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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-10-31 at 17:19:50
I'd just like to point out that just because I don't beleive in God, I do beleive in an afterlife.
That's stereotypist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-10-31 at 20:07:05
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It is for this reason we add leap years.
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Just noticed this, the whole accelerated time thing isn't the reason for leap years, the uneven rotation around the sun (lagged years.) Are the reason for this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-11-01 at 16:45:10
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Just noticed this, the whole accelerated time thing isn't the reason for leap years, the uneven rotation around the sun (lagged years.) Are the reason for this.


Well, it's not like the Earth goes around in an actual circle, it's more like an ellipse (oval for those who don't know). I guess it's a bit of both. Measurements aren't 100% accurate after all. It's not like someone has gone and put up a 9000mile long rope on the orbital path of the earth.

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I'd just like to point out that just because I don't beleive in God, I do beleive in an afterlife.
That's stereotypist.


You don't have to be a Chrstian to believe in an afterlife. No one has said that so far. This is essentially what you are accusing us of saying, that everyone who is an Atheist doesn't believe in an afterlife, and that Christians do. Not true, most of the religions embrace an afterlife, becuase it explains where we go after this. Atheists don't necessarily HAVE to believe in an afterlife, and if they do, then that is the individual's choice.

Just because I don't like the Communists doesn't mean I'm a Fascist.
Just because a black man starts running down a hill doesn't mean I think it's a jailbreak.
Just because I'm Vietnamese doesn't mean I pick rice all day.
Just because I'm Buddhist doesn't mean I don't recognize the possibility of a supernatural diety.
Think of another one, and that's what you are doing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-11-01 at 20:48:18
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I believe that The Bible should be moved to the fiction section in Barnes & Noble  ... I think it's basically like most of the other people have said a collection of stories, stories always get sort of muddled and in the olden days people had less to believe in so they made up things to believe in... It's sort of like what children do..


And yet was never proven wrong.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-11-01 at 20:57:42
But to rebut against you, one must say, "But have you proven it right?"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-11-01 at 21:00:35
4/5 Although it's a very quotable book, I think God was a little excessive with the length. Some of his other work (the Universe, Breasts, and cheesecake), is preferable. Still, this was written pretty early in his career, so we should all cut him some slack. I can't wait for the sequel, (which is rumored to be called The Second Coming of Christ).

Thank you for wasting your time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-11-01 at 21:34:11
You tell me. What's the point of proving it right. Let's say it IS proven true. Yay! Everybody goes to heaven! Yay, no point in life anymore. No more life.

See? Faith = Trust = Don't know 100% and it's CHOICE. It says in the Bible some will go to heaven. Not all. The chosen ones, the ones who believe. Nothing proven wrong yet!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by brutetal on 2005-11-02 at 00:27:14
QUOTE(Neiji @ Nov 1 2005, 07:34 PM)
You tell me. What's the point of proving it right. Let's say it IS proven true. Yay! Everybody goes to heaven! Yay, no point in life anymore. No more life.

See? Faith = Trust = Don't know 100% and it's CHOICE. It says in the Bible some will go to heaven. Not all. The chosen ones, the ones who believe. Nothing proven wrong yet!
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Ya the ones who believe will live and those who don't shall perish. I think we all heard that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Killa_04 on 2005-11-02 at 01:47:32
The bible is sometimes historicaly correct occasionaly but obviously a lot of its bs. Such as Moses spreading the sea apart. I personaly think the simpsons version is probably more accurate where milhouse flushed all the toilets. I don't really believe in any relidgon although my mom is kinda christian. Science can't explain everything but relidgon as far as I can see can't really explain anything. drunk.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-11-02 at 13:19:01
QUOTE(Neiji @ Nov 1 2005, 09:34 PM)
You tell me. What's the point of proving it right. Let's say it IS proven true. Yay! Everybody goes to heaven! Yay, no point in life anymore. No more life.

See? Faith = Trust = Don't know 100% and it's CHOICE. It says in the Bible some will go to heaven. Not all. The chosen ones, the ones who believe. Nothing proven wrong yet!
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If there is a God, it's not stupid enough to send people to hell JUST because they didn't believe there was a God. It'll base it's judgement on much better factors.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-11-02 at 14:51:44
QUOTE(Neiji @ Nov 1 2005, 10:34 PM)
You tell me. What's the point of proving it right. Let's say it IS proven true. Yay! Everybody goes to heaven! Yay, no point in life anymore. No more life.

See? Faith = Trust = Don't know 100% and it's CHOICE. It says in the Bible some will go to heaven. Not all. The chosen ones, the ones who believe. Nothing proven wrong yet!
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You're argument is hilarious. It strengthens my belief in the flying spaghetti monster according to your logic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-11-02 at 15:20:46
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If there is a God, it's not stupid enough to send people to hell JUST because they didn't believe there was a God. It'll base it's judgement on much better factors.


Well, if you are a puritan, then you can believe that there is a strict elect of those who are predestined to go to Hell and Heaven.

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You tell me. What's the point of proving it right. Let's say it IS proven true. Yay! Everybody goes to heaven! Yay, no point in life anymore. No more life.


Only those who sin so greatly beyond redemption, that they have no remorse (except for the meantally deficient) will go to Hell. Most people go to PURGATORY, the state in which those who sin have them cleaned off by fire. Not that you feel anything, you feel like you are floating around in nothing. (Family Guy is surprisingly accurate about this).

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You're argument is hilarious. It strengthens my belief in the flying spaghetti monster according to your logic.


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See? Faith = Trust = Don't know 100% and it's CHOICE. It says in the Bible some will go to heaven. Not all. The chosen ones, the ones who believe. Nothing proven wrong yet!


LIEK OMG THERES A FYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!? WOWXXORS! I GUESS GODDIDIT!!

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The bible is sometimes historicaly correct occasionaly but obviously a lot of its bs. Such as Moses spreading the sea apart. I personaly think the simpsons version is probably more accurate where milhouse flushed all the toilets. I don't really believe in any relidgon although my mom is kinda christian. Science can't explain everything but relidgon as far as I can see can't really explain anything.


Actually surprisingly enough, there is scientific evidence for much of the book of Exodus. There could have been a blockage that caused the Nile to be red, and such a disaster would cause the other 8 plagues that followed. But the death of the firstborn is... not believeable. But since GODDIDIT!!


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4/5 Although it's a very quotable book, I think God was a little excessive with the length. Some of his other work (the Universe, Breasts, and cheesecake), is preferable. Still, this was written pretty early in his career, so we should all cut him some slack. I can't wait for the sequel, (which is rumored to be called The Second Coming of Christ).

Thank you for wasting your time.


God did not make cheesecake. He made the stuff that we use to make it. If you wanted to use your transitive property, then he made it indirectly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-11-02 at 15:34:16
Thank God the puritans died out. May his will be done.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tmac on 2005-11-02 at 16:18:50
There are probably Puritans out there. Somewhere....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IA-Sky on 2005-11-02 at 16:22:10
i dont read the bible
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-02 at 16:24:36
I don't believe Jesus could ever walk on water, or heal people by touching their heads, or could share like 6 loaves of bread and 7 fishes for about 300 people.
It just isn't logical smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-11-02 at 16:30:54
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If there is a God, it's not stupid enough to send people to hell JUST because they didn't believe there was a God. It'll base it's judgement on much better factors.

As far as I know, Pretty much every religion except for protestant christianity believes that good works and deeds are also required into going to heaven.

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Actually surprisingly enough, there is scientific evidence for much of the book of Exodus. There could have been a blockage that caused the Nile to be red, and such a disaster would cause the other 8 plagues that followed. But the death of the firstborn is... not believeable. But since GODDIDIT!!

They also found evidence about a flood that occured back in Noah's time i think. And on National Geographic, they said that when Moses parted the sea, it could scientifically be explained in the sense that a volcano erupted at the same time, causing the water in the red sea to retract.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-11-02 at 16:38:00
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Ya the ones who believe will live and those who don't shall perish. I think we all heard that.

Ironically, ppl say that you shouldn't take the bible literally, and yet they all think Hell is WORD FOR WORD WHAT THE BIBLE SAID! God doesn't annihilate ppl just cuz they dont' believe in him or "eternal suffering"... It's just separation forever from God.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-11-02 at 18:07:17
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LIEK OMG THERES A FYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!? WOWXXORS! I GUESS GODDIDIT!!


... The flying spaghetti monster IS god, geez.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-11-02 at 18:16:58
You've never heard of FSM?
BLASPHEMY!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-11-02 at 18:28:43
all you guys do is quote other people and say how stupid they are... shouldnt we have a more orginized argument?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-11-02 at 19:42:58
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all you guys do is quote other people and say how stupid they are...  shouldnt we have a more orginized argument?
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That is so stupid. I mean, you're so stupid. We never do that, geez.
JK

We've already been through the whole religious argument more than once. And we havn't resolved anything yet. (Maybe a little bit) If we are to do a real organized religious debate, we'll have to eliminate certain people from the thread. But I don't know how we can do that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-02 at 19:59:43
Since nobody can be right or wrong "THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER" the arguements usually don't end. smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-11-02 at 20:02:17
QUOTE(Deathawk-For-Co-Leader @ Nov 2 2005, 07:59 PM)
Since nobody can be right or wrong "THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER" the arguements usually don't end. smile.gif
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Sort of true. However Someone CAN be right and someone CAN be wrong. It's just that we don't know enough to make a definite answer. And for a topic like this, people feel most comfortable with a definite answer before they pick a side. Then again, if you think about it, they don't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2005-11-02 at 20:27:49
I think God will let all the non-believers go and smite all of the ones who believe the bible because they actually believed in such fairy tails, and he doesn't want stupid people roaming earth. smile.gif
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