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If god proved he existed through anyway in which the evidence cannot be denied, I will change from an athiest to whatever the hell it is that will allow me to get into heaven.

Of course, this is assuming this comes to be true. Which... in my blind faith in science, it won't.

life is just one big accident waiting to happen



every one will eventuially die, but all we're doing by living is delaying our iminent death

LOL you guys wannna know how great God is guess what another one of my freinds is going to die tonite from lukimia and not expected to like through the night gee wiz thanks god but wait its not over yet i actually have another freind who is extrealy ill is it just me or am i picking the wrong freinds?

"So you are saying that we could have been created by a huge hoard of flying pink elephants?"
Pointless question.
Supposing we are... what of it? And anyways, his statement only implied that it could be possible, though he might not have thought of it anyway.

"We know for a fact god did not create the bible..."
Yes, just as I know for a fac tthat there are other humans, and that I'm not the only human in existance, just as I know for a fact that I'm not actualy a test-gene-mixing-subject for pink invisible elves that send optic, touch, and other types of information into my processing center(brain) to see how I learn and react to such things. Don't say 'we know for a fact' untill you've managed to 'know for a fact' anything without anyone being able to come up with some kinda of possibility for its non-truthfulness.

"You just said we become nothing when we die..."
What my gues sis, when he said that we 'know' we will no longer exist, that we know it on a practical level; the chance of being one of the very few people who do get to 'pass on' is low enough to believe that you won't be one, just as I wouldn't expect to win the lottery.

"Post your theory and prove it. In the end, all of our theorys are basically unprovable (with the exception of those disproved by science, which this one cannot). You ask the impossible. So does that mean that my theory is false? No. It isn't "Innocent", only "Not Guilty". Though some criminals are "Not Guilty", that does not make them "Innocent". Though some innocent people are "Not Guilty", that does not mean that they are guilty."
Actualy, to be truthful, I don't see how any religion can be disproved, for above stated reasons.

"f god proved he existed through anyway in which the evidence cannot be denied, I will change from an athiest to whatever the hell it is that will allow me to get into heaven.

Of course, this is assuming this comes to be true. Which... in my blind faith in science, it won't."
Exactly the same as in my case. I don't say God doesn't exist; just that I don't currently believe he does, because I have little to no evidence of his existance.

"Ask him when you see him."
That is, of course, supposing he's exactly as you suppose, and willing to show himself to those who believed in him. As I said, there's soooo many other possibilities, and the 'truth' as we call it may actualy be similar to Christianity... except that God is actualy an , and so he created so many things that cause pain(supposing he exists, I agree with the idea of pain, but not of things that cause dozens upon dozens times the amount of pain that I could stand, that seem to strike apparently random people).

"You have faith in something that's not logical? Would you believe me if I asked you take take the existence of square circles entirely by faith?"
No, for belief in that, there would need to be a few hundred people that believe in it, without anyone knowing why those few hundred people originaly started believing, and then there needs to be a lot of torture and killing incidents to attempt to convince others of its existance, and eventualy for it to be taken more 'humanely' and instead argued about, not to mention changing from the belief of square circles to the belief in 1 dimensional cubes that bring peace and harmony to all.

"Lol... such as? Sex isn't a sin within marriage... weed is probably only a sin due to breaking a higher authorities law... um what else?"
So, does God say, 'Screw homosexuals, since in North America they can't get married, and I don't give a damn if it's not their fault for not being married?'.
Wow, I never knew God was so prejudiced.

"First off, how could something explode if there is no time? How can something happen without time existing? Object X moves Y meters over Z seconds. You need time otherwise there isn't movement. So how is a dot exploding, let alone, this explosion creating time logical? How can an atom exist if electrons aren't moving? If electrons aren't moving, how can things react? Even if it was all possible, what the hell was this dot doing before it exploded? Nothing obviously, because there is no time! Ugh... How the do people think of these things. "

I heard one person say that the reason this whole time-problem doesn't apply to God is because he's 'omnipotent'... So, who's to say the universe isn't omnipotent?
Also, the Big Bang isn't a necesary part of believing in a lack of God.
I myself don't believe in it, because that little dot from which the explosion came would have been a universe in and of itself, and so the Bing Bang, which supposedly explains the start of the universe, really isn't the start of the universe.

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Yeah, it's better to believe what you want to believe rather than to believe what the objective reality is. Jump to your desired conclusion, and don't bother seeking alternate explainations.

Colds and flu? It's the work of demons, not some microscopic organism known as "germs," like those blasphemous atheistic bastards that call themseleves "scientist" keep rationalizing.

I read in a book one time, that some doctor prescribed Tylenol to a seven year old girl, but she died anyway. What a big blow to scientist who think antibiotics can treat sicknesses. Then some a-hole in some forum explains to me that antibiotics don't work when viruses are present, and I was like WTF!? Antibiotics can cure colds, but they don't work when viruses are present? Yall scientist contradict each other. Always trying to ascertain the true causes of things rather than just jumping to a conclusion.

God made Creation perfect in the beginging before sin entered the world. If it wasn't for sin, things like lukima wouldn't exist. But, I can understand why you would be angry at God. I think it is alright to be angry at God, just as long as it doesn't become a poison. I think if you let Him know how you feel then eventually you will feel better. Although I think He knows how you feel, He wants you to tell Him how you feel.

Hmmm... This picture looks fake. The picture is located here: and if you go to http://users.rcn.com/rostmd/ you will see that the picture is located on a website that seems to be dedicated to starcraft

No one deserves to die at the age 16

Yeah, back then, when the world was perfect, lions ate cabbage and tofu instead of slaughtering prey. Maybe the molars of the lions evolved into carnivorous incisors after the fall of Adam and Eve. Hm, I wonder why we have no fossils of a lion with all molars. Those evil scientist must be hiding something... What about dinosours? They all had sharp teeth for tearing flesh, not for eating plants.

God created man in his image, and then damns them for being less that what he created them to be. God knew that Adam that would take the fruit from the tree when he created him (being the omniscient all-knowing entity that he is). Now after he sets up a conspiracy, like a police officer intentionally planting cocaine in a person's car to frame him, God can now be blameless for any atrocities he inflicts on man.


That's because it is. The point I was trying to convey was the special pleading fallacy.

Actually lots of people deserve to die b4 16. A large percentage of the human race, all the jerks and bullies and people who call others gay, fags, homos all that stuff they deserve to die, it's because of them that there is no peace. + I'm agnostic and I'm pretty sure there is no god.

we need more people to die becuz the earth is slowly getting WAY TOO OVERPOPULATED AND THERE WILL BE TOO MANY FOOD SHORTAGES AND THE APOCALPSE WILL OCCUR

I beleive the point of the human race is to be fruitful, follow human nature, to have fun, and many more things.

A message to the Bible Bashers out there (I mean the people who take the Bible as literal fact), the entire New Testament was a political work by the Romans!

Here's a rundown:
Emperor Constantine realised that the fighting between early Christians and the dominant pagan religions of the time had to be stopped.
He made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire.
Early Christians and Romans, including Constantine, looked at about 80 gospels and picked some of them that suited their political agenda of making Christianity an instantly acceptable religion to the undecided of Rome.
The issue of whether Jesus was the Son of God was actually debated and voted on in a 'Shall we say he was a divine being or what?' kind of way, and was passed only marginally - most early Christians did not believe that Jesus was the Son of God.

The gospels contained in the Bible are only a small proportion of the original 80, and they are pretty much the only ones that refer to Jesus as the Son of God. The rest describe him as an ordinary man whose teachings appealed to many. Among the forgotten gospels is the gospel according to Mary Magdalene, of all people (not a prostitute as the carefully edited Bible says - some claim that she was Jesus' mistress or even his wife).

Well, Im muslim anyways, but boy did the Romans change Christianity alot. Anyways, the point of life is to find out what the point of life is . A bit of a loop, no?

That's a good question. I once heard we were created to glorify God.

I personally find existenialism(which this thread is) quite pointless. You could debate and ponder for the rest of your life about "the deeper meaning" of things and you will still be no further than you were the day you started.

Like christianity and all religons, I find that they almost teach against "this world". In most there is some heaven or other afterlife place thats better than this one. Its annoying quite frankly because it seems that in the dawn of these religons the general thought was "this life may be horrible, but just wait long enough and you'll have eternal happiness".

Simply put the point of the human race is just to live. Dont hold back, dont live in fear, do all that you choose to do and enjoy life period.



Who the hell are you to say who deserves to die and who doesnt ? You're probaly not even 18 yet, you're still technically a child so you've seen only from a limited view point of the world so you have no right to say who needs to die. Guess what people have different views of the world some people in doing so call others gay ect. another person may show their disagreement in another way. The point is just because you dont like a particular type of person for their view point does not give you any justification to say "they deserve to die".

You can be 14 years old and know much about the world, while someone else could be 50 years old and know very little about this world.

Thats not even the point, the fact is that a child no matter how bright can only know so much about the world. No human has any right to say who "deserves" death, especially for a child who has more than likely not experieced a death so does not full understand its implications.

An interesting comment.

We are all alive, and it's pretty certain that we will all eventually die. However the things we do won't be un-done when we die.

So, the more you accomplish, the more you may be remembered for what you did.

Create something, or discover something that nobody else knows, and teach everyone about it, the effect you have may last forever.

"What's the point?"
If you belive a god created man, i don't know what god's plan was, so i can't really say.
Otherwise I may suggest that you invent something, or build something, or be productive in some other way. The more advanced 'mankind' becomes, the closer to a 'ture' answer we get.

Any jerk/bully or whathaveyou has some sort of reason for acting the way they do. Rather than kill them, you could try to teach them the correct way. (To the best of your knowledge) And to go with that, you may not know all the facts, you might be the wrong one. And to go with that, you probably don't have enough information to decide if there is or is not a god. (nobody does yet, thats why i suggest advancement)

I would like to hear comments about my ideas.

Life is a strange thing that us, humains cannot understand. There is alot of non sence things that we make. We work hard in our life to make it better, but we always end up dying, whats the point? Huh? Tell me (I know this is what the topic was made for)!! So really don't ask, life has just no point, or sence, it just there for the fun of it. Maybe one day we will find out, but then, we probobly wont be there anymore. So don't waist time thinking about it, you will never find out. Little tip: Pray alot and maybe one day god will tell you, I don't but maybe you could and then tell me. In my opinion, Life=Living, thats all!

Prehaps you could help find out. You can't expect other people to do all the work for you and then tell you the results.