Smoking one regular sized joint has as much tar and toxigens as 3-4 cigarettes, and those aren't exactly healthy for you. Thing is, people will abuse that rather than alcohol, thus not furthering society, as very little is needed to stimulate innovativeness, and not much more. While I do agree that pot is better than alcohol when it comes to the psycology associated with those high or drunk. Pot = Calm, drunk ~ mean, but people on pot have as good a judgement and reflexes as those drunk, so car accidents would not go down as drastically as you say. That's all I can think of right now, so I'll end it right there.
PS. I thought the Constitution was written on parchment.
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Dont Make Marajuna Legal, See those facts??
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QUOTE(Pyro-Fire @ Jun 27 2006, 06:53 AM)
Ahem.
But yes i do believe cannabis should be legalized.
Why?
1) more money for the economy instead of wasting money on stopping it
2) ppl use it anyway
3) bcuz cigarettes = "mild" cannabis (kinda like "low tar" cigarettes.
If cigarettes are legal, why not cannabis, bcuz they both do the same thing, yet cannabis has more of an enjoyable effect. as so i have heard
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But yes i do believe cannabis should be legalized.
Why?
1) more money for the economy instead of wasting money on stopping it
2) ppl use it anyway
3) bcuz cigarettes = "mild" cannabis (kinda like "low tar" cigarettes.
If cigarettes are legal, why not cannabis, bcuz they both do the same thing, yet cannabis has more of an enjoyable effect. as so i have heard
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About the cigarettes comment, They did try to make them illegal once i think...And the results wernt good..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-28 at 03:29:26
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About the cigarettes comment, They did try to make them illegal once i think...And the results wernt good..
That was alchohol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SOngo on 2006-06-28 at 04:03:33
this is one of the most idiotic arguements i've ever seen marijuana is addictive most people use it as a safe haven to relax and feel better, most people who smoke pot drink.. so it wouldn't get rid of alchohol.... and someone said people do see things and makes em more alert and observent?.... yea it will also make em paranoid and they might go and hurt someone or try something stupid to try to get rid of the hallucination. also it does kill you any type of smoke in ur lungs is bad. and no it wouldn't get rid of the drug dealers because if it was legal the price im sure for a dime would be more the 10$ so people would still smuggle it. and if not for someone to is a chronic smoker it takes more weed to get high then someone who just started to people would spend more and more money to get it thus causeing more depression in the usa. and when they spend so much on weed that it takes more then a dime to get em high then they will soon go to more stronger drugs then what legalize those drugs?............ 
SOngo
SOngo
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-06-28 at 12:56:08
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This is one of the most idiotic arguements i've ever seen marijuana is addictive most people use it as a safe haven to relax and feel better, most people who smoke pot drink.. so it wouldn't get rid of alchohol.... and someone said people do see things and makes em more alert and observent?.... yea it will also make em paranoid and they might go and hurt someone or try something stupid to try to get rid of the hallucination. also it does kill you any type of smoke in ur lungs is bad. and no it wouldn't get rid of the drug dealers because if it was legal the price im sure for a dime would be more the 10$ so people would still smuggle it. and if not for someone to is a chronic smoker it takes more weed to get high then someone who just started to people would spend more and more money to get it thus causeing more depression in the usa. and when they spend so much on weed that it takes more then a dime to get em high then they will soon go to more stronger drugs then what legalize those drugs?............ blink.gif
You can't spell or use words correctly and your don't end your sentences with a period if marijuana... was legalized it would sell for less than what gangs sell it for and there would be no point in smuggling it that would be like smuggling beer you don't smuggle beer now don't you there is no reason......... not to legalize it because those who smoke will keep smoking and die anyways so we might............ as well make profit off of it and at least put a puncture wound in the rise of gangs I really don't like the way you post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2006-06-28 at 13:00:43
Marijuana does NOT make you hallucinate, Songo. PwnPirate, why do you keep referring that marijuana is used/distributed through "gangs"?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-06-28 at 14:12:18
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Marijuana does NOT make you hallucinate, Songo. PwnPirate, why do you keep referring that marijuana is used/distributed through "gangs"?
Why are you saying it's not?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SOngo on 2006-06-28 at 20:43:58
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Marijuana does NOT make you hallucinate, Songo. PwnPirate, why do you keep referring that marijuana is used/distributed through "gangs"?
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oh i know it doesn't but cruzo i believe said it did and he said it made people more observent and stuff i was just saying