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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-21 at 01:57:23

To that quote right there, those are just people who claim to follow a religion, people who actually follow a religion are mortally strong, if they are not then they do not follow their religion or do so poorly.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-21 at 02:47:11

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This is not always correct. People can be very, very religious and still be complete jerks. Nowadays, they aren't taught together.

Which brings me to another point. Morals can be taught without religion. Teaching a religion without morals is useless.

yes people with religion can be jerks. but thats the person. religion does not affect a persons personality that much.

as me and millenium said you cannot teach religion without morals. you can however teach morals without religion.

im guessing youve never been to church. the pastor keeps on saying whats right and wrong.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-21 at 03:06:27

Everybody I know that goes to church says they don't listen. That's a great way to teach morals, eh? Scream them upon deaf ears....

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-21 at 15:35:51

QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Dec 21 2005, 03:06 AM)

Everybody I know that goes to church says they don't listen. That's a great way to teach morals, eh? Scream them upon deaf ears....
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Exactly. What are these great morals that only religion provide?

Don't kill, don't steal. Everyone knows this. You don't need to be religious to know those things are bad.

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religon is NOT related to science in ANY way

That's why I don't believe in it. If religion was true, it would be apart of the fundamental basics of science. Science is just a collection of a data. If you got something against science, never use the internet ever again.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2005-12-21 at 15:47:12

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Stop relating religion to science. It doesn't work that way. When you guys were comparing religion with science, you're basically comparing Starcraft with Counterstrike or Apples with Oranges or Math with History.

Yes you can relate Science/Evolution with creationism. But religion isn't about creationism; it's about teachings and morals. Stop getting the two confused.

Did I say I was confused? I said that stop getting science and religion all confused since people here try to prove religion by scientific means or saying religion is not a science. Im saying that Religion and science is a whole different thing and shall not be compared.

Of course religion is about creationism. Tell me any religion without a creationism story behind it.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2005-12-21 at 15:52:29

QUOTE(procuress @ Dec 21 2005, 03:47 PM)

Of course religion is about creationism. Tell me any religion without a creationism story behind it.

Let's see...

-Shinto
-Buddhism
-Taoism
-Satanism
-Deism
-Confucianism
-Spiritual Humanism

etc..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2005-12-21 at 16:06:59

Buddhism? I think there is a creation story in buddhism...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)RuFF on 2005-12-21 at 16:41:19

QUOTE(Euro @ Dec 21 2005, 12:23 AM)

Then don't post, case closed.
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Oh, you didn't have to remind me, did you? Besides, I'm merely only stating the truth.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-12-22 at 19:07:48

QUOTE(Soulshifter @ Dec 21 2005, 12:35 AM)

True, but not everyone is like that. Many people I know aren't like that, but I guess it depends where you live.

Most morals an be taught without religion, correct. But there are some that only religion teaches (such as to love one another, forgive each other, etc.)

QUOTE(procuress @ Dec 21 2005, 02:47 PM)

Did I say you did? Nah. I was just talking to those that were.

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Of course religion is about creationism. Tell me any religion without a creationism story behind it.
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I dont think you need to know creationism to be religious. It's not like God or the other gods would banish you to hell for knowing exactly how the world was created.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-12-22 at 19:54:15

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And to bring about the crusades which lead to a corruption in power which lead to the reformation which lead to many other wars.

A good deed indeed.

So, you're saying the people who created the Bible (ANNONYMOUS ANNONYMOUS) INTELTIONALLY wanted to start a war?
1. Where'd the divine power come from?
2. Bible = Teaching good messages. Ironic.
3. No. (This was a joke, plz don't focus on this and say u proved me wrong)

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-22 at 21:20:53

The Bible may mean good, but it's hardly followed anymore. This may just be my experience with it, so I could be wrong.

ADDITION:
The morals are hardly ever followed*

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-22 at 21:30:41

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The Bible may mean good, but it's hardly followed anymore. This may just be my experience with it, so I could be wrong.

ADDITION:
The morals are hardly ever followed*

you give too little credit in people. that may be like where you live but not where i or many other people live.

why do you think there are hundreds of missionaries going out into the world to help and teach the people of 3rd world countries. why do you think churches raise funds for the poor.

you cannot follow a religion without following its morals. some people may say they are christian but thier actions do not prove it.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-12-22 at 21:44:23

QUOTE(Neiji @ Dec 19 2005, 12:18 PM)

You know, if people of SeN could've proved the bible wrong, then couldn't scientists and all those nerds proved it wrong first? But no, it hasn't been proved wrong. So, no hoax.
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We are the nerds and scientists of tommorrow. TODAY!

Parts of the old testiment are just morallous stories. But the new testiment actually happen, maybe not the miricle parts. Think of Jesus as David Blaine -2000 years.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-22 at 21:59:32

david blane = matrix haxxor >.>

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-22 at 21:59:33

QUOTE(Neiji @ Dec 19 2005, 12:18 PM)

Maybe scientists already know the truth and that they just don't want to tell people that all they've been doing is praying every night to the nothing. The bible and God are symbols of hope and people honor it because it "helps" them stay alive and such... People rely on it to keep themselves motivated and on the right course. For all we know The Bible is like Harry Potter and was a best selling book back then

! No one knows(not necessarily) and no one will(not necessarily) if God/Satan exists unless of course God/Satan actually set foot on Earth and showed people of their "powers" and such. Bible = FaKe!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-22 at 22:01:29

well God did but people killed him. Satan is here now (think bush and his miracles in the elections)

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-23 at 01:47:56

Haha. Bush... the anti-christ? A person named "God/Jesus"(whatever...never read the bible) did set foot on the Earth but he was killed by the Jews because of his way of life. Soo... basically... God/Jesus thought of a religion like Buddha and preached it to the world but was stoned by the Jews because they were sick of hearing it(no offense towards Jews)! That's my opinion. Im probably missing something here but I wouldnt know cuz I havent read the "good" book so prove me if Im wrong

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-23 at 02:50:29

you are wrong. the jews killed Jesus because they did not believe he was the massiah(savior) the old testimate states the the massiah will bring them to freedom. since pakistan was under roman rule at the time the jews thought that Jesus would free them from the Romans. he did free them but not from the Romans. he freed them from their sins.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-23 at 03:38:11

QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Dec 23 2005, 02:50 AM)

Thats what I wanted to know. My opinion still stands that the bible is fake

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-23 at 06:40:13

And you deserve to be shot for making yet another, pointless farking thread.

Oppinionated threads = shiz != Serious Discussion.

Get it whitie?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by ViolentMoose on 2005-12-23 at 08:39:28

QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 23 2005, 01:47 AM)

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You my friend are an IDIOT!!!,JEWS did not kill Jesus the romans did.
Jesus manipulated the romans to kill him, he was given a chance to speak and defend himself to be freed but he doesent and says something (dunno whole words forgot)
so the romans crusify him. Jesus IN fact was a jew christianity really wasnt a religon till a bit afterwards.
And That shows that God sent his Son to be sacrifised FOR ALL of us to have a chance to go to HEAVEN instead of Hell.
And we even have a recorded document of this about Jesus promising to destroy the temple or w/e in 1 day (i think) which in FACT happened. Right when jesus died a little bit after his death the tample fell from a earthquake
Do you know the rules for a sacrifis? when jesus sacrifised for our sins the a law happened he was ressurected on easter day. so you know easter is named for Jesus's death day.

QUOTE(Kellimoose @ Dec 23 2005, 06:40 AM)

And you deserve to be shot for making yet another, pointless farking thread.

Oppinionated threads = shiz != Serious Discussion.

Get it whitie?
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SHut yp kellimus your a stupid shiz nit, no 1 likes you in seriouse discussion you flame tomuch and spam

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-23 at 16:41:38

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SHut yp kellimus your a stupid shiz nit, no 1 likes you in seriouse discussion you flame tomuch and spam

A couple things.
a. No one likes you either so stfu and take your place.
b. grammer/spelling much?
c. that was a flame.
d. You flame too and used to spam a lot.

Guys I believe that god is fake and unless you have evidence, don't try to convert me. Also violent, show us where this "document" about jesus is.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-23 at 17:31:28

QUOTE(ViolentMoose @ Dec 23 2005, 06:39 AM)

Hmm.. Nice assumptions with no proof.

And thanks for flaming me

Great job at being a Trendwhore, too

And who is the one that flames? I don't flame. I subtly insult. There is a difference you whitie. I'm a better "Serious Discussioner" than you are by far. Your posts consist of spam, flame, flame, spam, spam spam, useless assumption, spam, spam, spam.

Mine? I just tell it how it is. I'm blunt.

You farking whitie.

QUOTE(Euro @ Dec 23 2005, 02:41 PM)

Couldn't have said the ABCs better myself Euro

And you can't prove the existance of God, because it's a feeling inside people.

For example: Over the weekend, I got arrested. The whole time they were searching my car, I was asking god to make it so they couldn't find my ounce of Chronic (I had a scale in my car. That = Distributing = many years in prison) They didn't find it, and the drawstring to my bag was haning out of my hiding spot (I thank god for that)

So yeah. I believe in God now, because of that. I'm not trying to make anyone believe in him, because you have to find him yourself.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-12-23 at 17:34:40

Evidence is not so important if you can make connections. Why would you beleive in this God? He has done nothing for you, has he? I am an Athiest, yet my parents brought me up teaching me good morals. Never steal, never smoke, don't do drugs, etc. I have a clean record, and yet I am an Athiest. I was never taught more than Noah's Ark bout religion, and I don't feel a missing hole or anything.

What I'm trying to get at is this: I bet you that your parents or some other influence taught you religion. Why on earth would you beleive in something that has no evidence besides a book (let's all go worship Harry Potter!)? Because you were taught to.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-23 at 17:35:13

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Couldn't have said the ABCs better myself Euro biggrin.gif

also... bad example kelli lol

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