Well first of all Christianity was what the USA was founded upon. Although we have a freedom of religion it is NOT unconstitutional to teach christianity in schools. I do however think that ONLY teaching christianity and not looking at other views is unconstitutional.
Evolution should not be taught in the schools basically because it is a load of bullcrap. Remember it is only a theory.
Explanations:
First - Very explanatory.
Second - An elective (non-required course) that encompasses many different theories of human existence, from Hinduism to Christianity to Roman theories. Titled "Theories of Human Existence."
Third - A main social studies course (required) that would take a look at many different religions and their changes over time. "World Religions" would be a complementary class to "World Civilizations."
Fourth - Have theories other than evolution concerning human existence taught in the science curriculum.
If you have any questions feel free to ask. I tried to set this up fairly.
Now vote!
Other.
I think that they should have a seperate class for every religion.
Say you are Catholic, the you go in the Catholic religion class.
You should also have the option of not taking a religion class.
But I don't really care I have to go to a Catholic school anyway.
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Nov 10 2005, 10:16 PM)
Well first of all Christianity was what the USA was founded upon. Although we have a freedom of religion it is NOT unconstitutional to teach christianity in schools. I do however think that ONLY teaching christianity and not looking at other views is unconstitutional.
Evolution should not be taught in the schools basically because it is a load of bullcrap. Remember it is only a theory.
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Oh thats Funny, And How does the Bible proove itself More than What we are currently researching about evolution today?
i voted for the third one because they already have a class like that in my school. i think it should be a main course because it's good to learn about other cultures and their religious practices, even if you're like me and don't like organized religion. it helps to understand who you're living with. otherwise, you'll just argue to no end, much like the world today.
Purge every last bit of scripture from the halls of public schools. People can learn about religious history outside of school, and blatantly Christian subject matter has no place in schools. Not all taxpayers are Christians.
(Before anyone goes after me for mentioning Christianity exclusively, keep in mind they're not trying to teach Islam in entire states..)
Shut up. That's not his point, unless ur sum stupid fux. Here's an example of what he's sayin:
Woodwork should be banned from all schools cuz ppl can learn about that outside of school, and it isn't important because the world doesn't really need them. (EXAMPLE)
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Nov 10 2005, 10:16 PM)
Well first of all Christianity was what the USA was founded upon. Although we have a freedom of religion it is NOT unconstitutional to teach christianity in schools. I do however think that ONLY teaching christianity and not looking at other views is unconstitutional.
Evolution should not be taught in the schools basically because it is a load of bullcrap. Remember it is only a theory.
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Evolution is making the inference that certain organisms adapted to survive in new environmental conditions, based on observations in changes among species. How is it a "load of bullcrap?"
QUOTE(Neiji @ Nov 10 2005, 10:55 PM)
Shut up. That's not his point, unless ur sum stupid fux. Here's an example of what he's sayin:
Woodwork should be banned from all schools cuz ppl can learn about that outside of school, and it isn't important because the world doesn't really need them. (EXAMPLE)
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Yes, because woodwork is relevant to whether or not Biblical matters should be taught in public school [/sarcasm]. You can't take this out of context in such a fashion.
Is the manner in which people handle 2x4's in public schools an enormously controversial matter? No.
Things tend towards chaos. Period. That's why evolution doesn't logically work.
I think that Intelligent design should be breifly discussed, from a neutral point of view, and that evolution should be presented as a theory, just as Intelligent Design.
I also think it'd be cool to have a class on World Religions. I'd so take that!
I think it's important to learn about all the major world religions in school. Better to know about them than not to. Leave the whole Creationism vs. Evolution thing at the door, though.
Ignorance is the only real enemy.
Evolution is too broad of a subject for anyone to say whether it, as a whole, is true or purely theoretical.
Cell evolution, micro-evolution, plant evolution and all those other types of evolutions which I have forgotten about after Biology class we have observed are found to be true. There can't really be any dispute about that. I believe evolution is true, except for the parts of evolution that propose the idea of how Mankind came to earth (saying how we evolved from little cells to monkeys to humans).
[center]"Only as an elective in the social studies field, not science."
Freedom of knowlege. If you want, you should be allowed to know about anything.[/center]
Well uh basically what evolution teachest us is that we evoled from rocks. now thats just stupid.
As a social studies main course entitled "World Religions."
religion should be taught with geography
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Nov 11 2005, 06:12 AM)
Well uh basically what evolution teachest us is that we evoled from rocks. now thats just stupid.
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Oh and yours? Evolved from the Thin air? When god created us in 7 days? Wow, Thats Genius, Makes A lot of sense.
Neiji, you are what you just stated in the second sentence of post #7. Not gonna say it because it will be taken as a flame.
Religion is also a theory. People believe it, and some don't. Does it make it true? NOPE!
Evolution... People believe it, some don't. Is it fact? NOPE!
The person who said this comparison above was completely right while you tried to play it off as he wasn't and changed it to some gay-ass piece of wood comment. If its thought to be true, but hasn't been proven, it is still only a theory!
I put that it shouldn't be put in school at all. Seperation of state and religion. Public schools are part of the state. No if its private school, fine let them do what they want. but Public schools are where we are forced to go. I don't want to learn about some false god that people believe in to give meaning to their lives. And some fortune-cookie prophet that spits a few quotes out, writes a book and is then considered a martyar. Hell, that would make Tommy Lee a martyar.
I don't care if you wear clothes because it is your religion, or pray over your food at lunch because it is your religion, as long as it doesn't affect me. Having to learn it is affecting me.
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When god created us in 7 days
Oh don't forget... "God" took the day off on Sunday. Lazy ass!
I marked the social studies thing, but I should have chosen "other". Religion should be taught in theology class. Simple as that. Intelligent design is a thinly designed religious position, not a scientific theory. It makes its conclusions based on the Bible, and then looks for evidence to support their conclusion, using confirmation bias often and without discrimination. This is not what science is about. The Institue of Creation Reasearch, for example, has made a statment saying that the Bible is the absolute truth, regardless of the evidence. This is tantamount to sceintists announcing that The Origin of Species
is dogma, absolute truth, regardless of evidence.
Oh, and Kow, Things tend to get "chaotic" (this is a gross simplification of entropy) according the Second Law of Thermodynamics, however, this is true only in a closed system. The Earth, and animals, are not closed systems.
I think kids should be able to choose wether to learn or not to learn religion. I think christianity is crap but a lot of people believe it and atheists will never be able to convince christians to understand that they are wrong as well as the cristians will never convince the atheists to believe in god. It's this way with all the religions. A bad thing is that some parents don't give their children a chance to decide wether to go to religious school or to a normal school, to believe or not to believe. That is really stupid.
Believing in a divine power is more realistic to me than evolving from rocks. and God didnt create the world from thin air. He created it from nothing

The seperation from church and state in the constitution is only for laws. So if the public school system were to start mentioning about higher powers creating earth etc.. then they could if they wanted to and it would not be unconstitutional. IT MUST BE A LAW in order to be unconstitutional. And its not against the law to not go to school.
*It must be a federal law.
I voted that it should be an elective, so that if you want to learn more than just the weekly preach or sunday school, you can. I think that world religion should be the elective though, not just Catholic, Christian, Hindu, etc. because then it would cover more religions. Also, key word is ELECTIVE (e·lec·tive (-lktv) adj.
1.Of or relating to a selection by vote. 2.Filled or obtained by election: elective office.3.Having the power or authority to elect; electoral. 4.Permitting or involving a choice; optional: elective surgery.).
I encourage to make it work like a history class, and to make kids our age to it. But it HAS to cover all the popular religions, even including the ones that have died out.
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The seperation from church and state in the constitution is only for laws. So if the public school system were to start mentioning about higher powers creating earth etc.. then they could if they wanted to and it would not be unconstitutional. IT MUST BE A LAW in order to be unconstitutional. And its not against the law to not go to school.
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..Where are you getting your information?
The separation of
church and
state have nothing to do with laws. It means any tax funded institution (ie school) cannot have any affilation with a church and/or religion. Anything that is sponsered through the government cannot promote religion nor church ideas; however, under the same amendment, they cannot attack it.
Note to sie sayuka:
Evolution never states that we evolved from rocks, rocks are not a livning organism, evolution states that over time, animals adapted to their environments and those that had adaptations (mutations really) suitable for survival would live, and those that didn't wouldn't. Where is the "bullcrap" in that? Its been proven in labs in terms of microevolution, and we have extensive fossil evidence that animals evolved.