QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 8 2005, 02:49 AM)
Of course not, Al-Qaeda already claimed responsibility.
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Wait... Maybe they did so they like do a terrorist attack for free? It's possible...
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omfg censored.gif ing terrorists first in america now london i will own those bitches one day. i hope your reading this osama! i will censored.gif ing own you!
Yes im sure, osama loves playing starcraft and loves coming to SEN to visit us.
Ahh well, I cant quote well =/
But I find that hella funny
back on topic:
The could be claiming responsibilty as a cover up for another organization.
They may of never ever bombed a city in their lives.
They probably do this so we cant find the real peopel behind this cause we are to
CONSTIPATED over them

Why else would the most commonly known terrorist group claim to be behind this? It is called terrorism for a reason. They wish to be feared by people and claiming to be behind this will only further peoples fear of of them. This may not be true for most people, Al Qaeda may have bombed london, this is just my opinion on the matter.
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Im glad your ok tazzy even though I've never spoken to you. And my sympathies for those who were involved in this.
i was about one miniute walk away from the 30 that blew up i ran up the road to see what happend and i saw the mangled bus..

ing disgusting
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Jul 7 2005, 05:30 PM)
I don't consider this or 9/11 terrorism... I consider it self-defense.
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in moron
QUOTE(SI @ Jul 8 2005, 03:37 PM)

in moron
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1. You did not support your theory with any proof or facts
2. You talked like a n00b
3. You called an admin a F*ckin moron.
A) We are currently in Iraq helping them with their goverment
B) There are people in Iraq that support the U.S.
C) Who says the terrorists are soley in Iraq?
D) What kind of reaction would the U.S. get from the World if we bombed Iraq off the map? How many allies would we loose?
QUOTE(warhammer40000 @ Jul 8 2005, 02:40 PM)
1. You did not support your theory with any proof or facts
2. You talked like a n00b
3. You called an admin a F*ckin moron.
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1: My theory? This is my subjective view of the matter, not a scientific theory.
2: I will damn well talk any bloody way I want to, because I do not care how you perceive it
3: Tell me something I didn't know
QUOTE(i-beat-u @ Jul 8 2005, 02:43 PM)
cant we just bomb iraq off the map and solve everything???

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in moron
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QUOTE(yeow @ Jul 8 2005, 02:58 PM)
A) We are currently in Iraq helping them with their goverment
B) There are people in Iraq that support the U.S.
C) Who says the terrorists are soley in Iraq?
D) What kind of reaction would the U.S. get from the World if we bombed Iraq off the map? How many allies would we loose?
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Finally someone with some sense and who doesn't have their head stuck in the sand

terrorists?

Bush!
Terrorists just don't go randomly blowing shit up for no reason. Analyze the implications of that.
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I don't consider this or 9/11 terrorism... I consider it self-defense.

in moron
So we go into Iraq... blow the shit out of everything, and not expect some retailation?
It's like a female way of thinking...
No, you can't talk to other girls at work...
*next week*
But you can't bitch at me when I go over to other guy's houses, you jealous asshole.
It's just like... that hyprocritical.
This is going over the edge. This topic was intended to mourn the people who died for no reason. Not for you people to focus on the terrorists, which is exactly what they want. Attention. And you're giving it to them.
Shame on you all.
I'm locking this because its gone way past what I orginally intended. You can go discuss your terrorism issues in the serious forum.
Edit: IP: *giggle*
It's like impossible just to take a discussion to another thread. Just move this to serious discussion then.
Well, it's all on the same subject yoshi, I don't want to get into a heated arguement, but I honestly don't think you can blame the attacks IN ENGLAND on bush.
As far as "mourning" those who die...
I don't see a topic everytime someone gets raped and killed, or simply killed, or anything. Why be sympathetic now?
Topic has been split. You may continue, though.
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Topic has been split. You may continue, though.
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Jul 8 2005, 02:28 PM)
As far as "mourning" those who die...
I don't see a topic everytime someone gets raped and killed, or simply killed, or anything. Why be sympathetic now?
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Last I checked, you have authority to do that type of thing, IP.
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Why would they claim responsibility if they didn't do it?
I heard about artists who'd do this, long ago, like DaVinci and such. If someone dropped by with a painting and say "hey, is this yours?" the artist would say yes if he liked it. That's how bad copyrights were on artwork. So, since there is no way to say THIS ATTACK COPYRIGHT AL QAEDA they can pretend whatever they want.
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As far as "mourning" those who die...
I don't see a topic everytime someone gets raped and killed, or simply killed, or anything. Why be sympathetic now?
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I don't see something like this happening a lot either, and being broadcasted on the news too

The first time I saw this on the news they said that it might be a homegrown attack like how they found out the one in Madrid was, like an attack planned from terrorists within the country.
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Not for you people to focus on the terrorists, which is exactly what they want. Attention. And you're giving it to them.
It's better then giving the government's what it wants... mindlessness controlled by the media.
As if terrorists are actually reading this topic are all like: "Hey, staredit.net members are giving us attention. Um, yay!"
I'm actually giving them what they really want: A perspective that isn't clouded by money, oil, prejudice, "democracy", "christianity."
Seriously, they want to be left alone. Let's stop

ing them in the ass. They'll stop blowing our shit up. Let's stop spending billions of dollars in foreign aid that is highly misplaced and useless. Let's stop supporting a country we forced into the middle east by giving them weapons. Let's stop thinking we control the world.
I never did like Television Media. Always shows the bad stuff, never the good stuff. :/
Do terrorists even have a fair plan for how to rule the country if we actually just left them and just said here do whatever you want with the country.
IP, I really can't take this "They don't want our help" seriously, since you know...you've never been over there, and as you pointed out, being a zombie controlled by the medii is bad, so why should I believe all I see on TV? What about the good that's happening over there, eh? Have you forgotten that?
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Why would they claim responsibility if they didn't do it?
I heard about artists who'd do this, long ago, like DaVinci and such. If someone dropped by with a painting and say "hey, is this yours?" the artist would say yes if he liked it. That's how bad copyrights were on artwork. So, since there is no way to say THIS ATTACK COPYRIGHT AL QAEDA they can pretend whatever they want.
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I still highly doubt that they would "take credit" for this if it wasn't even them.
Isolated, I get the feeling you don't like Bush, however, if kerry was in office, he would have yanked the troops out of the middle east, making us look week and susceptible to a bombing or whatever. Kerry wanted to give more money to iraq just like your everyday democrat.
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IP, I really can't take this "They don't want our help" seriously, since you know...you've never been over there, and as you pointed out, being a zombie controlled by the medii is bad, so why should I believe all I see on TV? What about the good that's happening over there, eh? Have you forgotten that?
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Of course there are good things going on over there. I'm not sure if you remember this, but we recently captured Saddam Hussein, one of the biggest terrorist this world has ever seen. Of course, the media covered that up pretty fast, we don't even hear about him anymore. Iraq has moved much closer to a free country, which these terrorists don't want to see because free countries don't put up with this terrorist shit.
He would have yanked the troops out? What the Hell are you smoking? You believe that Republican propaganda! You also probably believed that he wanted to ban guns.
Isolated has made a point that we don't control the world. The United States of America is not currently set up for running the globe. Perhaps some day there will be a global nation, but it's not today and it won't be anytime soon. However, I think he's been nothing but cold and callous towards, well, just about everyone recently.
The "terrorists" are just trying to protect their old ways. People, as a whole, hate change that affects them. If it affects someone else they couldn't care less, but when they're involved boy do they kick and scream the whole way. All of the lovable groups of the world - Jews, Christians, Middle-Easterners, etc. - have gone through these phases. It happens in America on a much smaller scale everyday. Still, if we were to let a backwards people stay backwards, we would be failing as productive citizens of society. Democracy is obviously the "best" form of government, although it ultimately fails to meet the standard of excellence everyone wants because, well, people are just too stupid. America proved this last time and the time before that.
However, a dictatorship is just too risky. It takes only one bad apple to turn a good dictatorship into a Hellish one, as proven by Hitler, Stalin (oh he was enough of a dictator), and a whole host of others. I think the global consensus is that it's better to have stupid people in power rather than smart but evil people. At least if they're still evil, the stupid people will not be intelligent enough to threaten the world. A good dictatorship would be, in my opinion, the best form of government as that dictator would be smart and have benevolent intentions. Even in a good democracy, people tend to argue and hang up decision making sometimes for very long periods of time.
So, back to terrorism. A few things have attributed to this newest form of it (oh there have been "terrorists" as long as history stretches back). Firstly, we're trying to force them to change. Even as it's ultimately for the better, they fight back against it. This is totally normal. Secondly, we invaded them, and more than a few are ticked off about it. If the United States were to be invaded, say, tomorrow, would you sit at home and continue to play StarCraft? Thirdly, and most importantly, the wrong people are in power of these groups. Osama, al-Zalqarwi (or however it's spelled), etc. are stupid and sinister. Unfortunately for us, our leaders are yet more stupid. Combined with their clever twisting of their religion, which they believe as vehemently as the pseudo-Christians plaguing this site believe their's, it all comes out as retaliation against us.
But, this has all served as nothing more than a catalyst for their form of fighting. Why they fight is listed above. This is why they fight as they do. Think about it. We are this massive, unstoppable entity that can strike out at anyplace on the globe within hours with a gut-wrenching fury that will shake even the most stout-hearted. There is no way that they could ever possibly, theoretically, even in a dream defeat us in open and straight combat. Thus the use of guerilla and terroristic tactics. It makes our job a hundred times more difficult, and while it turns the general populace against them, it is the only realistic way that they can lash out against us. We have better training, advanced technology, and the sheer force of America behind us. Left to them are the weapons of cunning subterfuge and deceit.
Holy smokes, did I write all that?
QUOTE(yeow @ Jul 8 2005, 01:58 PM)
D) What kind of reaction would the U.S. get from the World if we bombed Iraq off the map? How many allies would we loose?
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We woulden't lose allie's, We would gain allies. If we bombes a country off the map, Do you think they would want to be enemys with us?
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We woulden't lose allie's, We would gain allies. If we bombes a country off the map, Do you think they would want to be enemys with us?
Sounds like terrorism to me; bombing a country out of existence.