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Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-03-13 at 13:36:57
Hmmm... i'mma join this interesting conversation now... pretty late...

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Hell, but if 'God' tell you to except anyone as who they are, why is he asking you to change them?
That's totally illogical... even is God does exists it makes no sense.

He means that we shouldn't deride or look down upon people. But then he want's us to convert the non believers. One deals with personality/character, the other deals with the religious beliefs. Those are two unrelated things that aren't even close to belieing each other so it is perfectly logical.

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The problem with doing that on religion and not on chocolate is that religion is a type of chocolate that is being eaten from ever since and only lately people found out it's infections.

Well, u mind telling me (us) what "infections?" Cuz i find nothing wrong with religion.

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Atheists use Biblical references to:
A: Illustrate a point in a sarcastic way.
B: Expose the inaccuracies of the Bible.

A: Because they can't use their own reliable sources to corroborate their arguments.
B: Yea, they try and expose word usage discrepancies which are actually synonyms.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-03-13 at 13:44:42
Judge a person by who they are but not what they do? Hmm... doesn't an observation of one's activities show who they are? I'm not saying this derails religion and proves there is no God, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense, you can't know what a person is like without studying their actions. Talking happens to be an action, you know. *Gasp!* Besides, alot of the branches of Christianity have rules judging people on their actions. I've decided I'm not going to get into those long and pointless arguments over who's beliefs are right, (not that Ive been in many), I mean, if it doesn't hurt you and doesn't hurt anyone else, go for it. You're never going to change someone's fundamental beliefs with a rant.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-13 at 14:00:29
Yes thank you Army for clearing that up. That is exactly what I meant. And TheoreticalHuman, actions sometimes show who someone is, but not much. I can type something hateful right now does it mean I am a sinner and am going to burn? Hmm I think not. And yes you can know what somebody is like based on there emotions instead of there actions. For instance, if you saw a celebrity and he/she was cussing at paparazzi, does that means when they go home they cuss at there children or managers? I do not think so. However, if you listened to there feelings about God and tried to understand where they are coming from, you would understand them much better.(gosh I hate using celebrities for religious conversations) I bet you anything a few people are going to comment on the celebrity comments. pinch.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-03-13 at 14:09:29
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Judge a person by who they are but not what they do? Hmm... doesn't an observation of one's activities show who they are? I'm not saying this derails religion and proves there is no God, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense, you can't know what a person is like without studying their actions. Talking happens to be an action, you know. *Gasp!* Besides, alot of the branches of Christianity have rules judging people on their actions. I've decided I'm not going to get into those long and pointless arguments over who's beliefs are right, (not that Ive been in many), I mean, if it doesn't hurt you and doesn't hurt anyone else, go for it. You're never going to change someone's fundamental beliefs with a rant.
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Indecisiveman was saying judge a person by their souls, not who they are. Judge a person by their religious relationship with God, not over personalities and actions. It's not up to US to judge them, but for God to do so.

No one here has ever tried to coerce anyone into believing what they believe. All we've been doing is just giving out our opinions over an extremely controversial issue.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-03-13 at 14:13:18
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Yes thank you Army for clearing that up

Do you always rely on people to post for you? 3/4rths of your posts say, Thank you [Insert Christian] for [Insert message] for me.
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For instance, if you saw a celebrity and he/she was cussing at paparazzi, does that means when they go home they cuss at there children or managers? I do not think so.

There is a difference, YOU wouldn't be "Acting".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-03-13 at 14:17:08
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Do you always rely on people to post for you? 3/4rths of your posts say, Thank you [Insert Christian] for [Insert message] for me.

He's complimenting people, not relying on people to post for him. Now there's no law saying it's illegal is there?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by iamacow on 2005-03-13 at 14:24:10
To me, atheists are just like everyone else. There are always people who make generalizations about some other group, even ones that are so hypocritical like "Atheists always make generalizations about christians."

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Why don't scientists create a machine that speeds up time or something and put a germ in it and see that mutate into a human. They can't cuz they can't prove Christianity wrong.

I'm sorry, I didn't know that technology that can speed up time was available now, or within the near future, or that it was even possible. The germ into human thing has already been talked about. I just despise this quote and your idea that it is somehow a decent argument against evolution, why doesn't god or some other holy figure come down to a large group of credible people and create a living thing out of thin air, or however one would do that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-13 at 14:32:30
JetBlast what the hell are you talking about? The whole point to what I said was judging people's actions doesn't tell us who they are. So of course I wouldn't be acting. And no, I don't rely on people to post for me. I a lot of times say things I think other people should understand(like the celebrity comment) and they don't get it. So when people put it in other words they understand. That is why I thank them. You seriously need to get off my back and listen to what am saying(or read don't be dumb). Gosh you made me so angry I forgot what I was going to say...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-03-13 at 14:34:37
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You seriously need to get off my back and listen to what am saying

I am listening to what you AM saying, and honestly, it makes less sense than my posts and someone needs to make up some words and pretend that was what your post meant.

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Gosh you made me so angry I forgot what I was going to say...

Gosh you made me so angry I got gas.




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If anybody feels he is off-topic and making no sense, please reply back.

THATS off topic itself, that's why there is an edit button.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-13 at 14:37:51
If anybody feels he is off-topic and making no sense, please reply back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-13 at 14:45:28
Stop Flaming.


This was a very intelligent discussion for quite a while, and I'm sure it can open again. Send me a pm if you ever want to see it open.

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