Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-05-15 at 10:13:50
Double poster... you bumped a new page and your avatar is giving me photosensitive seizure.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-05-15 at 13:36:45
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Liberalism is a mental disorder. <-- Not flaming no 1 , its a fact!
If liberalism is a mental disorder, then the retarded make up the geniuses of this country.
QUOTE(LuPiN(F) @ May 14 2005, 06:47 PM)
and if everyone didnt have war, then our society would be mest up even more
1.) we would have nothing to talk about
2.) we would have no excitement in our lives
3.) we would all be fat, overweight people eating
4.) and there would be no exiciting story's to tell
like vietnam. civil war. Revolution war. etc.etc.
history is a good subject, only when you get a good teacher.
come some tearchs are ignorant. and I have all my reasons why tearchers should never ever get a raise.
"90% of all teachers are liberals"
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You say ghandi said that? well what about ghandi's Salt march, eh? agaisnt the british, he stood up for what was right, and why cant we? is he special or sumthin? i dont get it. and yes , i think if we didnt have technology our lives would be much better, and healthier, if you think about it, what happens if some how a bug or virus was planted into every tehcnology place, then what?, what if your computer crash's what would u do? If im going to die, then im going to die, and fortunaly i believe in God, Jesus christ, Holy spirit, im a christian proud to be one, and theres not 1 fuker who's gonna change my mind.
Opinion:
War: is bad, and sad and it hurts lots of people, but yet, to do good, you got to do bad,
Example:
Your girlfriend: Am i fat?
You: No
*see in that predicament, you helped someone have a good day.*
Now lets try the "Right way"
Example:
Your girlfriend: Am i fat?
You: Yes
Your girlfriend: *dumps you*
*see thats the right way, and yet you do no good*
I dont like war, but if its for a reason then ill support it. like if USA just bombs Britain for no reason, just for the hell of it, then i wouldnt support it, and id hate it vary much. But this war, is for a reason, is for a right, and is helping others.
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1.) we would have nothing to talk about
2.) we would have no excitement in our lives
3.) we would all be fat, overweight people eating
4.) and there would be no exiciting story's to tell
like vietnam. civil war. Revolution war. etc.etc.
history is a good subject, only when you get a good teacher.
come some tearchs are ignorant. and I have all my reasons why tearchers should never ever get a raise.
"90% of all teachers are liberals"
ADDITION:
You say ghandi said that? well what about ghandi's Salt march, eh? agaisnt the british, he stood up for what was right, and why cant we? is he special or sumthin? i dont get it. and yes , i think if we didnt have technology our lives would be much better, and healthier, if you think about it, what happens if some how a bug or virus was planted into every tehcnology place, then what?, what if your computer crash's what would u do? If im going to die, then im going to die, and fortunaly i believe in God, Jesus christ, Holy spirit, im a christian proud to be one, and theres not 1 fuker who's gonna change my mind.
Opinion:
War: is bad, and sad and it hurts lots of people, but yet, to do good, you got to do bad,
Example:
Your girlfriend: Am i fat?
You: No
*see in that predicament, you helped someone have a good day.*
Now lets try the "Right way"
Example:
Your girlfriend: Am i fat?
You: Yes
Your girlfriend: *dumps you*
*see thats the right way, and yet you do no good*
I dont like war, but if its for a reason then ill support it. like if USA just bombs Britain for no reason, just for the hell of it, then i wouldnt support it, and id hate it vary much. But this war, is for a reason, is for a right, and is helping others.
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1) Nothing to talk about? Is war all that you ever think about?
2) I don't need "excitement" to have a good time. If I did, then bungie jumping or something equally "extreme" would do good enough, if not more.
3) I'm sure. So, are you saying that everyone that's not fat and overweight has participated in war? I doubt it.
4) No exciting stories to tell? As I said before, I can live without this much excitement. Happines is good enough for me.
5) Out of all the things for you to point out, you pretty much just repeated the same one which is more opinion then fact anyways, and one that isn't true at all, when you could have pointed out that war is when technology booms.
Ghandi stood up for what was right. But did he do it by getting an assault rifle and killing anyone that opposed him with it?
How likely is it that a virus will be put in every computer on Earth? Not very likely at all.
And I don't think we give a crap if you're Christian or not.
Some of us don't need a superior figure to not fear death.
If I got a girlfriend and she dumped me for being honest, I'd be more upset over the fact that I was the boyfriend of such an either ego-pumped freak that wants others to kiss her ass by telling her she's better then she is, or a dellusional, overly emotional freak.
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History is NOT a good subject, all you learn is the same mistakes being repeated over and over again.
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If history teaches us anything, it's that we never learn from history.
Something like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-05-15 at 14:00:57
So your excitement is certainly more important then the lives of innocents, wives, children, and even the men you fight? That's worse then saying you're better then the Arabs, you're saying your amusement is better then thousands of lives. Well, war is similiar to liking junk food. You can't take something out of your nature, (liking the burger, getting angry from opposing opinion), but you can stop the act, (eating it, killing them). But, there's simply too many people for everyone to think that. Well, it's a good thing that the sun's going to explode in 6 billion years, it's a bad thing that we might not all be here by then.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-05-15 at 14:22:13
Ok, I think he gets the point that we don't like him now. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-05-15 at 20:08:14
I just got back from Palm Desert, California. Damn it feels good to have the freedom to travel where I like, when I like.
The average American is more generous, and more forgiving then the average European ("They just Don't Get It" book). Something to be proud of.
Im disgusted in you all, some of you wish we are to be killed off by the sun blowing up, others are insulting America, and alot of you are insulting each other. Wait a tic, I thought this was a mature discussion....
Theotrical - You say that we think Arabs are lesser people on many posts. Getting real tired of that. All people are equal, thats what i think and Lupin(F) probably. I can't believe you would let the suffering of Iraqi civilians go on by a Dictator just becuase he didn't pose a threat to America.... What? Do you think they are lesser beings? Are they not allowed to be able to be free? Are there curtian conditions that have to be met in order for America to help them? Are Westerners only allowed to be free?
Why we pick Iraq to be freed? People who were being oppressed and we could go in a whoop Saddam's ass with ease. I don't want to hear about any oil crap becuase the price of gas is still rising after a couple years of being in Iraq, until our gas prices decrease that arguement is unfacter-able.
Liberal IS a mental disorder, read the book "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" which proves, with scientific FACT that the above statement is true. I thought that statement went over the top, but then I read the book and changed my mind. Its a true statement.
And the general public enjoy seeing war, rape, gun fights, murders, missing people, and general crime on the news. Its a sick fact, but true. thats what Lupin(F) was thinking, I think.
History is a great subject. Some of the best military manuevers that were used in the past (Rome, Nazis), are still used today by our Armies. So if history is a bad subject. Then obviously you don't care what so ever on the history of your country, or the shaping of the world? or the eygptions? or romans? or the Greeks? or the Persians? or the Hans? Obviously you don't care about the many ages, such has the Renasiannce, Age of Exploration, the Industerial age, the two Agricultural Revolutions. Such much to learn from. AND YES, some topics we still haven't learned at all from.
Last thing..... Don't hate the player (Lupin(F)), hate the game (discussion).
The average American is more generous, and more forgiving then the average European ("They just Don't Get It" book). Something to be proud of.
Im disgusted in you all, some of you wish we are to be killed off by the sun blowing up, others are insulting America, and alot of you are insulting each other. Wait a tic, I thought this was a mature discussion....
Theotrical - You say that we think Arabs are lesser people on many posts. Getting real tired of that. All people are equal, thats what i think and Lupin(F) probably. I can't believe you would let the suffering of Iraqi civilians go on by a Dictator just becuase he didn't pose a threat to America.... What? Do you think they are lesser beings? Are they not allowed to be able to be free? Are there curtian conditions that have to be met in order for America to help them? Are Westerners only allowed to be free?
Why we pick Iraq to be freed? People who were being oppressed and we could go in a whoop Saddam's ass with ease. I don't want to hear about any oil crap becuase the price of gas is still rising after a couple years of being in Iraq, until our gas prices decrease that arguement is unfacter-able.
Liberal IS a mental disorder, read the book "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" which proves, with scientific FACT that the above statement is true. I thought that statement went over the top, but then I read the book and changed my mind. Its a true statement.
And the general public enjoy seeing war, rape, gun fights, murders, missing people, and general crime on the news. Its a sick fact, but true. thats what Lupin(F) was thinking, I think.
History is a great subject. Some of the best military manuevers that were used in the past (Rome, Nazis), are still used today by our Armies. So if history is a bad subject. Then obviously you don't care what so ever on the history of your country, or the shaping of the world? or the eygptions? or romans? or the Greeks? or the Persians? or the Hans? Obviously you don't care about the many ages, such has the Renasiannce, Age of Exploration, the Industerial age, the two Agricultural Revolutions. Such much to learn from. AND YES, some topics we still haven't learned at all from.
Last thing..... Don't hate the player (Lupin(F)), hate the game (discussion).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-05-15 at 21:32:36
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The average American is more generous, and more forgiving then the average European ("They just Don't Get It" book). Something to be proud of.
Pride because of someone else's actions, when they regard you in no way?
I'm only proud of things that are of my doing, atleast to some extent.
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Im disgusted in you all, some of you wish we are to be killed off by the sun blowing up, others are insulting America, and alot of you are insulting each other. Wait a tic, I thought this was a mature discussion....
Insulting each other? Give me enough examples of insulting each other that's out of place enough to make it immature.
And what's wrong with wishing that humans no longer existed?
You know what disgusts me more?
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And the general public enjoy seeing war, rape, gun fights, murders, missing people, and general crime on the news. Its a sick fact, but true. thats what Lupin(F) was thinking, I think.
The fact that you were correct when you said that.
Humans seem to consider themselves inherantly better then other lifeforms—when was the last time you saw someone kill some innocent arthoropod for no reason?
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You say that we think Arabs are lesser people on many posts. Getting real tired of that. All people are equal, thats what i think and Lupin(F) probably. I can't believe you would let the suffering of Iraqi civilians go on by a Dictator just becuase he didn't pose a threat to America....
He's not saying that they're lesser. It'd be more truthful to say that he's saying we're harming them more then we're helping them. It's the war that he dislikes, and America, as I understand it, not the Arabs. Quote him 'saying' that Arabs are lesser.
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Why we pick Iraq to be freed? People who were being oppressed and we could go in a whoop Saddam's ass with ease. I don't want to hear about any oil crap becuase the price of gas is still rising after a couple years of being in Iraq, until our gas prices decrease that arguement is unfacter-able.
And how would having someone in Iraq suddenly make oil prices suddenly go down?
It wouldn't. Don't say that until an action has effect, that the effect cannot be the reason behind the action. That's just pure stupid.
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Liberal IS a mental disorder, read the book "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" which proves, with scientific FACT that the above statement is true. I thought that statement went over the top, but then I read the book and changed my mind. Its a true statement.
Well, even supposing that you're telling the truth about it having "proof" of it being a mental disorder, I would like proof that mental disorders are a necesarily bad thing.
And if you're going to say that mental disorders are not inherantly bad, then it shouldn't be mentioned that Liberalism is one anyways, since it means nothing in that case.
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History is a great subject. Some of the best military manuevers that were used in the past (Rome, Nazis), are still used today by our Armies. So if history is a bad subject. Then obviously you don't care what so ever on the history of your country, or the shaping of the world? or the eygptions? or romans? or the Greeks? or the Persians? or the Hans? Obviously you don't care about the many ages, such has the Renasiannce, Age of Exploration, the Industerial age, the two Agricultural Revolutions. Such much to learn from. AND YES, some topics we still haven't learned at all from.
I never said it's not a great subject.
Truthfully, though, I don't care much about the history of the U.S.
If I had reason to, I would study it for information, but I don't have use for it as it is.
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Last thing..... Don't hate the player (Lupin(F)), hate the game (discussion).
Last thing..... Don't hate the players (us), hate the game (discussion).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-05-15 at 22:24:05
QUOTE(Theoretical Human @ May 2 2005, 08:49 PM)
STARS, I believe this describes you pretty well. After your statement about Bush getting the most votes was proven irrelevant and out of context, you POSTED IT AGAIN, claiming that he was "just making excuses". Furthermore, you give us a question you know the answer to, most likely for the purpose of twisting it around later, "Oh yeah, then why don't you support bush, he's getting those terrorists! You obviously think it's right!". Sorry, but you're a tad predictable. The Senate won't allow it? The house won't allow it? Congress won't allow it? I'm pretty sure there's a Republican majority in all of those. Furthermore, they barely even read the "Patriot Act", that's how it passed so easily, NO ONE READ IT! Lastly, with all the cheap scare tactics of the administration and their dull followers twisting around questions, everyone would be afraid not to vote against it. Besides, they're all white, rich, and Republican up there, it's not like they'd be affected.
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shows him link to a website that supposidly describes me. I read it and that ain't cool, why must you be childish? stay on the topic boy.
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Obviously you consider arab civilian lives to be worth less than American lives, or you wouldn't be able to hold your position so comfortably. Which makes you a racist. [right][snapback]200217[/snapback][/right]
One example, Im talking about people here thinking I think Arabic Civilians are lesser beings, never argued that they SAID that arabic civs are lesser people.
I was stating the reasons for going into and why we picked Iraq. Many people have said we went in for oil. I am saying it has been years that we have been in Iraq, if we have really invaded for their Oil (crude oil to be specific). Then why hasn't gas prices decreased? Crude Oil can be used to create motor gasoline and other products. If we went in to get their oil, then obviously gas prices would decrease......strandely enough, they are increasing.
I am saying you CANNOT say we went in for Oil becuase A. You have no proof of that, and B. Gas prices are increasing not decreasing.
Your cause and effect theory doesn't work on every topic
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-05-16 at 00:12:49
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shows him link to a website that supposidly describes me. I read it and that ain't cool, why must you be childish? stay on the topic boy.
Well, it does seem to describe you. The things you say seem to just repeat each other over and over. I don't consider it to be "insulting" to call a retard a retard, as long as it isn't unnecsarily repeated.
But then, that means that my whole comment is completely pointless and stupid, because anything that's opinion could be said to be true, so I'll go fix when I'm done posting this post.
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I was stating the reasons for going into and why we picked Iraq. Many people have said we went in for oil. I am saying it has been years that we have been in Iraq, if we have really invaded for their Oil (crude oil to be specific). Then why hasn't gas prices decreased? Crude Oil can be used to create motor gasoline and other products. If we went in to get their oil, then obviously gas prices would decrease......strandely enough, they are increasing.
A- Demand increase higher then supply increase?
B- Greed?
C- Why would we necesarily gain the moment we're in there?
You're the one using cause and effect logic.
Well, I should say, no-effect, no-cause logic, I suppose.
I believe that that would be called "inductive logic".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-05-16 at 16:31:42
S.T.A.R.S., you have the Republican elephant as your avatar stating "backed by popular demand", that alone is a magnet for criticism.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by kirby_star on 2005-05-16 at 23:08:40
QUOTE(S.T.A.R.S-Chris @ May 12 2005, 10:52 PM)
I use to be anti-war, at least wars for no reason. But based on the pass few events over the years and many readings, including "All Quite on the Western Front" and "They just Don't Get It". And listening intently in my history class that I concluded that war is human nature. A man can live with out voilence but men cannot. For alot of reasons we have been fighting since we first developed tools.
Humans naturally hate each other for what ever reasons each person has. Thats why there are bullies in Schools. Football (controled voilence) Rugby(same as football). Riots, crime. Kung Fu. Violent movies and games. paintballing, Air Softing. These are many examples that feed our hungry for violence. Most people are not violent people, but deep down inside EVERY ONE, there are emotions that can be triggered by these acts, some emotions happen when you have adrenilan pumpin in your veins. Adrenalin stimulates autonomic nerve action, which isn't an emotion, but adrenalin comes with the emotion you feel during that time of violence.
Thats why many men are in the military for long periods of time becuase they love the feel they get in combat. Thats also why when some are wounded, they want to go back to the fight, for both the felling they get in combat and for their comrades still in action.
Society today as pushed and shoved that war is bad and unacceptable. Which is entirely true. That is also why many veterans won't talk about thier experieces in war becuase, one its hard to talk about and two it is seen as unacceptable. Many veterans actually enjoy combat, but they won't talk about it because its unacceptable to enjoy war.
I base this on an article I read in school, that a vietnam veteran wrote, titled "Why Men love War". he is anti war and stuff so its not baised.
And one, its perfectly alright for ANY one to like war.
Me? I don't hate war, but I don't like it either. I believe in Nationalism.
and if some one threw a bomb in my house, one. if any family members died I would hunt down and kill the murders of them, and two. I would hunt down any one who knew they were murders and helped them unforcefully/willingly. No one focks with me. period.
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Humans naturally hate each other for what ever reasons each person has. Thats why there are bullies in Schools. Football (controled voilence) Rugby(same as football). Riots, crime. Kung Fu. Violent movies and games. paintballing, Air Softing. These are many examples that feed our hungry for violence. Most people are not violent people, but deep down inside EVERY ONE, there are emotions that can be triggered by these acts, some emotions happen when you have adrenilan pumpin in your veins. Adrenalin stimulates autonomic nerve action, which isn't an emotion, but adrenalin comes with the emotion you feel during that time of violence.
Thats why many men are in the military for long periods of time becuase they love the feel they get in combat. Thats also why when some are wounded, they want to go back to the fight, for both the felling they get in combat and for their comrades still in action.
Society today as pushed and shoved that war is bad and unacceptable. Which is entirely true. That is also why many veterans won't talk about thier experieces in war becuase, one its hard to talk about and two it is seen as unacceptable. Many veterans actually enjoy combat, but they won't talk about it because its unacceptable to enjoy war.
I base this on an article I read in school, that a vietnam veteran wrote, titled "Why Men love War". he is anti war and stuff so its not baised.
And one, its perfectly alright for ANY one to like war.
Me? I don't hate war, but I don't like it either. I believe in Nationalism.
and if some one threw a bomb in my house, one. if any family members died I would hunt down and kill the murders of them, and two. I would hunt down any one who knew they were murders and helped them unforcefully/willingly. No one focks with me. period.
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ha right, some people can live without war while few need war, I guess you are sorta right.
lol, must be extremely weird to like war lol, I mean I like war machines and stuff but don't like the "sport" itself I mean in videogames its fine and fun but not in real life lol.
See? you contradicted yourself then when you said about decreasing the populatioin thing lol,
Oh yeah, luny, I like your avatar but suggest you change it... it hurts people's eyes lol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-05-17 at 20:18:49
mmm when did I say decreasing the population? also, peace kills too, roughly 3,750 americans died on unprovoked attacks on us.