Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-10-20 at 15:33:19
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Maybe DL it wacko.gif
I did when you put the original post up. How would I know that it was worth looking at if I hadn't seen it before?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-10-20 at 15:54:43
QUOTE(in_a_biskit @ Oct 19 2005, 11:16 PM)
*Biskits really long post*
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Thank you, hopefully many other people who want to use them will see that. If they wan tto use other editors they should just not enter the tournment and do something else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-10-20 at 18:58:58
QUOTE(GgG-PlayaR. @ Oct 19 2005, 04:32 PM)
probably over half of it were like all the color related spam stuff....
all because of The_effect and UBCS
suprising how 2 guyz caused over 200 useless posts
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all because of The_effect and UBCS
suprising how 2 guyz caused over 200 useless posts
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It would have died out alot sooner if i didn't say anything about the use of alt functions. like half the posts of colors are alt functions. I apologize
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AFL-InuYasha on 2005-10-20 at 22:01:14
well, i simplified the triggers, and made them ea enuf to just use basic keyboard storkes, alt, tab and the like
well it took a while, but i finished, im just testing map with my friend to make sur ot works properly, unless starcraft itself is considered a third-party program due to the fact that it can test a map while staredit can't but im sur starcraft is aloud, rite
well it took a while, but i finished, im just testing map with my friend to make sur ot works properly, unless starcraft itself is considered a third-party program due to the fact that it can test a map while staredit can't but im sur starcraft is aloud, rite
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-10-21 at 11:18:47
You don't have to ask stupid questions. And you don't have to use simple triggers, they just have to be made on staredit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AFL-InuYasha on 2005-10-22 at 17:34:53
well wat ui meant, is i made the triggers a bit beter organized, so all i ned to do is keep perssing a pattern on the keyboard and it would change everything i needed to
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DI- on 2005-10-23 at 17:23:37
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I just want to make a comment for all those who want to use third-party programs of any sort:
If you do use any third party program to do anything that could normally be done in StarEdit (eg use SCMDraft2 or StarForge to write triggers in text), I very highly doubt that the judges could detect it (assuming that it actually can be done in StarEdit). If you load allowable triggers from another map, or use a program like trigger duplicator, it will be very hard for the judges to prove that you did it.
However, keep in mind that the spirit of the competition is to have to work around the limitations of StarEdit in the way that mapmakers learnt to before other programs such as SCMDraft and trigger duplicator came out. Some people bit the bullet and made all their repetitive triggers one by one. Others avoided the most complex/repetitive trigger systems and made maps around other ideas. Others still designed simpler trigger systems to achieve the same effects. The idea behind this competition is to give you that same challenge - to make a map on StarEdit, as it was supposed to be released (i.e. without exploiting bugs), to have to think of ways of saving your own effort if you couldn't be bothered to do something or other.
If you're really annoyed about not being able to do something relatively minor - such as preplacing units of different races for the same player, or placing map revealers over the map for different players - you have a few things to think about. Will you do it 'by hand'? Will you have to do it the long way? Can you discover a better, more efficient way to do what you want to do? Finally, if you think that you really, really need some other editor to make your dream map - maybe your idea doesn't quite fit this competition. That doesn't mean that it's a bad idea - it just means that there are other ideas which are probably better suited to this competition. Before you even start making your map, you should think about whether it fits this competition or not - if its not for this competition, but you still want to enter, you should think of another idea.
If you do use any third party program to do anything that could normally be done in StarEdit (eg use SCMDraft2 or StarForge to write triggers in text), I very highly doubt that the judges could detect it (assuming that it actually can be done in StarEdit). If you load allowable triggers from another map, or use a program like trigger duplicator, it will be very hard for the judges to prove that you did it.
However, keep in mind that the spirit of the competition is to have to work around the limitations of StarEdit in the way that mapmakers learnt to before other programs such as SCMDraft and trigger duplicator came out. Some people bit the bullet and made all their repetitive triggers one by one. Others avoided the most complex/repetitive trigger systems and made maps around other ideas. Others still designed simpler trigger systems to achieve the same effects. The idea behind this competition is to give you that same challenge - to make a map on StarEdit, as it was supposed to be released (i.e. without exploiting bugs), to have to think of ways of saving your own effort if you couldn't be bothered to do something or other.
If you're really annoyed about not being able to do something relatively minor - such as preplacing units of different races for the same player, or placing map revealers over the map for different players - you have a few things to think about. Will you do it 'by hand'? Will you have to do it the long way? Can you discover a better, more efficient way to do what you want to do? Finally, if you think that you really, really need some other editor to make your dream map - maybe your idea doesn't quite fit this competition. That doesn't mean that it's a bad idea - it just means that there are other ideas which are probably better suited to this competition. Before you even start making your map, you should think about whether it fits this competition or not - if its not for this competition, but you still want to enter, you should think of another idea.
Agreed. Modifications just make maps better. The goal is to see who can make the best plain map. What are the chances of winning this tournament? 1 in how many?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-10-23 at 18:11:32
QUOTE(DI- @ Oct 23 2005, 05:23 PM)
Agreed. Modifications just make maps better. The goal is to see who can make the best plain map. What are the chances of winning this tournament? 1 in how many?
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1 in 27.
Chances increase if your map is good, decrease if your map is bad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-10-23 at 18:58:27
That was an awsome come back for a stupidly obvious question.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by InfestedScag on 2005-10-24 at 01:16:58
chances of wining might increase if people don't finish their maps soon =)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PlayaR on 2005-10-24 at 14:51:43
QUOTE(InfestedScag @ Oct 24 2005, 01:16 AM)
chances of wining might increase if people don't finish their maps soon =)
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they still got alot of time....
which is about 18 days (including today)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-10-24 at 15:13:20
I might have to submit something which I made a little while ago. It has coloured text though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PlayaR on 2005-10-24 at 16:46:12
QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Oct 24 2005, 03:13 PM)
I might have to submit something which I made a little while ago. It has coloured text though.
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then take out the colored text and submit it lol
unless of course you locked it
then you cant submit it at all lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-10-24 at 17:46:12
It had to have been started after the contest started as well.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-10-24 at 18:06:27
Actually, no it doesn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-10-24 at 18:12:34
I thought it used to say that. -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PlayaR on 2005-10-24 at 18:42:43
QUOTE(PCFredZ @ Oct 24 2005, 06:12 PM)
I thought it used to say that. -_-
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no...but me and dead got up an arguement about that and he said that it HAS to have been started after the tournament began lol and look how wrong he is
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-10-24 at 18:53:25
You judging anything was a stretch if you ask me Playar.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-10-24 at 19:38:58
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Oct 24 2005, 02:53 PM)
You judging anything was a stretch if you ask me Playar.
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Yeah but at least he keeps DEAD from being the czar in this tournament.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PlayaR on 2005-10-24 at 20:09:56
QUOTE(Veritaserum @ Oct 24 2005, 07:38 PM)
Yeah but at least he keeps DEAD from being the czar in this tournament.
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lol czaz? what wat did i do to keep DEAD from being whatever?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-10-24 at 21:06:20
QUOTE(PlayaR @ Oct 24 2005, 04:42 PM)
no...but me and dead got up an arguement about that and he said that it HAS to have been started after the tournament began lol and look how wrong he is
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No I said it didn't have to be started afterwards.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-10-24 at 22:09:05
QUOTE(PlayaR @ Oct 24 2005, 04:09 PM)
lol czaz? what wat did i do to keep DEAD from being whatever?
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a CZAR. Like an almighty king. By arguing with him about the rules you kept him from being the supreme commander of this contest.
ADDITION:
It was just a joke anyways...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AFL-InuYasha on 2005-10-24 at 22:34:06
wow, rules change so much in this contest its funny
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-10-25 at 17:35:32
The only thing that's ever changed is my stance on colour tags.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AFL-InuYasha on 2005-10-25 at 21:01:42
well alot of rules are unclear, ill puit it that way