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Are you blind? The moment you crack jokes about a religion you become heartless.
And theres enough proof of God if your searching for him and if your OPEN MINDED.

Im sorry that you base all your beliefs off the human body. (sight/smell/touch/etc)

Maybe thats not the case where you live but it truly is where i live.

This thread is about religion in schools, not about proselytizing and how we're all heartless heathens (the HH Brigade).

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Now, if I may introduce something that surprisingly hasn't been mentioned yet:

Intelligent design is merely repackaged creationism.

It's true. That's all it is.

Were we ever trying to disguise it?

Im sorry that you base all your beliefs off the human body. (sight/smell/touch/etc)
You're right. But I hope you're not cracking jokes about FSM. There's enough proof of him everywhere.

Oh, I also hate when people abuse the term "open-minded".

I think that it is important to understand the different religions in the world, thats why I voted for #3. People don't need to take the class if they don't want to but if you are interested in other religions you should be able to have an oportunity to learn about them in school.

Exactly, the more I learn about religion the more I find out how evil it is, and the more I hate it. When I started to read the children's crusades, I wanted to go back in time and slap every preist there. Seriously people, study your religion's past.

I dont think it's religion itself that's evil, but it's the "christians" back in those times whom twisted the Christian ideas wrongly and did all sorts of terribles deed (which eventually begins to ruin christianity's reputation.) IMO religion would be more beneficial than hazardous if done and followed correctly.

The problem being not everybody will follow the rules. There's always going to be those manipulation meanies that use religion as their backup.

only time relgion should be taught in

but most of my teachers always warned us and stuff (one year one kid actually had to miss class like a whole week because he parents didnt want him exposed to christmas learing rofl!!.. i forgot what religion he was tho )

Are you like seven years old? The United States was not "founded" on christianity. Many of the writers and contributors to the Constitution were atheists. This country is not a theocracy and I damn well hope it never will be, and public schools are designed to be secular. I don't intend to pay taxes for someone to learn about Isaac and his fun and exciting adventures in a motherfarking desert.

And you know, many Muslims in this country have lived here for several times your lifespan.

no ban it from schools, as being a Catholic and having to put up with those lame ass stories that ive hears 100 times over its gone beyond the fact of pointless, y teach something that they already know, who wants an example question on a Gr.9 test in my catholic school?

Q: How do your feel about yourself?


^----wth is that honestly, heres my answer.

A: Why the hell do your care?

now lets hear all your answers.

*Votes ban it from schools*

It's unconstitutional. In the constitution, it clearly states, "SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE"

To bad we don't punish for treason anymore. The Educational Boards that have legalized this, would be punished with beheading......

^----agreed

Elective, if people want to know what religions are like from school teachings, I could care less if I don't have it.

You guys do not get it.. It is against what our fore-fathers wanted!

Jesus! American farking history people! We broke off of King James or George (I get the two mixed up) and the Church of England, because the church RULED EVERYTHING!!

Our founding farking fathers made the seperation of church and state for a farking reason: So America would not turn into the thing they farking dispised!

Umm.. No?
America was founded because Parliament sucks.
It had little to do with religion.


I believe we should be taught about a variety of religions (besides the fact that it is illegal). Not for religious purposes, but for the educational value. We would learn much more about other cultures.



(BTW: It was King George III)

That means religion is only a theory.

Religion is BORN to be kept OUT of the school
You cannot make the school teach religion and spread religion throughout the PUBLIC school! JEEZ! maybe it can be used for elective under knowledge of the students, but NO WAY in the world religion is going to be taught in school. Religion teaching often comes in package called "intelligence design" The bills commonly debated state it shall be taught with science to teach the beginning of all life WITHOUT putting in the association with the creator's name. But, unless one is expecting to hear nothing from that class, you cannot teach intelligence design to explain the birth of the world without talking about gods. And because teaching of gods creates unstable and often incorrect ideas in young minds and corrupt their mind with false information (for furthur info on this comment, go to Bible thread). And then again, people wish to teach it with science. Teaching religion with SS is ok, but only under the circumstances of how the religion affected the global society, not how the world is created and moral beliefs. Again, unless the religion is an elective and is under the knowledge of students what this course is teaching and has some kind of restrictions to the idea.

You know there's a difference between teaching Religion and preaching religion right?

Sure it can be taught, such as learning about it. I would love to know about other religions and the lifestyles of those people. I'd also like to know about it's origins and some of their teachings and even how the religion started. I'd like to know the history of the religion.
But preaching it, such as ordering students to follow the religious principles, is out of the question.

[center]I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Freedom of knowledge.
If you want to learn about it, you should be free to do so. The best place to learn something, for most people, is in the school setting.
The key here is: if you WANT to learn it. Meaning, it should be elective.
I feel like I said this a few pages back...[/center]

But the problems faced in school system is if it shall be placed as grad requirement, or elective. I personally think elective and knowledge of the students on what they are thinking is the best choice even if we are going to have class as such. But students choose what classes they might like or not like and give them chances to drop out of the class as soon as they dont like the class.



All I will say to your saying is that they are already taught in history classes and do NOT require for an extra class. Religion is everywhere from church to food. They could attend the church if they wanted to and not in school.

Don't you love Wikipedia?


In History classes, they only briefly skim through the Major religions. Why can't they have a class dedicated to ALL religions? Seeing how there are so many religions out there, I'm sure there's alot to learn if there is a class dedicated to world Religions. Or are you trying to place limits on what people can and can't learn? We might as well purge the Bill of Rights out of our constitution. And Church isn't the place to learn about the backgrounds of religions. It's a place to preach religion.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but they don't "teach" you religion in history class, they explain to you what religion delt with what you're talking about. That is not being taught about religion.

That's what they do when they preach to you when you're small, so they can brainwsh you as a child because that's the easiest way to do it..



Yup, I love Wikipedia, and I laugh at Arbitrary for being that dumb, and saying that our founding fathers were atheists.. That's hillarious!

And in hisoty class, they only tell of the religions name. Not once, do they ever teach you about religion itself, but tell you the history of the civilization, thus explaining what religion they are. They don't teach it in schools, that's what the church is for.

Church is a place to preach and teach.