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Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-03-23 at 08:52:48
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Mar 22 2005, 09:06 PM)
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I also think that <a href="#A section of the post">Go to Top of Post</a> Would be sueful especially for Tutorials. This is Navigating within a Webapage in this case it's post.

Um? For tutorials there is a go to the top of the page link, if that's what you're referring to?
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I was meaning somethign like this.

Random Text
<a name="Important Paragraph">Important Paragraph</a>
Some paragraph goes here explaining how to do something

More lines and explanations

More triggers.

Some text and it says in one part as explained <a href="#IMportant paragraph">Here</a>

More Text
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-23 at 08:56:04
QUOTE(in_a_biskit @ Mar 23 2005, 06:54 AM)
I say that less is more.  Faster loading times and simpler ideas, rather than cluttering up the whole site with fancy junk.
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That is already going to be done. Unnecessary code will be removed, images are compressed MAJORLY, and you have the option of disabling the shoutbox.

QUOTE(Clokr_ @ Mar 23 2005, 08:09 AM)
Fix my dling problem, that's all that I suggest >.<
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Actually, I have an idea to fix your problem. You see, it checks the referer for leeching protection. I could have it so members don't have to undergo this process, and instead they have to do a security key validation (its a new technique developed by me... for every session you make you have a impossible to predict 5 random character security key, which is checked in important areas so people cant just link anymore.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-03-23 at 10:06:34
I heard IP say there will be no glow effects, Is this true?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2005-03-23 at 10:31:02
Well, it would seem that, once again, the Search feature is SEN's best kept secret...
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Mar 22 2005, 08:48 PM)
There will be no glow effects because it's pure IE add-on code.
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QUOTE(Oo.HydrA.oO @ Mar 23 2005, 07:06 AM)
I heard IP say there will be no glow effects, Is this true?
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The reason is there will be no glow, is because it doesn't show up in Netscape or Firefox. It only shows up in IE.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-03-23 at 11:11:21
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Mar 23 2005, 03:29 AM)
Already planned.

Come on people, you're not bringing anything new to the table happy.gif.

What would make sen better?
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Use a system with a formula for respectability or w/e any system regardless of design that relis on one factor is doomed. Did you see that IP?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-03-23 at 13:27:18
QUOTE(SA_Max71 @ Mar 23 2005, 09:31 AM)
Well, it would seem that, once again, the Search feature is SEN's best kept secret...
The reason is there will be no glow, is because it doesn't show up in Netscape or Firefox. It only shows up in IE.
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Yeah but a lot of people still do have "IE" and I for one think it looks awsome, Would it hurt to keep the glowing effect?

Because I'm sure a lot of people would agree thats its a nice addition to these forums.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-03-23 at 14:16:41
Having Glowing Effects

Advantages:
-It looks good

Disadvantages:
-Doesn't show in any other Browser other than IE 6
-Additional coding needs to be done

Not Having Glowing Effects

Advantages:
-Faster Loading Times
-Less bandwith/space on server
-Clan tags will be much more visible

Disadvantages:
-None

*Note that these advantages/disadvantages are only technical and not in relation to it being an item at the store for which you pay for.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-03-23 at 14:31:58
I tend to agree, with no glowy effects, they arent that special are they?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-23 at 17:41:21
Beer, you are actually incorrect with all of your statements.

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-Faster Loading Times
-Less bandwith/space on server
-Clan tags will be much more visible
-Doesn't show in any other Browser other than IE 6
-Additional coding needs to be done

-It is actually no faster or slower. Maybe IE takes 0.00001 seconds more to apply it, but you really think thats faster?
-Your second point takes up more space and bandwidth then member name colors do.
-And clan tags are no different with or without member name colors.
- We might make a member name background, which is viewable in all browsers. I still need to take it up with IP.
- "Addidional coding needs to be done"? Since when do you decide what needs additional coding? And what needs additional coding anyways?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-03-23 at 17:44:30
I bet it's possible to write a php script that takes a color and makes a glow effect (perhaps a recursive emboss filter) using php image functions and then saves it as a dynamic image.
Something I'm not willing to attempt happy.gif.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-03-23 at 17:49:27
1)Glowing Names took like 1 second more than without the glows.

I would see first all the non-glowing names and then like 1 second after the glowing ones would appear.
2)I know, the quotes are just one bit of code like <font color="FFFFFF">text</font> thats all it is.
3)DOH! The glow wouldn't apply to clan tags.
4)And that has to do with Glows in which way?
5)Everything in a website is a code and the both of us know it.
I believe everything is being re-coded so that means you would need to create the code for the Glow, the Store Item and stuff like that. It isn't much but there is code in there.

I didn't decide anythign, I just said some small coding would need to be implemented.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2005-03-23 at 17:55:25
I'm for the glow. What ever happened to the Glow BB code thing?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-23 at 18:00:20
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG @ Mar 23 2005, 05:49 PM)
1)Glowing Names took like 1 second more than without the glows.

I would see first all the non-glowing names and then like 1 second after the glowing ones would appear.
2)I know, the quotes are just one bit of code like <font color="FFFFFF">text</font> thats all it is.
3)DOH! The glow wouldn't apply to clan tags.
4)And that has to do with Glows in which way?
5)Everything in a website is a code and the both of us know it.
I believe everything is being re-coded so that means you would need to create the code for the Glow, the Store Item and stuff like that. It isn't much but there is code in there.
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1.) that is done AFTER the page is loaded, so it doesn't do anything to your viewing experience.
2.) The colors in the database will be 6 characters. Thats it.
3.) No kidding!
4.) The fact that it will now be crossbrowser compatible.
5.) But im in no hurry to finish it. It will take as long as it will take.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2005-03-23 at 18:06:44
So are glows in or what?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-23 at 18:11:19
If plan to go through with some sort of store bought thing like that, it will most likely be a solid background, not a glow.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by in_a_biskit on 2005-03-24 at 08:07:04
I have a suggestion not related to glow effects:

The tutorials DB should have a section for general knowledge concerning staredit and starcraft, because there are too many people who don't understand the more conceptual ideas that aren't actually special effects in maps. There should be articles on general things like "How switches work", or "How wait actions work".
It would be like a supplement to the staredit help file.

I also noticed that the submission form for tutorials doesn't have the nice buttons for inserting BBcode tags like you do when you're replying. Those would make it easier to submit tutorials.
It would also be nice to cross-link all the tutorials upon their submission - the first time the phrase "hypertrigger" is mentioned in a tutorial, it is automatically linked to the tutorial on hypers, and similarly for other major topics.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-03-24 at 08:29:54
Hmmm... cross linking would be sexy, although, not exactly sure how it would be done... a keyword dictionary table I suppose... I'll consider it.

The bbcode thing is because I never cared to find out where and how to implement it in a new script, I figured anyone l33t enough to make a tutorial wouldn't need little buttons. Like, I never use them, but then again, I'm so used to writing out html and such it's super natural. Anyways! All post-like inputs would be just be a simple class call where they'll all be from one central source, so, it'll be done. However, I'm not exactly sure if I can pull off all the little things invision does like "Open Tags: x" or "close all tags" and such, we'll see.

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The tutorials DB should have a section for general knowledge concerning staredit and starcraft, because there are too many people who don't understand the more conceptual ideas that aren't actually special effects in maps. There should be articles on general things like "How switches work", or "How wait actions work".
It would be like a supplement to the staredit help file.

No idea, I'm not too big of a mapper. I listen to what my tutorial managers have to say. If they want a new catagory, I make it for them. If they want a new feature type thingy, they have to say so because THEY will be the ones managing it. In my next script, it'll be completely self managed so the manager's can make catagories and such and do as they please. It'll probably be even starcraft 2-ready for the hell of it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-24 at 17:09:26
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No idea, I'm not too big of a mapper. I listen to what my tutorial managers have to say. If they want a new catagory, I make it for them. If they want a new feature type thingy, they have to say so because THEY will be the ones managing it. In my next script, it'll be completely self managed so the manager's can make catagories and such and do as they please. It'll probably be even starcraft 2-ready for the hell of it.
We used to have it before and it was helpful, looks like you got rid of it upon replacing my content system tongue.gif I'm up for it.

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I also noticed that the submission form for tutorials doesn't have the nice buttons for inserting BBcode tags like you do when you're replying. Those would make it easier to submit tutorials.
We're making the post box, file submittion box, tutorial submittion box, sig box, PM box and so on ALL share the same html code in a php file, so we can change BB codes and stuff with it effecting everything globally.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-03-24 at 18:27:38
So...like...an iframe?
*RexyRex is confused.

Hm...what else to suggest...
I just looked at the page and found "Time is now: 24th March 2005 - 03:15 PM"
That's useless. Sure it's just $date = date(dS F Y - g:iA); echo("Time is now: ".$date);, but then again that's something you can garuntee almost NO ONE will EVER use.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-24 at 18:57:49
I use it to quickly look at the time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-03-24 at 18:59:59
Here is the place to see the time tongue.gif:
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-24 at 19:07:21
I meant the board time, to see if I configured it right.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-03-25 at 01:41:32
What about a wikipedia sandbox?
nvm: that would be pretty worthless now that I think of it. disgust.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-03-25 at 02:22:14
QUOTE(Rantent @ Mar 24 2005, 11:41 PM)
What about a wikipedia sandbox?
nvm: that would be pretty worthless now that I think of it. disgust.gif
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What the hell is that? crazy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2005-03-25 at 04:40:24
QUOTE(IP)
probably be even starcraft 2-ready for the hell of it.


According to a friend, starcraft 1 won't be compatible with Windows: Longhorn. Longhorn is the next generation of windows. (Yay, the security holes will jump from 10,000, to 1,000,000,000 !)
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