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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DrunkenWrestler on 2004-09-07 at 17:16:06
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Description of my 'Experiences':
Feeling of paralysis; inability to speak; sudden anxiety; breathing seems to stop; hearing unaffected,  but vision in monochrome and eyes cannot move. Intense concentration on moving a limb etc. makes me snap out of it.

Do any of those symptoms sound at all familiar?

Yep, that's exactly what I felt when I slept with one eye open. Tried so hard to move my arm but couldn't, and my brother was next to me watching TV. I wanted to scream "help!" but couldn't. I think what's happening is your body already released the paralysis chemicals prior to you going unconcious. Or you woke up but are still paralyzed. I'm really not sure.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carnorus on 2004-09-07 at 20:10:05
Ghosts are a phenomenon. But you have to think about it. If the word 'ghost' was made to fit on something someone must have come accross a real encounter, otherwise this post wouldn't exist now would it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DrunkenWrestler on 2004-09-07 at 20:32:11
QUOTE(Carnorus @ Sep 7 2004, 07:10 PM)
If the word 'ghost' was made to fit on something someone must have come accross a real encounter, otherwise this post wouldn't exist now would it?

Kind of like leprachauns, Zeus, the tooth fairy, and the loch ness monster?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carnorus on 2004-09-09 at 08:59:38
Yes, exactly. Where did these people come from? They must have been real at some point in time. Maybe the tooth fairy really doesn't come because your parents steal her job!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tazzy on 2004-09-09 at 10:43:01
Ghosts, some people say Ghosts are around as they have un-finished buisness pinch.gif . When they somehow finish that buisness they turn over. And are gone.

Me, All i can say ill believe in ghosts when i see one.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2004-09-11 at 17:38:29
I do, My brother in law. Has a :censored:en freaking picture of his house, If you look at the picture look at one of the pictures. You'll see an human staying near one of the :censored:en windows
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Roaring Emu on 2004-09-14 at 01:25:58
I believe. My aunt is diabetic (now dead) and was having some sort of possibly fatal sugar withdrawl or something. And her husband (who I forget his name) heard a voice telling him to go to the bedroom. So her life was spared. This is just one of many experiences they had with the ghost (like it organizing her shoes for her)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by VoidArchon(MC) on 2004-09-14 at 01:35:40
QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Sep 7 2004, 02:40 PM)
Same thing has happened to me numerous times. People call them Out of Body Experiences, but I can tell when I'm going into one, so I have this crazy idea of trying to control them!

I reckon what's happening is that my body is 'falling asleep' but the conscious areas of my brain are staying awake. Some evidence: It often happens when I'm exhausted.

Description of my 'Experiences':
Feeling of paralysis; inability to speak; sudden anxiety; breathing seems to stop; hearing unaffected,  but vision in monochrome and eyes cannot move. Intense concentration on moving a limb etc. makes me snap out of it.

Do any of those symptoms sound at all familiar?
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That's exactly what happened... God i hate how a mind can screw with yourself cry.gif
i was so censored.gif ing scared i couldn't even think i was just moving around limp
looking straight wherever my head went...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Roaring Emu on 2004-09-14 at 22:47:39
Was god or whatever made the universe drunk when they made ghosts?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2004-09-14 at 22:57:44
Ghosts do exist. Holy ghosts, evil spirits, they're everywhere. If you trust in the lord Jesus Christ you really have nothing to fear about evil ghosts. I heard many stories like in africa where people can see demons like right in the middle of the night right on their beds.

Speaking of ghosts... When i was like 7 or 8 years old, our relatives gave us this one little dragon statue that a budhist usually haves in his or her own house. My mom felt uncomfortable with the idea of this statue in our house. Not knowing ANY of this, i went to sleep that day. I was having some sort of dream, i was like with some friends. Then Suddenly my friends went alll paranoid and they started to scream, they ran telling me, RUN RUN!! I tried to run but then i tripped and then right in from of me appeared a ghost that looked just like the dragon from our statue. It was scary as hell dream, i woke up, told my mom, and she asked me to draw a picture of that "ghost" in my dream. I drew it and it looked just like the dragon statue which i've never seen in my entire life. It's kinda freaky when i think about it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DrunkenWrestler on 2004-09-14 at 23:41:59
Anecdotal evidence is not evidence! The experiment be be reproduced sucuessfully and have a high p-value (positive success outcomes). If I luckily make one basketball shot, it doesn't warrant the conclusion that I am a good basketball player. Or if you wish to ignore the law of parsimony, you could conclude paranormal agents were the cause of the ball going into the basket. Always start with what is known, and seek alternate explainations to phenomena before jumping to conclusions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cokymonster on 2004-09-15 at 14:30:23
i guess animals are REALLY stupid
since some of them can predict when major catastrophies will occur
(And yes, some animals are really stupid. Eg: my dog is afraid of a hulahoop biggrin.gif )

I think ghost do believe. Scientist are trying to prove it. Though people may still think they are the only living intellectuals in the universe, the spiritual essence is there. It's like faith. Either you believe in it or not; You could believe in the hindu gods, chinese gods, or christian god..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T.s.u.k.a.s.a on 2004-09-15 at 17:17:07
Ghosts are real. I've used Ghosts, In Starcraft that is. But seriousely, I have experienced paranormal activities. When it was the day my aunt died, my family lit a candle. My dad was going to the basement when the flame went out. I saw lights flashing from the basement. I went down there and saw the lights going crazy. They just kept flashing on and off. All of the lights were flashing and they were brand new. I tried turning the lights off and back on but it was no use. I lit the candle and everything went back to normal.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DrunkenWrestler on 2004-09-15 at 18:02:10
Your aunt died, and the candles went crazy. Just because event A happens before event B doesn't mean that A is the cause of B. If I bring a match to school, and ace a test, does that mean that the match was the reason I aced the test?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cokymonster on 2004-09-16 at 02:57:10
But you're forgetting murphy's law
if its implausable it doesnt mean it isnt impossible.

If you bring a match to school, it could have made the teacher think that you would burn the something at school, thus giving you an A so you won't get angry.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2004-09-16 at 11:11:56
what if the teacher never saw the match??
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2004-09-16 at 13:59:02
ghosts are real. thx to them i lost many games to them tongue.gif

-update-
damn someone did this already
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DrunkenWrestler on 2004-09-16 at 19:15:25
QUOTE(Cokymonster @ Sep 16 2004, 01:57 AM)
But you're forgetting murphy's law
if its implausable it doesnt mean it isnt impossible.

That's not Murphy's laws. I'm not saying if something is implausible, it is impossible. I'm saying you shouldn't forget Occam's Razor, or the law of parsimony. In comming to a conclusion, don't expand assumptions beyond the minimum required and start with what is already known. The simplist explanation that fits the data is more likely to be correct than a complex one that makes many dubious assumptions.

"As an example, if an investigator documents a single set of footprints and fingerprints matching the main suspect, finds his dead wife had a history of marital infidelity, no reasonable alibi, and so on, he would probably not postulate an additional assailant who stood around, effectively did nothing and left no detectable physical trace. Doing so is simply unnecessary and yields no explanatory advantage."

http://users.rcn.com/rostmd/winace/critica...able_claims.htm

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If you bring a match to school, it could have made the teacher think that you would burn the something at school, thus giving you an A so you won't get angry.

Good, you are seeking alternate explainations to explain things rather than making hasty conclusions. Me studying for the test might have had something to do with it too. Or maybe, was the real reason I aced the test was because the teacher wore a tie that matched his shirt, and studying had nothing to do with it!? confused.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-09-17 at 00:23:50
im neuteral cuz i have met wat i thought 2 b a ghost but i have no proof


for example i left a paper out in a black room

1 hr, had weird markings
2 hrs, had the letter y
3 hrs had y then w then d
4 hrs it had YOU WILL DIE and i doubt sum1 would stay there 4 four hours
Report, edit, etc...Posted by €Hawk€ on 2004-09-18 at 15:15:38
I don't believe in ghosts. I think they are just your imagination.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-09-18 at 15:52:42
My old neighbors house had a poltregeist in it, though i still think that ghosts are demons tryign to fool you into thinking that ghosts r real, once you die you go to heaven or hell. but the "poltergeist" was an indian and really liked the railroads on monopoly. He pushes you donw the stairs and if you suddenly awake, you sumtimes see him looking over u... thats wat my frineds told me... my mom saw a light the night my pop pop died goin down the hall. It wasnt my dad nor my sister or me. Just an idea...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by €Hawk€ on 2004-09-19 at 18:20:00
Now that I remember, I have had a few scary expiriences. When I was 10 years old, I woke up(in the middle of the night) to see a white figure standing at my door. Then when my eyes adjusted, it was just my closet light reflecting off my door. When it first happened, I was freaked out 100% scared.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-09-19 at 18:23:52
Ghosts are just a praradotical image that your mind makes because you were afraid. Thus making your brain the real ghost and not the physical world or the spiritual one.

I tried to sound smart,,,
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